Let the incest begin!

[AdamRBi]

You forget, Homosexuals can't have babies with each other. If we assume half the Homosexual couples want a child that's half as likely the trait will be passed. Also if we assume that one half of the couples who want children just adopt one, that programming is not passed. meaning the only way for it to be passed is by that 25% who use surrogates. And even then it's a 50-50 chance it'll be passed. These numbers aren't fact, I just made them up to illustrate my point.

On the other hand; Incest can, if it's heterosexual, conceive children and those children are often messed up due to interbreeding. We (or at least I) don't mind homosexuals because they are of no risk to our species as a whole. Incest is, and that's why we see it as a problem.

A) You can't assume homosexuality is hereditary. We know very little about how or why it occurs. It's not even proven for certain whether it's genetic or not.

B) You can't assume the offspring of an incestuous relationship would have any genetic defects. In the majority of cases, there are no defects. Defects generally occur over a number of generations without external genes.

C) You can't assume either a gay couple or an incestuous couple even want to procreate. Chances are they don't. You can argue genetics all you want, but if its the only reason you have against incest then its null and void in most circumstances.

Really, the only reason we're so disgusted by it in today's society is because it hasn't gone through the process of acceptance homosexuality has. I say again, the sooner we get past these taboo's, accept people for who they are, the sooner we can sort important shit out.

You're right, I can't assume anything. If there are Incest couples out there who don't want to have children then I'm ok with that. And like I said, I understand that not all homosexuals want to procreate ether. It's also true the debate on what makes someone into a homosexual is still being waged by the people. It has though been shown that there are defects in children born by interbreeding in our species. They may be small and unnoticeable at first, but stuff like that has a chance of spreading. Not a huge chance, but a chance.

Most of our culture is mature on the subject of love. And while they disagree on different takes on love they acknowledge the other's views and nature. Incest will have a hard time becoming accepted like Homosexuality though. Those who continue to preach how Homosexuality is evil and wrong are for the most part just being immature or hold themselves to some religious moral high ground. Most people who exercise maturity on the matter still think it's wrong, they just accept that some people are different and if there's no threat then it shouldn't be bothered with. We've matured enough to also accept incest, though we still think it's wrong and as it does prove to be a threat. Even if it's one that wouldn't manifest until possibly 3 generations down the line, it's still a threat to us and the unfortunate child inflicted with it. Incestuous Conception is a very bad thing. Incest may be a personal thing that we can be ok with, but Incestuous Conception is dangerous to the species just as a mosquito is dangerous to animals. Could just itch, or could end up being worse. It's one of those unnecessary risks.

So it's not the Incest we are all bunched up about. That's a personal preference that most of us can be mature about. It's Incestuous Conception we are against.

And I know the lady in the news report is using a surrogate, so there is no risk. Still is two relatives in an incestuous relation having a child and that's why we are all uncomfortable with it. I wish that child best of luck growing up, he's going to need it.

 

[Shpongled]

You're right, I can't assume anything. If there are Incest couples out there who don't want to have children then I'm ok with that. And like I said, I understand that not all homosexuals want to procreate ether. It's also true the debate on what makes someone into a homosexual is still being waged by the people. It has though been shown that there are defects in children born by interbreeding in our species. They may be small and unnoticeable at first, but stuff like that has a chance of spreading. Not a huge chance, but a chance.

Most of our culture is mature on the subject of love. And while they disagree on different takes on love they acknowledge the other's views and nature. Incest will have a hard time becoming accepted like Homosexuality though. Those who continue to preach how Homosexuality is evil and wrong are for the most part just being immature or hold themselves to some religious moral high ground. Most people who exercise maturity on the matter still think it's wrong, they just accept that some people are different and if there's no threat then it shouldn't be bothered with. We've matured enough to also accept incest, though we still think it's wrong and as it does prove to be a threat. Even if it's one that wouldn't manifest until possibly 3 generations down the line, it's still a threat to us and the unfortunate child inflicted with it. Incestuous Conception is a very bad thing. Incest may be a personal thing that we can be ok with, but Incestuous Conception is dangerous to the species just as a mosquito is dangerous to animals. Could just itch, or could end up being worse. It's one of those unnecessary risks.

So it's not the Incest we are all bunched up about. That's a personal preference that most of us can be mature about. It's Incestuous Conception we are against.

And I know the lady in the news report is using a surrogate, so there is no risk. Still is two relatives in an incestuous relation having a child and that's why we are all uncomfortable with it. I wish that child best of luck growing up, he's going to need it.

We're in agreement for the most part i think. I don't agree with incestuous couples having children. The issue i have is creating threads where we all go to mock those practicing incest, and preach about how disgusting it is. Create a thread about how disgusting a gay relationship may or may not be and you'll be shot down in the street. I don't like the idea of having sex with another man, nor do i like the idea of having sex with my sister. I just accept that some people do like having sex with the opposite sex, and some people do enjoy sex with their siblings. It takes all sorts, may as well just live with it.

And as mentioned earlier... yeh, in this instance, there's issues with the age difference and the difficulty in life the child could have.

 

[hcig]

but a surrogate mother is being used, so it's not technically inbreeding.

http://local-static0.forum-files.fobby.net/forum_attachments/0003/9774/lex-luthor-wrong1.jpg

The way a surrogate mother works is that you take take the fertilized egg and implant it into the uterus of a third party. It's still the genetic decendant of those two sick fucks, so it is still inbreeding.

There are two kinds of people saying it's alright

1) Morons going for shock value, often classified as "Trolls" of the genus Trollus.

2) These are the people who are actually gonna try to reinforce their points. These pathetic individuals who have had no actual romantic contact, let alone sexual experiance, possibly due to being fat, having neckbeards, and a vapid absence of personality. The only experiance these people have ever and likely will ever get in through a screen, giving them a high level of perversion that intermingles with their bitterness from a lack of actual romantic contact.

Given their pathetic failure of a social life, what they're doing is making an attempt to justify their pathetic status in the manner of a 7 year-old losing a game: By claiming the rules are unfair.

(I haven't been able to classify these people: The closest point of relation I can think of is Otaku narutard. Anyone have any ideas?)

Ah I see, my apologies then. Then they are even sicker people than before.

wrong, he eggs are waaay dead by now, but i appreciate your enthusiasm

 

[Lexodus]

Also, he must be blind, because she's one uuuuuuuuuuugly old lady.

 

[Icehearted]

Surrogate or not, this is inbreeding

Main Entry: inbreeding
Function: noun
Date: circa 1842

1 : the interbreeding of closely related individuals especially to preserve and fix desirable characters of and to eliminate unfavorable characters from a stock

Incest is when they have sex, but for the purposes of procreating, or breeding, inbreeding is where this falls.

Seriously, this is deranged, but not the first time I've heard of such things. Hell, not long ago there was a story, I think from the UK somewhere, where a father and his daughter were having children together.

Frankly, I think the outrage might be overblown, but the gross-out factor is also understated.

 

[mythicdawn12]

Well, it's gross. Otherwise live and let live, they can do whatever. Don't really care. But damn is it gross. Just, this is all I ask. Please, by Buddha, Jesus, Zeus and the Maker, please agree that they should never, ever, ever make a home made porno.

 

[JokerCrowe]

ignore this.
[sub]I made this comment before I read the entire article...[/sub]

 

[Xvito]

Faith in Humanity -10^10000

I feel properly sick to share a name with him.

This kinda thing happening with fish or ants or whatever, fair enough but comparatively "intelligent" human beings? No, just no.

The use of a surrogate, fair enough, everything else, just no, a grandmother and grandson having some sort of passionate relationship is wrong. I'm all for being close to your family but not THAT close.

You do realize that if you raise a real number with an even exponent the end result will always be a positive number, right?

So, your faith in humanity is going through the roof.

Forgot how to do tiny numbers, so it's supposed to be negative 10 million billion trillion or some stupidly high number (or in this case low number). or just add a 3 to the number I had there

I'm sorry mate. I realized what you meant after I posted and I couldn't be arsed with editing my post because of dinner. I'm just stupid sometimes, I guess...

 

[hannan4mitch]

I fully expect some escapists stuyding psychology to lay the some Freudian smackdown on this case.

Dude, Freud would have a field day with this kid if the kid was between the son and mother, but grandson and grandmother, Freud couldn't do anything with a relationship as f--ked up as this...

 

[hannan4mitch]

Another point, the kid's not only going to be messed up psychologically, but possibly physically and mentally, too.
Remember Mendelian genetics? Recessive genes are guaranteed to be passed on to this kid.