Let's Remake Star Wars
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on your point of what to make the "Empire" realistically to make it relate-able you have to throwaway this notion of the one all powerful empire bent on taking over everything. the most that has happened recently at least in the US is terrorism, and that is not so much a territorial situation, but more in line with a war of idealogs who feel they oppose each other because of a very big R-word, and not so much ethnicity as major media would have people believe because even they are afraid to bring up the R-word. So realistically the Evil Empire couldn't at this time be some all powerful force, but something that deals with insergency, and possibly indoctrination, but this in film context can quickly become a repeat of The Siege http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133952/ in space. which for good, or bad still would not have the same international impact, or even context as Star Wars did of the time.
captcha: deep thought (thank you for the complement I thought it was).
captcha: deep thought (thank you for the complement I thought it was).
Good, now all you need to do is get everyone else to think in a similar way and maybe we can all move on. Heck maybe we can achieve global peace if get people to stop caring grudges.tohellwithyourcrap said:
Not a bad idea Bob. Especially considering that the pitch should appeal to George Lucas himself as you said.
I would like to throw my own idea out there that could flip SW on it's head in an interesting way. Have SW switch settings with LOTR and while we are at it have LOTR switch with SW setting for its own inevitable remakes. The force already worked like magic anyway so it would fit into the role of ancient wizards easily. Imagine how cool it would be to have Luke, Han, and Chubbaca sneak into a Howls Moving Castle style Death Star(named such because an evil star gives it its power). The different setting could really throw off expectations and let the audience be genuinely surprised. Of course there is always the steam punk option....if your into that sort of thing.
The LOTR in space would have the Eye of Sauron be the name of a doomsday war ship with a Hal 9000 computer at the helm. The one ring in this case would be a control circuit for the ship that you have to plug in manually.
This sounds silly I know but I think it would be fun.
I would like to throw my own idea out there that could flip SW on it's head in an interesting way. Have SW switch settings with LOTR and while we are at it have LOTR switch with SW setting for its own inevitable remakes. The force already worked like magic anyway so it would fit into the role of ancient wizards easily. Imagine how cool it would be to have Luke, Han, and Chubbaca sneak into a Howls Moving Castle style Death Star(named such because an evil star gives it its power). The different setting could really throw off expectations and let the audience be genuinely surprised. Of course there is always the steam punk option....if your into that sort of thing.
The LOTR in space would have the Eye of Sauron be the name of a doomsday war ship with a Hal 9000 computer at the helm. The one ring in this case would be a control circuit for the ship that you have to plug in manually.
This sounds silly I know but I think it would be fun.
I think it could be good, and could be interesting. I just don't believe it would.
I'd rather big-budget work was put into the EU, with an eye towards making it more cohesive and more approachable, than re-threading ground already walked. But then, I am an over-ambitious idiot.
I'd rather big-budget work was put into the EU, with an eye towards making it more cohesive and more approachable, than re-threading ground already walked. But then, I am an over-ambitious idiot.
Here's the problems with these reasons:
1) We know what happened - so what's the point?
2) Moving the series MORE toward the prequel style of doing things? No. NO, NO, NO!
And for the record, Red Tails was bad.
3) Can you really envision Star Wars going Hurt Locker or Black Hawk Down or even Saving Private Ryan? It wouldn't fit. Star Wars is ultimately escapist fantasy and I don't think that can change, or should change.
4)Right, let's spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get George Lucas to leave his series alone.
Hmm... that might actually be worth it.
1) We know what happened - so what's the point?
2) Moving the series MORE toward the prequel style of doing things? No. NO, NO, NO!
And for the record, Red Tails was bad.
3) Can you really envision Star Wars going Hurt Locker or Black Hawk Down or even Saving Private Ryan? It wouldn't fit. Star Wars is ultimately escapist fantasy and I don't think that can change, or should change.
4)Right, let's spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get George Lucas to leave his series alone.
Hmm... that might actually be worth it.
No, and here's why. Lucas's reason for a lot of his edits seems to be that he wasn't able to make the real Star Wars that he had wanted to because of the limitations of technology. His edits are therefore bringing the original films closer to what he originally envisioned. The problem is no one likes his edits, so arguably no one really wants to see Lucas's "originally envisioned" Star Wars that a remake with modern special effects would allow.
While you do make good points (for one thing, there shouldn't be many plot holes as a remake should more smoother and connected with each other) however I refuse to give Lucas any more money.
Also I don't really give a danm that much about CGI as he had used far too many in the Episode 1-3 (The remake should be less well less greenscreens, they can have the ships battle in CGI.)
Also I don't really give a danm that much about CGI as he had used far too many in the Episode 1-3 (The remake should be less well less greenscreens, they can have the ships battle in CGI.)
Easy. Have him bust out a ton of new bad ass movies that we have not seen then in Revenge have Palpatine do the same and still beat Yoda. Then Empire still make sense as he was unable to teach Luke the really complicated stuff due to a lack of time.DVS BSTrD said:
You liked it and that's cool. It's just that to me Yoda was always beyond lightsabers. The wise old man that nobody thinks is powerful who then busts out a ton of magic tricks that no one else can pull off.
Really? NO ONE has posted the epic Darth Vader "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" scene from Revenge of the Sith yet? Come on people. You call yourselves Star Wars fans? I'd do it, but I have no idea how to insert a video.
Anyway, if it got remade, I'd go see it. I'd want it to be an animated movie though, because my brain just wouldn't be able to handle seeing anyone else play Luke, Leia, or Han. I've been reading the books since I was a kid, and their faces have been on the covers. I've watched them age over many books so they're engrained into my memory. Anyone else and I'd just spend the whole movie thinking, "That's not Han Solo!"
They could certainly add a few improvements. The lightsaber duel between Vader and Obi in A New Hope was pretty bad. When I was little, I thought the only reason Obi lost was because his lightsaber died.
The arm getting cut off at the bar has blood all over it and floor. That's an oops now that we know how lightsabers work.
I'd love to see the Y-wings actually fight in the Death Star battle instead of just getting blown out of the sky. They could also 'officially' reveal that unknown Y-wing pilot, K. Farlander (I think that's his name, right?)
Empire Strikes back could introduce Mara Jade, although I'm not sure how well that would go over. Her plotline doesn't get resolved until after the movies. Then again, if they're remaking it, perhaps they could find a way to make her Luke's foil until the end of the trilogy where she realizes she's on the wrong side.
Can we see a B-wing pilot please? PLEASE?! I know we saw one in the deleted scenes, but I want to see one fighting, like Green and Grey Leaders.
Anyway, if it got remade, I'd go see it. I'd want it to be an animated movie though, because my brain just wouldn't be able to handle seeing anyone else play Luke, Leia, or Han. I've been reading the books since I was a kid, and their faces have been on the covers. I've watched them age over many books so they're engrained into my memory. Anyone else and I'd just spend the whole movie thinking, "That's not Han Solo!"
They could certainly add a few improvements. The lightsaber duel between Vader and Obi in A New Hope was pretty bad. When I was little, I thought the only reason Obi lost was because his lightsaber died.
The arm getting cut off at the bar has blood all over it and floor. That's an oops now that we know how lightsabers work.
I'd love to see the Y-wings actually fight in the Death Star battle instead of just getting blown out of the sky. They could also 'officially' reveal that unknown Y-wing pilot, K. Farlander (I think that's his name, right?)
Empire Strikes back could introduce Mara Jade, although I'm not sure how well that would go over. Her plotline doesn't get resolved until after the movies. Then again, if they're remaking it, perhaps they could find a way to make her Luke's foil until the end of the trilogy where she realizes she's on the wrong side.
Can we see a B-wing pilot please? PLEASE?! I know we saw one in the deleted scenes, but I want to see one fighting, like Green and Grey Leaders.
Point taken but sarcasm stings nonetheless. Making a film is hard, making a great film is harder, and remaking a great film into another great film is extraordinarily hard but is well within the realm of reasonable expectation. Even though global peace is a far nobler venture than a remake of Star Wars so far as I know it is only possible in vague theory. If Watchmen ?The Un-filmable Comic? and LOTR ?The Un-filmable Literature? can be executed to near perfection who?s to say an excellent remake of Star Wars won?t make the whining man-children who claim they are fans shut their mouths FOREVER? If a community is going to support such a remake it?s going to be the loyal fan base that appreciates quality content where they can find it. High hopes, not blind faith mind you.Twilight_guy said:
I accept your first point that it was that they just wanted Dooku in Revenge but their is a hudge amount of Star Wars games that have cool powers for Jedi and according to a friend of mine who has a ton of EU books Jedi can use stuff like Lightning as long as they do not use anger to fuel it.DVS BSTrD said:
I have a problem with this shot. Yoda is far too wasteful in his movements. The original trilogy fights always seemed to me to be about the effect, not about the flash. Why does Yoda have to put his right arm all the way out before Force Pulling the lightsaber?DVS BSTrD said:
Maybe that's nitpicky, but I think it's yet another symptom of the larger problems with the prequels.
I actually had this idea a few years back, but I admit I hadn't thought it through so much at the time. But yes, I definitely agree that the original Star Wars had a lot going for it, and it would be interesting to see what someone would do with it now. Kind of like my other idea to write a new Gospel for a twenty-first century audience; it'd be the same story, but done in such a way as to resonate with newer heartstrings. For this reason, though, I don't think George Lucas should be in charge. He had the original idea, and it worked so well in its time because George Lucas worked well in that time. Now, he may be a bit too old to forget his sentimentality.
Also, anything to get rid of the akward sibling kissing scenes would be a welcome change.
Also, anything to get rid of the akward sibling kissing scenes would be a welcome change.
Personally I think it makes more sense to remake the prequel trilogy and then create sequels for most of the reasons you said, the original trilogy doesn't need tampering with, it's a beautiful thing and the less George does to it the better. The only thing we have to gain from him remaking it is that it'll make us appreciate how good the original trilogy really was...Also he could maybe get rid of the ewoks and have it as Wookies instead, that'd be nice.
We've already seen that in his adept hands Lucas would just dump more cartoonishly proportioned aliens and otherwise pointless CGI into his movies. Luke would have even whinier daddy issues to fit him in with Anakin's personality and Obi Wan might swing his lightsaber like a sugar-high spaz at a rave. Also Hayden Christianson.
And he'd probably do it the best out of any director I can think of. And that's kind of sad.
And he'd probably do it the best out of any director I can think of. And that's kind of sad.
This is a great article Bob, and your reasons are very well thought out and I spent too long contemplating the connection of Luke, Leia, and and Han to their respective allied forces.
However, I see this as a handful of reasons against almost a hundred. These constant remakes are undermining real creative vision, and it almost gives Hollywood the image that its run out of ideas and wants to apply their insane CG abilities to films that are iconic because of the era they were released in.
But I know what we all want. I do, and you know you do. Knights of the Old Republic: The Movie 1&2. It would be glorious.
However, I see this as a handful of reasons against almost a hundred. These constant remakes are undermining real creative vision, and it almost gives Hollywood the image that its run out of ideas and wants to apply their insane CG abilities to films that are iconic because of the era they were released in.
But I know what we all want. I do, and you know you do. Knights of the Old Republic: The Movie 1&2. It would be glorious.