Lucas Re-Releasing Star Wars Movies in 3D

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mageroel

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Sounds like somebody wanted to earn more money in an easy way - I hear it costs less than you earn from it when you make it 3D, so hell, why not? I hate 3D!! At least for the movies in which it doesn't add anything but stylish glasses on everyone and 'tired' eyes afterwards.
 

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I don't know if I'm just being old school when I say, When did all the movies being released have to be in 3D?
I understand that it's new technology, but seriously? Some things don't need to be in 3D.
Perfect example: Jackass 3D; What the HELL would you need to show in 3D that you couldn't see regularly? Do I really need Steve-O or Johnny Knoxville coming out of the screen? Hell no! Keep those d-bags as far away as possible from the general population.
 

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Digikid said:
You are welcome to your opinion but it is you that is incorrect. The prequels did have good tight stories. The only reason why ppl did not like them is because they were different.

Difference is a GOOD thing.
Wrong.

Taste is subjective. But objectively speaking, and I mean undeniable "look at it if you doubt it" standard (and this is true for each of the three movies of the "prequel" ):

- Have more plot holes than things that connect.
- The pacing is terrible. You have really long periods of completely emotionless people talking about arbitrary and plot-irrelevant dribble. Then extremely long highly choreographed fights with the emotional depth of a tea spoon that drag on and on and on and on... Most of the fights end up becoming boring, namely the big Obi Wan Vs. Anakin in the third movie, that goes on for so fucking long it actually becomes dull...
- Storytelling is terrible, relying heavily on direct exposition instead of weaving the narrative into the actual action (which the first 3 movies did).
- Plots range from non-existent to terrible: Phantom Menace is an amalgamate mess that makes absolutely no sense and has next to no real story [http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/12/17/watch-this-70-minute-video-review-of-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/], best summarized as "dumbed down first part of Episode I + Mario Kart". Attack of the Clones has, almost literally, 5 fucking minutes of relevant story to it. You can actually not watch this movie entirely, and all you really miss is one fucking dialog that can be entirely bypassed by having a friend tell you the relevant issue part before the start of the third movie. And finally, Revenge of the Sith, the movie that had, by far, the most potential out of the entire pile of shit that was the "new" trilogy, is best summarized as "Anakin is given an untold honor and is allowed to join the council earlier than anyone else in history as an exception. Anakin doesn't receive instant and unconditional acceptance by the most powerful Jedi masters alive, all of which had to work their asses off to get to that place. Anakin instantly goes Emo and joins the dark side. Lots of random fights happen throughout the movie so Lucas can show how cool his CGI has gotten."

In essence, people who, like you, claim "they're all good movies!" are Georgy's direct target. People who can't recognize a good movie and are easily swayed and distracted by fireworks and glowy things. Anyone with half a brain can tell you there was a very significant shift in George's "focus" in the movies.

The first movies weren't good because the lightsaber fights were amazing, or because of epically choreographed fight scenes and battles that extend throughout the world... They were all about the story. They had an interesting story, told by interesting, fleshed out and relateable characters in emotionally involving situations. The special effects were just means to deliver that. Go look at those movies again. There are a whole 3 or 4 lightsaber fight scenes in the whole trilogy. The horrible Obi Wan Vs. Anakin fight by itself lasts longer than all lightsaber fights of the original trilogy combined. And yet, any of those 3 or 4 fights in the original trilogy carries more depth and "content" by itself than the entire "new" trilogy movies put together. The problem is that the "George Lucas" that made the "new" trilogy isn't the same George Lucas that set out to tell the original space epic. This is a new George that's more concerned about showing how cool his CGI is. "Look at me mom. Look at what I can do now!". Fuck all the substance, just tack on more glowy shit...

You may love them, but by any objective standards, the "new" movies are junk.
 

linkzeldi

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I would make a comment about beating a dead horse, but I'm sure six pages full of people have beaten me too it.
 

JaredXE

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I had this whole dramatic thing ready to write, then I took a deep breath and thought about this.


I'm not going to see it. Simple as that. People who are children and idiots will see it in Eye-Strain-O-Vision-fake-3D, and that is all. I could rant and rage, but it doesn't matter. It's happening, get over it. I watched Return of the Jedi in 1983 when I was two, been a fan practically all my life, and I just don't give a fuck anymore.


And neither should any of you.
 

mike1921

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Caliostro said:
Digikid said:
You are welcome to your opinion but it is you that is incorrect. The prequels did have good tight stories. The only reason why ppl did not like them is because they were different.

Difference is a GOOD thing.
boring, namely the big Obi Wan Vs. Anakin in the third movie, that goes on for so fucking long it actually becomes dull...
That part I disagree with. I thought that was the only good fight in the prequals

Also, that red letter media guy with the 70 minute videos, he does other really long reviews too. He did one for clone wars, will do one for revenge of the sith, and did all the TNG movies, and I know he's done others
 

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Digikid said:
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Digikid said:
You guys are a bunch of whiners. Seriously.

Also ALL of the movies were good....so quit whining about bad ones when there WERE NO BAD ONES.
This is quite simply wrong, the originals had tight stories and were proof that when a man doesn't have total creative control, a good movie can be made.

The prequels however show how much George Lucas was kept in check by other creative influences in the originals. The new films have awkward acting, the actors are for the most part horribly miscast, the dialogue is ham-fisted and awkward, the story is full of plot conveniences, most of the time they make no sense and totally don't convey anything the original trilogy was attempting to tell us.

Yeah? Anakain and Obi-Wan are friends? Sure didn't seem that way to me. Leia knew her mum? Too bad she died 20 seconds after she was born.
You are welcome to your opinion but it is you that is incorrect. The prequels did have good tight stories. The only reason why ppl did not like them is because they were different.

Difference is a GOOD thing.
So, you're approach is "your opinion is wrong but mine isn't."

Well, your opinion is welcome as well, but it is your opinion that is incorrect. The prequels had terrible stories that were ultimately boring, had a dull script, and had uninspired characters.

Am I doing it right?
 

Kuchinawa212

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I dunno...I like my star wars. 3D might be cool. And I was hearing about this long ago. (in galaxy far far away)
 

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rockyoumonkeys said:
Space Jawa said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
This is James Cameron's fault.
Hardly. I'm pretty dang sure that Lucas has been eager to get the films translated to 3D since well before the current 3D madness got started. I can recall a story from even before Monsters vs. Aliens came out which stated he was eager to pull this off, he's just been waiting till the conditions are right.
But he hadn't done it. James Cameron's the one most responsible for the wild popularity of 3D right now, the one who made it marketable.

Without the success of Avatar, Lucas does not do this.
Sure he would have.

He wants to release a 3D version of Star Wars, so sooner or later the films would have come out in 3D, Cameron's Avatar or not. It may have taken longer for the process to get underway, but it would have come eventually.

Jaded Scribe said:
Because there is a certain magic about seeing it on a screen several stories high.
Exactly. And not every showing of a film is overcrowded or filled with annoying kids. Being able to watch a movie in theaters with the right crowd is an experience that no home theater system in the world can even hope to compare to. Ever.

BJ777 said:
George Lucas,

THE STAR WARS FRANCHISE IS OVER, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, JUST LET GO!!!
On the contrary, Star Wars the force unleashed game(s) is pretty good and I have a feeling that The Old Republic is gonna be pretty good.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars and your own statement about the games says otherwise.

Jbird said:
Let me specify then: Why would anyone want to go rewatch these Star Wars movies, in 3D no less, in a theater when you can stay home with a home theater system? It's just another weak excuse for Lucas to make more money.
You want to point me in the direction where they sell movie-theater sized TV screens?

Jaded Scribe said:
Because some of us find it fun to go to movie theaters.
This too.

I'm pretty sure there's a quote from "The Majestic" that sums up my thoughts on why watching movies in movie theaters is better than watching at home, too.

Frankly, I'd be going to watch the re-release whether or not it was in 3D. Did the same when they re-released Toy Story 1 & 2 last year as well.

rockyoumonkeys said:
I'm more likely to believe that Cameron personally convinced Lucas to do this than I am to believe he's "probably face palming as much as any of us."
Like I said, Cameron is not behind this - Lucas was for 3D before 3D was big.

jebussaves88 said:
and two good indiana jones movies,
Wait...two Indiana Jones movies? Which of the original are you not a fan of? Because of the original three, I prefer Raiders and Crusade.



A little question I'm wondering, though, for all those who are hating on Lucas for being greedy and rehashing things. If the Star Wars saga was owned by Fox or some other film studio rather than Lucas himself, can anyone honestly say they believe that said studio wouldn't be looking at doing the exact same thing? Or, perhaps, considering a seventh movie (or third trilogy) made specifically to capitalize on 3D? Or perhaps that we'd already have the original trilogy having received remakes of who knows what quality? Or perhaps an announcement that the studio was planning on remaking the original trilogy "In 3D!"? Or a dozen other sequels?

If you think Lucas has been milking Star Wars, just think of what state it would be in if it wasn't Lucas' call on what happens to the franchise. Compared to what normally happens to successful film franchises, I think Lucas has been relatively restrained.
 

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rockyoumonkeys said:
Firia said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
This is James Cameron's fault.
If it was any other movie and any other director, I'd agree with you. But it's George Lucas! One of our (once) great-GREAT movie minds! The guy had a could create whatever he wanted to, but instead he chooses to milk a dead cow. Once upon a time, Cameron probably looked up to George. No, this isn't Jame Camerons fault. Cameron is probably face palming as much as any of us.
Why would you think that? Cameron's proven repeatedly that he's the same kind of director as Lucas. He's recut and/or re-released a number of his own movies. And Cameron is 3D's biggest proponent. I'm more likely to believe that Cameron personally convinced Lucas to do this than I am to believe he's "probably face palming as much as any of us."

Make no mistake, Cameron thinks this is a great idea.
Mostly because Cameron is still making new movies. He has a department to rehash old dvds, but Cameron is still making new movies. Lucas, however, doesn't make new movies. The 4th Indy movie is almost an exception, in that it's a new movie, but it's an old property. He's still living off of his old properties for the most part. Cameron has been working on Avatar since forever, but still has released unique movies like Steve Izuzu (forget the exact spelling), and has plans to release other movies. Lucas made Star Wars, and Indiana Jones, and not much else.

Not to mention, Lucas is notorious for releasing, re-releasing, re-re-releasing his star wars property. If there's a new format, or new way to see his star wars movies, he'll release a version just for it. Cameron, not so much. I imagine every director saw a spike in the birth of blu-ray and hd-dvd situation. But Cameron has not released 80 versions of his terminator franchise.
 

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Firia said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
Firia said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
This is James Cameron's fault.
If it was any other movie and any other director, I'd agree with you. But it's George Lucas! One of our (once) great-GREAT movie minds! The guy had a could create whatever he wanted to, but instead he chooses to milk a dead cow. Once upon a time, Cameron probably looked up to George. No, this isn't Jame Camerons fault. Cameron is probably face palming as much as any of us.
Why would you think that? Cameron's proven repeatedly that he's the same kind of director as Lucas. He's recut and/or re-released a number of his own movies. And Cameron is 3D's biggest proponent. I'm more likely to believe that Cameron personally convinced Lucas to do this than I am to believe he's "probably face palming as much as any of us."

Make no mistake, Cameron thinks this is a great idea.
Mostly because Cameron is still making new movies. He has a department to rehash old dvds, but Cameron is still making new movies. Lucas, however, doesn't make new movies. The 4th Indy movie is almost an exception, in that it's a new movie, but it's an old property. He's still living off of his old properties for the most part. Cameron has been working on Avatar since forever, but still has released unique movies like Steve Izuzu (forget the exact spelling), and has plans to release other movies. Lucas made Star Wars, and Indiana Jones, and not much else.

Not to mention, Lucas is notorious for releasing, re-releasing, re-re-releasing his star wars property. If there's a new format, or new way to see his star wars movies, he'll release a version just for it. Cameron, not so much. I imagine every director saw a spike in the birth of blu-ray and hd-dvd situation. But Cameron has not released 80 versions of his terminator franchise.
All of that is beside the point, which remains the same: first, Cameron is not "facepalming" this, he's the biggest 3D nutjob in the business, so he's in favor. And at the very least, the success of Avatar absolutely fast-tracked this Star Wars thing. Without Avatar, maybe Lucas does it, and maybe he doesn't. It still stands that Avatar is the main reason 3D is so popular right now.

Space Jawa said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
I'm more likely to believe that Cameron personally convinced Lucas to do this than I am to believe he's "probably face palming as much as any of us."
Like I said, Cameron is not behind this - Lucas was for 3D before 3D was big.
I wasn't actually suggesting Cameron was "behind this". I was merely saying it would be easier to believe he was than it would be to believe he was against this. Which is to say, it's not remotely believable that he's against this.

And sure, Lucas was "for 3D", whatever that's worth. And he hadn't done it yet, and there's never been any indication that he was planning on it any time soon. As I said, the success of Avatar and the resulting popularity of 3D is what made Lucas decide to do it NOW.
 

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*Pops in old VHS of Empire and enjoys original version*

The way it should be remembered for me.
 

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Just when I thought it was finally over, it was finally done, they bring it back again.

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How about instead of re-doing the films in 3D, Lucas edits out the parts with Jake Lloyde (young Anakin) and Hayden Christensen (PMS Anakin)? [sub]And Jar Jar...[/sub][sub][sub]And Natalie Portman[/sub][/sub] [sub][sub][sub]And how about all of the bad parts of the prequel[/sub][/sub][/sub]

I just can't imagine how the 3D effects could even improve the movies, let alone how bad the conversion will end up. Then the next step will likely be those animated shows and the CGI movie.

What happens when there's 4D? :p