Looks like LulzSec is in trouble

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I'm not calling curtains on this. If this guy was a member of Lulzsec, how would he give the information of others to the FBI? I bet you none of them gave each other personal information because of this.

 

[GrimHeaper]

I think we should all note that, this guy is simply been charged. He is innocent before PROVEN guilty in a court of law. We can't just go around assuming everyone the government locks up is automatically guilty.

They seem to not get that it's wrong.

 

[rapidoud]

But doesn't their ability to simply snatch info from servers as easily as they did show how irresponsibly corporations treat their customers? These hackers have reinforced the idea that companies don't give two shits about your personal information.

Even if Sony has the most secure system across the 3 main console developers, you'll still say this?

Even if someone steals the Mona Lisa from de Louvre you'll still call it insecure and not giving 2 shits about da Vinci?

Zzz... some days.

 

[Ickorus]

Im sick of the hackers and the people defending the hackers, im just sick of all this bullshit.

How can you even begin to defend a bunch of self-centered egotistical asshats who's only goal in life is to bring misery to others for their own amusement, don't you fuckers even realise how many people are affected by these tossers hacking Sony and other corporations? Sony isn't one big self-aware lump, it's made up of thousands upon thousands of good, hard-working men and women and all these hacker groups are doing is risking the livelihoods of these people for their own amusement.

There is no greater good in what they are doing, only cruelty and selfishness.

 

[Vykrel]

Honestly I'm rooting for lulzsec. They are willing to show these people how poorly these companies defend themselves, which is needed.

in doing that, they are ruining if for ALL PSN users. they took millions of peoples' favorite hobby away from them for an entire month, and theyre still screwing with those people.

Sony may be the target, but the gamers are the real victims

 

[LandoCristo]

A company is supposed to protect that info... It's still partly Sony's fault don't give that "but anyone can be hacked" excuse if that was truly true why have defenses at all.

Any company can be hacked though.

Did you know that most cyber crime of this nature goes unreported? Companies get cracked all the time and they pay the crackers money for them to go away, it's a blackmail operation mostly and you'd be shocked if you knew how many companies get targeted.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/06/06/many-cyber-attacks-go-unreported

That's a rather nice magazine piece. I've been taught all this because our tutors think that network security is going to be our main concern when we enter the workplace.

Now Sony's case is particularly problematic because the criminals are doing it for fun, most crackers do a cost/benefit analysis and if the company can't/won't pay, is too ahrd to crack or the information isn't worth taking they won't do it. Lulzsec are doing it for fun. No matter how hard it is, no matter how much it costs and no matter how worthless what they take is they'll do it because they're doing it for a laugh, there is no way to dissuade them.

Imagine a criminal wants to nick your laptop: they'll look at the sale value of it, how tight your home security is and how likely it is they can sell it quick.

Now imagine that criminal wants your laptop no matter what the cost. Alarms won't stop him, he doesn't need to resell it and he doesn't care how much time he spends stealing it as long as he gets it. unlike the practically minded criminal committing the crime is the end-game, no further considerations will temper their desire to commit it because they just want to do it.

Network security is like burglar alarms and barbed wire; it acts as a deterrent for almost every criminal because it makes the job ridiculously difficult and there are always easier places to break in to for the same reward. BUT if someone decides they want to break in anyway those things are NOT going to stop them!

Nice analogy. I'm tired of people blaming Sony's weak defenses for the hack, and not that fact that there is nothing that is completely un-hackable.

 

[Pendragon9]

I hate how everyone is rooting for Lulzsec. He and Geohot are scum who deserve anything the courts throw at them.

"HUR DUR SONY IS BEING EVIL AND GREEDY SO WE'RE GONNA BE EVIL AND GREEDY RIGHT BACK LULZ EPIC WIN XDXDXD"

 

[ejb626]

LulzSec is such an asinine name.

I don't know what to think of these guys. I don't agree with their methods. Even if their motives are honest they're going about it in a stupid way. That stupid meme/4 chan way of speaking pisses me off too.

To be honest I'd be happy if these guys were brought down. Not because I dislike them to any great degree but because they seem far too arrogant for their own good and a hefty backhand slap across the face would be in their best interests.

I've got to say - showing companies that their security isn't up to scratch is a positive. Doing it by stealing customer information? Not cool. How about stealing something that doesn't turn both the company and its customers into the victims?

This, this is why I hate Lulzsec with a passion. There are plenty of hacker collectives like Anon. But when Anon makes an attack you don't see them flaunting it like a Halo teabagger these guys are so god damn cocky it pisses me off. I hope that the FBI really did get the right guy and Lulzsec are just attempting to keep up the cocky act to make people think they're untouchable.

 

[Dirzzit]

For once, the FBI does something... WHEN IT IS NOT AT ALL A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY. STOP focusing on petty hackers who spend their time hacking SONY of all companies, and START actually LOOKING for AL QUEIDA, who want to KILL US.

Yes, because they can only do one thing at a time. -_-

 

[The Stonker]

Then Sony gets hacked from a prison computer where a Lulzsec member is...

 

[Deathninja19]

For once, the FBI does something... WHEN IT IS NOT AT ALL A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY. STOP focusing on petty hackers who spend their time hacking SONY of all companies, and START actually LOOKING for AL QUEIDA, who want to KILL US.

Right you're either stupid or misinformed about what the FBI does I'm not sure, but I'm thinking stupid due to the caps. I can't even be bothered to point out all the wrong here.

 

[BabySinclair]

Sony may be douchebags for going back on things but cyber crime is still a fucking crime. Seriously? If you disagree with a politician you don't root for a gun toting idiot to try and shoot them. They tried to compromise millions of persons' credit card and personal information, do you know just how bad identity theft can screw someone's life over for decades?

Popping into their network and telling them you can is an arguably noble action since it lets companies shore up their network defenses but stealing things from it and then publicly announce you're trying to offload them is one hell of a felony.

Glad the FBI got one (they're probably denying affiliations with all that get caught) and hope to see more of them getting picked up.

 

[Cridhe]

Sony may be douchebags for going back on things but cyber crime is still a fucking crime. Seriously? If you disagree with a politician you don't root for a gun toting idiot to try and shoot them. They tried to compromise millions of persons' credit card and personal information, do you know just how bad identity theft can screw someone's life over for decades?

Popping into their network and telling them you can is an arguably noble action since it lets companies shore up their network defenses but stealing things from it and then publicly announce you're trying to offload them is one hell of a felony.

Glad the FBI got one (they're probably denying affiliations with all that get caught) and hope to see more of them getting picked up.

They didn't get anyone. The story is false, something drummed up by 4chan.

 

[UnmotivatedSlacker]

Wow lighten up people, they only hacked Sony and Nintendo, it's not like they hacked anything a PC game gives a crusty fuck about...

...Wow, you haven't been paying much attention to what this group has been doing at all.