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AlternatePFG said:
...it begins.

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CM156 said:
That was an interesting read, some of them seem a bit anachronistic though, such as the militia one. Nowadays the US military is possibly the strongest in the world, I don't think they need their citizens to support them if they were invaded (if they can even be successfully invaded).

Also, I would like to add to the second amendment that in the Fallout universe, you can literally bear bear arms.

Viking Incognito said:
[HEADING=1]Lessons with Head Scribe Viking[/HEADING]​

Class is in session, sorry for the hiatus. So when the nukes went off, they apparently blew away the idea of the nuclear family with them. Why is that? Well I think Caesar is right when he says that the Great War set society back at 0, or something like that. The point is, what is in human nature? Sex. Random sex, breeding for the sake of the species. Sex as often and with as many people as possible. When we were cave men without all our technology and guns were spent half our time running away from huge furry monsters with claws and fangs trying to bite chunks out of our squishy bi-pedal asses. Sound [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110511005661/fallout/images/thumb/9/9c/Deathclaw.png/240px-Deathclaw.png] familiar [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090625104122/fallout/images/thumb/2/2e/Yao_guai.png/200px-Yao_guai.png] ? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110514013036/fallout/images/thumb/6/66/Radscorpion.png/240px-Radscorpion.png] So, when the bombs went off and took our modern wealth, technology, and safety from the environment, we reverted to the instincts that kept us going last time life was like that, namely neanderthal times. The best example of this can be seen in Caesar's Legion; they are literally the resurgences of an entire earlier society. We see a startling number of raiders and such as apposed to families because that is the part of the population who is having trouble coming out of the neanderthal mentality. I remember specifically when Raul said that the first thing people were doing when he got to Mexico City was "forming the beginnings of raider tribes". We are also social creatures, as is evidenced here. Basically the evidence we gather is that when we lost everything that made us "Modern people" we had to go through the stages of society one by one all over again, some faster than others. Wow that went way off the topic of family huh? Oh well. Next lesson? Here is a hint: Good lord there are a lot of these.
well that was off topic, but still good. However, there are some nuclear families in Fallout, such as the Weathers. However, when it comes to families there is usually at least one member who is dead. Boone would have had a nuclear family...

...if he didn't have to kill his pregnant wife.

Also, Raul explains that he had a large family, however, they were all killed and picked off due to the Great War. Which I think could be a reason for the lack of nuclear families; the world is a harder place to live in now, so fatalities are on the rise.
 

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Viking Incognito said:
[HEADING=1]Lessons with Head Scribe Viking[/HEADING]​

Class is in session, sorry for the hiatus. So when the nukes went off, they apparently blew away the idea of the nuclear family with them. Why is that? Well I think Caesar is right when he says that the Great War set society back at 0, or something like that. The point is, what is in human nature? Sex. Random sex, breeding for the sake of the species. Sex as often and with as many people as possible. When we were cave men without all our technology and guns were spent half our time running away from huge furry monsters with claws and fangs trying to bite chunks out of our squishy bi-pedal asses. Sound [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110511005661/fallout/images/thumb/9/9c/Deathclaw.png/240px-Deathclaw.png] familiar [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090625104122/fallout/images/thumb/2/2e/Yao_guai.png/200px-Yao_guai.png] ? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110514013036/fallout/images/thumb/6/66/Radscorpion.png/240px-Radscorpion.png] So, when the bombs went off and took our modern wealth, technology, and safety from the environment, we reverted to the instincts that kept us going last time life was like that, namely neanderthal times. The best example of this can be seen in Caesar's Legion; they are literally the resurgences of an entire earlier society. We see a startling number of raiders and such as apposed to families because that is the part of the population who is having trouble coming out of the neanderthal mentality. I remember specifically when Raul said that the first thing people were doing when he got to Mexico City was "forming the beginnings of raider tribes". We are also social creatures, as is evidenced here. Basically the evidence we gather is that when we lost everything that made us "Modern people" we had to go through the stages of society one by one all over again, some faster than others. Wow that went way off the topic of family huh? Oh well. Next lesson? Here is a hint: Good lord there are a lot of these.

*Manly tears and curt hug to CM156* Look at that, my first student to graduate. You done good kid. I'm so proud.

CM156 said:
AlternatePFG said:
Edit: Ignore this post.
This is rather small, but can I be a high scribe rather than head scribe? I mean, there's only one head scribe, and it was viking's idea first.
Your humility know no bounds. I would be honored if we could do a tag-team some time.
*Manly Hug*. I'd be honored as well.

A bit off topic, but you made your point. As for the next lesson, I'm guessing... religion?

ChupathingyX said:
AlternatePFG said:
...it begins.

*ominous drum*

CM156 said:
That was an interesting read, some of them seem a bit anachronistic though, such as the militia one. Nowadays the US military is possibly the strongest in the world, I don't think they need their citizens to support them if they were invaded (if they can even be successfully invaded).

Also, I would like to add to the second amendment that in the Fallout universe, you can literally bear bear arms.

Viking Incognito said:
[HEADING=1]Lessons with Head Scribe Viking[/HEADING]​

Class is in session, sorry for the hiatus. So when the nukes went off, they apparently blew away the idea of the nuclear family with them. Why is that? Well I think Caesar is right when he says that the Great War set society back at 0, or something like that. The point is, what is in human nature? Sex. Random sex, breeding for the sake of the species. Sex as often and with as many people as possible. When we were cave men without all our technology and guns were spent half our time running away from huge furry monsters with claws and fangs trying to bite chunks out of our squishy bi-pedal asses. Sound [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110511005661/fallout/images/thumb/9/9c/Deathclaw.png/240px-Deathclaw.png] familiar [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090625104122/fallout/images/thumb/2/2e/Yao_guai.png/200px-Yao_guai.png] ? [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110514013036/fallout/images/thumb/6/66/Radscorpion.png/240px-Radscorpion.png] So, when the bombs went off and took our modern wealth, technology, and safety from the environment, we reverted to the instincts that kept us going last time life was like that, namely neanderthal times. The best example of this can be seen in Caesar's Legion; they are literally the resurgences of an entire earlier society. We see a startling number of raiders and such as apposed to families because that is the part of the population who is having trouble coming out of the neanderthal mentality. I remember specifically when Raul said that the first thing people were doing when he got to Mexico City was "forming the beginnings of raider tribes". We are also social creatures, as is evidenced here. Basically the evidence we gather is that when we lost everything that made us "Modern people" we had to go through the stages of society one by one all over again, some faster than others. Wow that went way off the topic of family huh? Oh well. Next lesson? Here is a hint: Good lord there are a lot of these.
well that was off topic, but still good. However, there are some nuclear families in Fallout, such as the Weathers. However, when it comes to families there is usually at least one member who is dead. Boone would have had a nuclear family...

...if he didn't have to kill his pregnant wife.

Also, Raul explains that he had a large family, however, they were all killed and picked off due to the Great War. Which I think could be a reason for the lack of nuclear families; the world is a harder place to live in now, so fatalities are on the rise.
As it stands in the United States, the court has ruled that private citizens have the right to own weapons, regardless of militia status. See District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 and McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025, 130 S.Ct. 3020.

Then again, you're talking to a firearms enthusiast, so I'm biased :p

My next writing will be on economic systems in the wastes.
 

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CM156 said:
My next writing will be on economic systems in the wastes.
Makes me think of that line in OWB about how Mobius predicted the use of caps in place of money. I never understood that considering you can find plenty of pre-war money lying around, an I would think that with ll the factories destroyed that the number of caps would be finite, but hey, it's fallout.fr
 

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Viking Incognito said:
CM156 said:
My next writing will be on economic systems in the wastes.
Makes me think of that line in OWB about how Mobius predicted the use of caps in place of money. I never understood that considering you can find plenty of pre-war money lying around, an I would think that with ll the factories destroyed that the number of caps would be finite, but hey, it's fallout.fr
I think it has to do with the basic needs of what money has to be in order to be used as money. Caps fit the requirement in the post-wasteland rather well.
 

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Viking Incognito said:
CM156 said:
My next writing will be on economic systems in the wastes.
Makes me think of that line in OWB about how Mobius predicted the use of caps in place of money. I never understood that considering you can find plenty of pre-war money lying around, an I would think that with ll the factories destroyed that the number of caps would be finite, but hey, it's fallout.fr
Actually civilisations are starting to get rid of caps.

The NCR are turning to printing their own money and minting their own coins. The NCR even have their own Treasurer.

Caesar's Legion are also minting their own coins and creating their own curency.
 

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ChupathingyX said:
Viking Incognito said:
CM156 said:
My next writing will be on economic systems in the wastes.
Makes me think of that line in OWB about how Mobius predicted the use of caps in place of money. I never understood that considering you can find plenty of pre-war money lying around, an I would think that with ll the factories destroyed that the number of caps would be finite, but hey, it's fallout.fr
Actually civilisations are starting to get rid of caps.

The NCR are turning to printing their own money and minting their own coins. The NCR even have their own Treasurer.

Caesar's Legion are also minting their own coins and creating their own curency.
Yeah, but it's paper money. Those don't work in places where law enforcement (and law in general) is weak. Plus, they run into the issue of possible inflation if they aren't careful.
 

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CM156 said:
Yeah, but it's paper money. Those don't work in places where law enforcement (and law in general) is weak. Plus, they run into the issue of possible inflation if they aren't careful.
You have to start somewhere, and at sometime.

Also, you have to remember that in tightly controlled NCR territory (back in California), the NCR's police force is much better. In Fallout 2 the NCR have a police force, and you can kinda compare it to the settlement of America back in the old west. The west (California) represents the more civilised side with police, whereas the more midwest is like the Old West, where the NCR have a presence but not complete control or law.
 

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ChupathingyX said:
CM156 said:
Yeah, but it's paper money. Those don't work in places where law enforcement (and law in general) is weak. Plus, they run into the issue of possible inflation if they aren't careful.
You have to start somewhere, and at sometime.

Also, you have to remember that in tightly controlled NCR territory (back in California), the NCR's police force is much better. In Fallout 2 the NCR have a police force, and you can kinda compare it to the settlement of America back in the old west. The west (California) represents the more civilised side with police, whereas the more midwest is like the Old West, where the NCR have a presence but not complete control or law.
I guess one of the biggest advantages is that caps are taken everywhere, correct? If the Lone Wanderer went to the Mojave, they could still spend what they had. But NCR money is worth little outside of NCR territory
 

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Melon Hunter said:
Perhaps something on the SCIENCE! explanation the Fallout universe has for mutated creatures or technology versus real-life equivalents?
CM156 said:
How about something on the food chain and how it changes after nuclear war?

Thanks for the ideas guys, I'll keep them in mind, though CM's idea is more along the lines of ecology rather than biology. I'm thinking I'll put one up in November, after all my midterms are finished. I'll probably start with something about how the idea of radioactive water is complete and utter BS.
 

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Berenzen said:
Melon Hunter said:
Perhaps something on the SCIENCE! explanation the Fallout universe has for mutated creatures or technology versus real-life equivalents?
CM156 said:
How about something on the food chain and how it changes after nuclear war?

Thanks for the ideas guys, I'll keep them in mind, though CM's idea is more along the lines of ecology rather than biology. I'm thinking I'll put one up in November, after all my midterms are finished. I'll probably start with something about how the idea of radioactive water is complete and utter BS.
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
 

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CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
 

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Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
Wow. I did not know that.

Are you a chemist?
 

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CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
Wow. I did not know that.

Are you a chemist?
No, I'm in school majoring in computing science with emphasis on software design, but my father is a molecular biologist, and last year I did my first year of university majoring in nuclear physics.
 

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Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
Wow. I did not know that.

Are you a chemist?
No, I'm in school majoring in computing science with emphasis on software design, but my father is a molecular biologist, and last year I did my first year of university majoring in nuclear physics.
Ahhh. That sounds like fun.

I'm undecided, but I'm looking to do a Major in International Relations, and a Minor in either Business and Poli-sci. So law is really my area of study.
 

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CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
Wow. I did not know that.

Are you a chemist?
No, I'm in school majoring in computing science with emphasis on software design, but my father is a molecular biologist, and last year I did my first year of university majoring in nuclear physics.
Ahhh. That sounds like fun.

I'm undecided, but I'm looking to do a Major in International Relations, and a Minor in either Business and Poli-sci. So law is really my area of study.
I'm a sophomore in high-school getting my brain raped in biology every week.

.....But hey, at least I know I can get good grades in Philosophy/Psychology/Human behavior.
 

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Viking Incognito said:
CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Berenzen said:
CM156 said:
Really? I thought water could get irradiated

Or is it that it wouldn't be in this concentration 200 years ex post facto?
I'll get into it in some depth next week, but there wouldn't be enough radioactive particulate matter to raise the concentration of it in lake or ocean by any significant size.
Wow. I did not know that.

Are you a chemist?
No, I'm in school majoring in computing science with emphasis on software design, but my father is a molecular biologist, and last year I did my first year of university majoring in nuclear physics.
Ahhh. That sounds like fun.

I'm undecided, but I'm looking to do a Major in International Relations, and a Minor in either Business and Poli-sci. So law is really my area of study.
I'm a sophomore in high-school getting my brain raped in biology every week.

.....But hey, at least I know I can get good grades in Philosophy/Psychology/Human behavior.
I have a bit of trouble with Psych because I was taught the Freudian method, and it's taken me a long time to get that view out of my mind.
 

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[HEADING=1]Lessons with High Scribe CM156[/HEADING]​

Economics in the waste: Bottle Caps as money? It?s more likely than you think
Class, whenever one person has something another wants, there are two likely outcomes. The first is violence, to take what is desired. The second is of course, trade. Trade is the exchange of goods and services for compensation. There are also two ways of doing this. The first is called barter. In the barter system, one person gives up an item or agrees to perform a task in exchange for another item or task. You might swap your pistol for a week?s supply of food, or give someone your boots in exchange for medical attention. Obviously, this system has a major flaw: it only works if both parties have something the other wants, and are willing to exchange what the other has. The doctor may state that he has enough boots, and what he really needs are gloves. You don?t have gloves, so no trade is made. Perhaps he demands two sets of boots, which you don?t think is worth his time. Thus, reaching a deal can be problematic. What is the remedy? Create an item that everyone can agree on a set value. This is the birth of money. Centuries before the war, civilizations used golden coins as money. This is rather odd. Gold, in these times, has little intrinsic value. It?s the most malleable metal, and thus, nearly worthless for tools. It conducts heat and electricity well, but that was not of much use. This is several centuries before electricity was discovered. However, when it was minted into coins, people gave it value as a standard of trade. Other metals, such as silver and copper, were also used. One such civilization, they ran into a problem with their money. The minted silver coins called Denarius.
Like all governments, they wanted to be able to control the money supply, and inflate when needed. They had, however, run low on silver. Thus, they decided to start ?clipping coins?. They would trim off the sides of a coin and use it to print more.
However, this lead to a problem. Because silver was valued on its own merit, clipped coins were considered less valued. Merchants would refuse to accept clipped coins. Obviously, a solution was needed to this idea. It came during the Tang Dynasty in China during the 7th century. They decided to use paper notes as money. Paper is much, much lighter than metal, and the government could print as much was needed. However, it?s obvious that they shouldn?t. The Germans tried this with their currency, and money became cheaper than firewood.

Paper money works when the government backs it. When government does not, money becomes worthless.

Most major civilizations before the Great War used paper money. After the war, when the survivors emerged from the caves, crannies, and vaults, a new system of exchange was created. This system based its money around bottle caps.

At face value, bottle caps don?t seem like something that would make good money. However, let?s look at what the properties of good money are. The first is that it must have an agreed set of values and numbers. That?s clear. Five bottle caps are more than three bottle caps, and thus, are considered worth more. Bottle caps are also accepted, regardless of condition. Another is that it must be a store of value. As it is widely used, it is a store of value. Other, lesser properties are that it be easy to transport and identify, it should be durable, easily divisible, hard to counterfeit and easy to store. Caps are easy to carry, as they seemingly have no weight. They have managed to survive nuclear war, so they are durable. Because one cap isn?t worth much, giving change is easy. Caps aren?t easy to counterfeit. Many machines that made them have fallen into disrepair, and it?s easy for trained professionals to identify counterfeit caps. They also seem not to take up space either. One of the biggest advantages is that caps are accepted all across the former United States. Should you go visit the Mojave chapter, you will find caps from here are just as good in New Vegas.

However, using bottle caps carries with it some major problems. Firstly is that it?s difficult to regulate. There is also the risk of a stash that survived the war being uncovered, hyper inflating the local economy. Finally, Caps aren?t very liquid. Getting value can be somewhat difficult. The biggest problem is that caps carry little worth on their own. They only can be used for explosives, if need be.

However, in the absence of a strong government with the power to mint money and regulate it, caps will continue to be the primary source of income. However, the New California Republic (NCR) is making a move to return to paper money. As it stands, most government workers prefer to be paid in caps, but the practice is growing. The NCR, if it can keep control, will likely be the ones to re-institute the paper money system into the world.


As always, C&C is welcome
 

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The NCR initially backed its currency with gold, but the gold reserves were destroyed by the Brotherhood of Steel so the Republic was forced to back it with water instead. This caused much of the inflation, and is part of why Hoover Dam is so important.
 

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Aidinthel said:
The NCR initially backed its currency with gold, but the gold reserves were destroyed by the Brotherhood of Steel so the Republic was forced to back it with water instead. This caused much of the inflation, and is part of why Hoover Dam is so important.
Wait, they destroyed gold reserves? Why?


Hunh. That did not show up in my research.

Good job student! Extra credit!
 

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CM156 said:
Wait, they destroyed gold reserves? Why?
By that point it was clear that the Brotherhood couldn't defeat NCR, so they decided to just cause as much damage as they could.