I'm not sure that it's they can't science, there are some real world animals who have more armored skin and specific kinds of skin oils that make them more resistant to electric shock. It's that they're playing such potentials to fantasy levels. Star Wars is very much soft science fiction, which generally means it has a pinch of real science, but plays by it's own rules with science too.Something Amyss said:
What you described in Star Wars in no way relates to how animals resist electricity and doesn't translate. That's the point. It's a pseudoscience technobable explanation. It's not even "soft science," it's magic. Which would be fine--if they freaking called it magic. But they try and come up with in-depth sciencey explanations, even for the freaking Force itself. This isn't soft science fiction--it's stupid science fiction.KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Oh I agree, the process of building the saber is loaded with mythic potential, and some great roleplaying descriptions. I mean just check this bit out.Something Amyss said:
That's actually the entire point of "soft science fiction" it's not that it's "soft scince" or actually science at all, it might dabble with real world scientific concepts on the surface. Still "soft sci-fi" is really more or less futuristic fantasy, no matter what dumb in universe handwaves the use to explain things that happen in the fiction. That's kind of the point, they play with basic face value concepts of science as magical fantasy in universe. It's dumb, yeah, but it's the fun kind of dumb. Basically just jargon as a thin vernier for fantasy hand wave.Something Amyss said:
First off, casting aspersions on someone who basically agrees with you isn't called for. Science Fiction snobbery against soft science fiction isn't constructive either, because the sub genre is basically fantasy.He Rode Alone said:
All I said is that they take real world concepts and bend, or break them to make a story. Never counted it as being reality... Also you're not trashing the story, but you are equating science fiction to science fact, which as Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle would tell you, doesn't reflect reality. All sci-fi is basically fantasy.He Rode Alone said:
I'm not saying anything about the franchise is fact, you are, so you find those references that fit the canon. All I ever said is they bend a concept to fit their fictions. Like all of science fiction does, no matter it's actual accuracy.He Rode Alone said:
Oh you didn't? Really?He Rode Alone said:
Really? Emphasis mine, your whole statement about insinuating that I disrespected science is right bloody there in your own words. I call bullshit on that statement. When it comes right down to it, I can science, I can parse fantasy from reality, but apparently all you want to do is call me out on perceived injustices. No thank you, you put words in my mouth, so have fun being on my ignore list.He Rode Alone said:
Orange is a thing in the old cannon...but its only used by Jedi of MASSIVE physical strength like Lowbacca (Chewie's nephew).Fijiman said:
There's been heaps of attempts to explain the colours. From Job roles to fighting styles. I tend to prefer that it was a personal choice.Souplex said:
That is a dumb saying and people should stop using it, cause it makes no sense. I mean what the fuck else are you going to with a cake besides eat it.TheRightToArmBears said:
The phrase is contradictory because once you eat the cake you no longer have it, so having your cake and eating it isn't about a sequence of events, it's about trying to do both at the same time. Basically you want to have a piece of cake and eat it but still have the same cake you just ate to eat again in the future.Lunar Templar said:
