Lets talk about Girls that play video games

[Phasmal]

Okay first of all I am just pointing out that you wrote that in such a way that it come off strange. Second something doesn't have to be positive for someone to showing it off, it all depends on the way it was phrased.

EDIT: oh damn you caught me red handed.... DAMN MY BOOB-ENVY

I think if we get to the point where I have to be careful about how many times I say that I'm a girl who games in a thread about girls who game I may put my laptop through the coffee table.
But like I said, there's nothing to show off. Being a girl is just like being a guy, but minus the penis. It's like saying `I'm a Taurus` or `I have brown hair`. It's just what it is.

 

[mrhateful]

Okay first of all I am just pointing out that you wrote that in such a way that it come off strange. Second something doesn't have to be positive for someone to showing it off, it all depends on the way it was phrased.

EDIT: oh damn you caught me red handed.... DAMN MY BOOB-ENVY

I think if we get to the point where I have to be careful about how many times I say that I'm a girl who games in a thread about girls who game I may put my laptop through the coffee table.
But like I said, there's nothing to show off. Being a girl is just like being a guy, but minus the penis. It's like saying `I'm a Taurus` or `I have brown hair`. It's just what it is.

Maybe... it wasn't to be mean or anything, it just felt like reading something a politician wrote where they wanted to get a point across. I am not saying you shouldn't identify yourself as a girl gamer since if you feel that is your identification then shouldn't get bullied into following the mainstream. While at the same time trying not to be all in your face about it.

 

[Phasmal]

Maybe... it wasn't to be mean or anything, it just felt like reading something a politician wrote where they wanted to get a point across. I am not saying you shouldn't identify yourself as a girl gamer since if you feel that is your identification then shouldn't get bullied into following the mainstream. While at the same time trying not to be all in your face about it.

I felt what I was writing was relevent. I didn't write it to be `OMG IM A GIRL LOOK AT ME`, but merely `I'm a girl and I'm sick of this kind of crap`.
I don't hide my gender any more (used to), but I dont make any attempt to rub anybodys face in it. Like I said, what is there to rub in?

I am a girl that plays games. So when people ask me on a game if I am a girl, I say yes. Or if a reference is made that makes it clear I am a girl, I confirm it.

I take it this was the part you took issue with?

I am a girl that plays games. So when people ask me on a game if I am, I say yes. Or if a reference is made that makes it clear I am, I confirm it.

Would you have said anything if it was just this? I don't think a slightly dodgy sentence-build should be a big deal.

 

[mrhateful]

Maybe... it wasn't to be mean or anything, it just felt like reading something a politician wrote where they wanted to get a point across. I am not saying you shouldn't identify yourself as a girl gamer since if you feel that is your identification then shouldn't get bullied into following the mainstream. While at the same time trying not to be all in your face about it.

I felt what I was writing was relevent. I didn't write it to be `OMG IM A GIRL LOOK AT ME`, but merely `I'm a girl and I'm sick of this kind of crap`.
I don't hide my gender any more (used to), but I dont make any attempt to rub anybodys face in it. Like I said, what is there to rub in?

I am a girl that plays games. So when people ask me on a game if I am a girl, I say yes. Or if a reference is made that makes it clear I am a girl, I confirm it.

I take it this was the part you took issue with?

I am a girl that plays games. So when people ask me on a game if I am, I say yes. Or if a reference is made that makes it clear I am, I confirm it.

Would you have said anything if it was just this? I don't think a slightly dodgy sentence-build should be a big deal.

Reading it yourself you gotta agree that the sentence does come out like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

 

[Phasmal]

Reading it yourself you gotta agree that the sentence does come out like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

Not really. I just thought it was bad grammar to say I am a girl and then put a full stop and then reference it in the middle of a new sentance.
I wasn't aware anyone was keeping count. Can we... let it go?

 

[mrhateful]

Not really. I just thought it was bad grammar to say I am a girl and then put a full stop and then reference it in the middle of a new sentance.
I wasn't aware anyone was keeping count. Can we... let it go?

Admit your crimes, or prepare yourself for eternal damnation Witch of gamers! So sayeth I justicar of Tyr and lord of this forum.

....just kidding sure ill let it go

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

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I have been gaming since 1984. I really like video games. I don't do it to impress guys.

Why do you think women play games just to impress guys? Do guys think they are the center of the universe or something.

Here is my raptr. My hours are a bit low at the moment because I'm seriously ill.
http://raptr.com/MoonlightButterfly/wall

It of course doesn't include the consoles and PC I have owned since the 80's. I built my current PC and overclocked it myself.

I have never known a guy personally who games as much as I do. Ever.

I love gaming it's the one thing I'm really into and yet everyday I see that guys view me as some sort of second class citizen or even worse a mythical creature.

I'm tired of it guys I really am. Just quit it will ya. I just want to be 'a gamer'.

Oh and while I have never played competitively I do play multiplayer games with guys who competed in CS tournaments. So I can't be that terrible if they can put up with me lol.

You misunderstand me =/
I'm not busting out my torch and pitchfork because girls play video games, I am annoyed at the girls that are being attention whores, drawing attention to the fact that they are a girl playing games.

Yes but by extension how are you singling these girls out from 'real gamers'. What is the criteria for your judgement?

To me that girl in the video was just showing off her rig. There are plenty of videos of guys on youtube doing the same thing. Hell just look at the Razer facebook page every other day they have a guy on there like LOL lookit my stuff.

I guess they must be attention whores trying to attract girls huh.

I like girly things. Look at my name tag on here and my avatar. Moonlight Butterfly is a Dark Souls boss but I like the name it sounds feminine and pretty. I also have a great fondness for the colour pink and I will pick it for anything if it is offered. I choose bright pink armour on ME multiplayer and my Dungeon Defenders character is a female with a light pink steampunk outfit on.

Am I showing off as being a girl? No. I am just enjoying what I like. What's wrong with being feminine and being a gamer. Is it taboo? Do we all have to speak like Wolverine and act all macho 24/7 to be 'real gamers'

On the other side of the coin I always felt like you have to prove yourself massively if you are a girl online. There is always this crushing anxiety when I'm playing, to do well. If I'm doing badly in a game my best mate teases me because he knows that I am anxious to prove myself and says things like 'Woah Charlie bottom of kills for that round must be because you are a girl!' as a joke of course. But he knows that is my greatest fear, that people will actually think that. In a way it's positive because it drives me to improve. But it does make me uncomfortable if I'm playing with people I don't know and I won't let on I'm a girl unless I have to speak on comms.

 

[Kahunaburger]

there are girl "gamers" "readers" but they are few and far between.

i suspect for many who claim to be (and certainly large amounts of the kind that shimmy in and out of Gamestation Barnes & Noble with groups of friends) its probably a bit like deciding to be a Goth...

Ask yourself if the post is still something you'd with the changes. If it isn't, think about why it isn't something you'd say.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

there are girl "gamers" "readers" but they are few and far between.

i suspect for many who claim to be (and certainly large amounts of the kind that shimmy in and out of Gamestation Barnes & Noble with groups of friends) its probably a bit like deciding to be a Goth...

Ask yourself if the post is still something you'd with the changes. If it isn't, think about why it isn't something you'd say.

This is a better comparison

....

You not see how silly it is. :3

Disclaimer: I love Bronies and MLP:FIM.

 

[hoboman29]

I don't have anything philosophical to say about this but I think this goes without saying: Gamers say and do the darndest things by constantly acting like its not normal for a gamer to be a girl and by saying sexist things about it.


GAMERS...GET...OVER...YOURSELVES (this is the 21st century)

 

[Kahunaburger]

whether you acknowledge it or not the young have, for want of a better term, tribes and self-identifying as "a Gamer" (and deliberately making the decision to do so) rather than being a gamer simply because you have always played games is now one of them.

The thing I notice most often is a lot of dudes:

A) Self-identifying as a "gamer"*, then getting mad when women self-identify as "gamers."

B) Assuming all sorts of negative things about women who play video games with very little evidence to back it up.

[small]*I don't get this. Depending on who you are, it's a hobby or a pastime, but it's not an identity.[/small]

Haha I like this.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

i'm not getting mad and never said i considered any of what i said negative.

many who enter the peer group will develop a love of games and the culture surrounding it but its not going to make the 40 year old women i know who had 90+ stars on super mario world suddenly develop a burning desire for gothic like make-up, black tea shirts with something gaming related on it, sometimes bizzare hair colors and anime and cute cartoons.

Congratulations you just described me. I'm 30. I played Space invaders until it ran out of zeros on the Atari 2600 (not literally). pew pew pew pew.

Hatters gonna hat.

 

[NiPah]

Let me introduce you to <url=http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/4571_Scarlett>Acer.Scarlett, a professional SC2 player who did alright at IPL4. She even managed to beat <url=http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1589_DeMusliM>EG.DeMusliM, who is no slouch. He's not the greatest player in the world by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm pretty sure that she's the first female pro gamer to make it to a major tournament. She even won herself a minor tournament just to get invited to IPL4.

I've seen her play, and she is pretty good.

I remember that quote from that sexist Bakhtanians way back when:

You can?t. You can?t because they?re one and the same thing. This is a community that?s, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it?s not the fighting game community--it?s StarCraft

Never made me happier to be a diehard Starcraft player.

 

[Deadyawn]

You know, I feel like I want to make a bunch of incisive and witty comments about the nature of gender disparity regarding video games but A) I don't play online multiplayer and B) I literaly do not know anyone IRL who plays games on a regular basis, male or female. So I have absolutely no way in which to enter this discussion.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

i'm not getting mad and never said i considered any of what i said negative.

many who enter the peer group will develop a love of games and the culture surrounding it but its not going to make the 40 year old women i know who had 90+ stars on super mario world suddenly develop a burning desire for gothic like make-up, black tea shirts with something gaming related on it, sometimes bizzare hair colors and anime and cute cartoons.

Congratulations you just described me. I'm 30. I played Space invaders until it ran out of zeros on the Atari 2600 (not literally). pew pew pew pew.

Hatters gonna hat.

and here i am having edited it back from being perhaps a little too specific...

hehe

I kind of understand what you are getting at but I don't think you can just arbitrarily rule that someone isn't a gamer just because they have rainbow hair.

Everyone wants to belong in society and I don't think there is any harm in letting young girls identify themselves with the geek crowd.