Legend of Korra: A Fantastic Finale With a Perfect Ending
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Just imagine Mako's ego. Two women he dated and both end up gay/bi for each other. That's gona leave a mark. hehehe.*
Poor Mako.
I do feel somewhat compelled to watched S3 and 4 now.
*: This is a joke JIC the overly sensitive people out there miss it.
Poor Mako.
I do feel somewhat compelled to watched S3 and 4 now.
*: This is a joke JIC the overly sensitive people out there miss it.
I love how they went the Pacific Rim direction at the end - subtle, poignant and open ended. Are they an item? I personally think so, but it's not explicitly stated or shown on the show. It is left up to the audience to decide the depth of the relationship. And while I personally see it as a sexual relationship (or, at the very least, a loving relationship that goes beyond friendship), I can respect others who say that I'm reading too much into it.
In some ways I see this as the exact opposite of the Mass Effect trilogy and LOST tv show endings; here, the ending makes me willing to gloss over most of the problems I've had with the show from day 1. I've been a fairly vocal critic of the show, particularly Season 1 and part of Season 2, but I think I'm going to look far more favourably on the show when I rewatch it in the future simply because the ending was pretty much perfect to me. I'm glad I stuck with it through thick and thin.
In some ways I see this as the exact opposite of the Mass Effect trilogy and LOST tv show endings; here, the ending makes me willing to gloss over most of the problems I've had with the show from day 1. I've been a fairly vocal critic of the show, particularly Season 1 and part of Season 2, but I think I'm going to look far more favourably on the show when I rewatch it in the future simply because the ending was pretty much perfect to me. I'm glad I stuck with it through thick and thin.
That Adam Poole guy goes by the pseudonym crazygameguy4ever on these here forums, and he's spent the past couple days vehemently refuting any possibility of romantic subtext between Korra and Asami (to say nothing of its assured certainty). It's really quite the sight to see. The level of denial fueling that sentiment is nearly laudable.Tanis said:
I admit, I'm torn on the final pairing. On the one hand, I hate that it reinforces the old "if a girl has masculine interests/tomboyish personality traits of course she's gay!" stereotype, and Korra and Asami fit the tired "manly girl and girly girl" roles.
On the other hand, it's awesome because we almost never see same-sex romance in the mainstream, and the two of them had one of the better developed relationships on the show (though that's not saying much. in both ATLA and Korra, the writers have fumbled at romance)
I think my reaction is a net positive though. I enjoyed the feelings of the ending, and my only real complaint was that Kuvira's plot got tied up a bit suddenly.
On the other hand, it's awesome because we almost never see same-sex romance in the mainstream, and the two of them had one of the better developed relationships on the show (though that's not saying much. in both ATLA and Korra, the writers have fumbled at romance)
I think my reaction is a net positive though. I enjoyed the feelings of the ending, and my only real complaint was that Kuvira's plot got tied up a bit suddenly.
Its been said numerous times that season 1 and 2 suffered a lot from production shenanigans on the part of Nick. Like many good franchises or stories Avatar The Last Airbender was lightning in a bottle. No way in hell you are going to top that. So you don't. If Avatar is a perfectly crafted fantasy epic for kids to call their Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings then Korra I choose to view as the creators going. "Let's see just how much we can get away with." When you go back over Korra the things they did start to add up and when I finished the final tally my jaw dropped because I literally could not believe the stones these guys had to do what they did. I'm even including that scene where Korra is poisoned which is the closest the series has come to horror since "The Puppetmaster" yet I find it creepier because its psychological horror. Needless to say I think once its out TLA and Korra will be one of those things that will just be cool to watch cover to cover.Tono Makt said:
My take on the Korrasami ending is that the creators certainly INTENDED for it to be a romantic ending. So the relationship is canon. But the build up to it is lacking. Writing letters and compliments on hair do not a relationship make. I've got a best friend I could talk to for hours. When he starts doing a random jig in the middle of a room, I have no problem going up there and dancing right by him. No other person, man or woman, in the world would I do that with. However, neither of us is gay. It's just what being best friends is about. Korra and Asami having a romantic relationship feels forced because there's been little build up and what little there has been is indistinguishable from close friendship.
I chalk it up as the creators doing their best within the restrictions set on them. After all of the bull shit Nickelodeon has forced on them for LoK's run, no fucking way were they going to get the greenlight for a lesbian romance in a mainstream kid's show. I don't hold that against them. I think that ending moment was beautiful. But it isn't all that it should be, and that's a shame.
The rest of the ending is great. Everybody has moments, General Iroh finally shows up again even if he is dreadfully underutilized, Hobo Guy shows up and is WONDERFULLY utilized, the animation, visuals, and sound were all wonderful. A great cap to a great series. The series isn't for everyone, but I can appreciate it. I don't know if its better than The Last Airbender, but I love it more. TLA always felt like rather standard Saturday cartoon fare. Stunningly executed, but still just standard. TLA aimed to be more thoughtful, more emotional. It didn't always work, but I appreciate the effort, and when it does work it shines like no other cartoon I can think of, except maybe for the episode "Code of Hero" in Beast Wars.
I chalk it up as the creators doing their best within the restrictions set on them. After all of the bull shit Nickelodeon has forced on them for LoK's run, no fucking way were they going to get the greenlight for a lesbian romance in a mainstream kid's show. I don't hold that against them. I think that ending moment was beautiful. But it isn't all that it should be, and that's a shame.
The rest of the ending is great. Everybody has moments, General Iroh finally shows up again even if he is dreadfully underutilized, Hobo Guy shows up and is WONDERFULLY utilized, the animation, visuals, and sound were all wonderful. A great cap to a great series. The series isn't for everyone, but I can appreciate it. I don't know if its better than The Last Airbender, but I love it more. TLA always felt like rather standard Saturday cartoon fare. Stunningly executed, but still just standard. TLA aimed to be more thoughtful, more emotional. It didn't always work, but I appreciate the effort, and when it does work it shines like no other cartoon I can think of, except maybe for the episode "Code of Hero" in Beast Wars.
While quite the bumpy ride I think Korra ended pretty strongly with these last two seasons.
I enjoyed it and I actually came to really like Korra as a character.
As for the Korra Asami thing being somewhat understated I'm going to be cynical and guess it's probably so subtle and understated because that's just how much they were able to get away with. Making an incredibly obvious mutual attraction between same sex characters was probably not allowed so they were forced to work with implications and such to build their romance.
That last scene clinches it for me though.
I enjoyed it and I actually came to really like Korra as a character.
As for the Korra Asami thing being somewhat understated I'm going to be cynical and guess it's probably so subtle and understated because that's just how much they were able to get away with. Making an incredibly obvious mutual attraction between same sex characters was probably not allowed so they were forced to work with implications and such to build their romance.
That last scene clinches it for me though.
This episode was atrocious. In fact most of the series sucks compared to the original. Most things they did to differentiate them failed miserably.
It's weird though, season one had a great start, season two had a great middle, and season 3 had a great end. Season 4 was mediocre at best but if you took the best parts of the first 3 and made 4 seasons out of that, you'd have an amazing series.
It's weird though, season one had a great start, season two had a great middle, and season 3 had a great end. Season 4 was mediocre at best but if you took the best parts of the first 3 and made 4 seasons out of that, you'd have an amazing series.
Have you actually watched the episode? That's really, -really- not what's going on.Ukomba said:I dont know, all the speculation just makes me think of this
Of course I have, and it's just not what I saw, sorry. Not just in the last episode but at any point during the 4 seasons.PrinceOfShapeir said:
That's what's really important too. I never saw any sort of build up to it in any previous episodes. Even if the producers came out tomorrow and said that was exactly what they intended I'd have a problem with it since it would have come out of left field. I started looking, there were never any shy glances, subtle flirting, blushes, any of show of attraction of any kind really. And not just with each other, neither of them showed any interest in any female character. To me they just looked like best friends, and Korra trying to console her after the sudden, violent loss of her father.
I know people love shipping, and that's fine I don't mean to rain on that. My wife still insists on shipping Zuko and Katara. (I even funded TSSSF
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See post above mine. But more importantly, good call on the MLP bit. I think the fan personalities that have been created for the two work well together, but still, clever pic.Ukomba said:
Very true. And the latest Equestria Girls Movie has the creators having a bit of fun with it. Not that I'm a fan of the pairing, I rgandhi the peacemake said:
You might have missed the part where I indicated that I didn't care what they say about it. My problem isn't with the pairing, or the intent, but the lack of build up. There was no hint of this, right up until they suddenly be came a thing. If the creators want to say it's canon, that's fine but my complaint then becomes poor writing on their part. You can't just Deus-exing them into a couple like that without it being jarring when it's contrary to their personas leading up to it. I'd have the same problem if Asami suddenly was dating Bolin at the end. It's like an after thought put in to be edgy or something.undeadsuitor said:
I think it was this very same thread (or, you know, one of the other half-dozen threads about this show) where I talked about how Word of God isn't exactly the be-all-end-all that people might think it is.Ukomba said:
so despite all the things that happened in the series all the cool fights and characters, all that anybody can talk about is about KorrAsami... look NanoFate did this long before Korra ever did can we instead talk about how awesome the show was for getting away from The Last Airbender and doing something totally different?
I'm really hoping Meelo gets his own show at some point
I'm really hoping Meelo gets his own show at some point
If my opinion is wrong then creators are also wrong because they came out and said it was a romantic relationship and ending. Here are the links.crazygameguy4ever said:
http://mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace
I'm not sure why you are in such vigorous denial. Do you have some kind of religious thing against it?
Personally like the writers themselves I thought it was pretty unambiguous but I guess some people hate the idea so much they would rather deny it's existence. It's going to take the writers personally animating official henti before some people will accept it.