LulzSec hacks Nintendo, takes control of the FBI, and challenges NATO

[Retosa]

Now don't get me wrong, I have no special love for Sony, i play on X-Box. But do you honestly think Sony, a multi-billion dollar international technology company doesn't have at least one IT guy with some hacking experience on board? The problem is as soon as you close one hole, another will open and some must be kept open to keep online commerce open. There is no prefect system. Not only that, being defensive means a they are reactionary, it is hard to be on the attack when you don't know who is going to hack next.

It is not just a simply black and white do this and be safe forever world they work in.

I agree, Sony needs to "up its game" if they want to continue. The initial attacks made their point. This is also a sign that we as people of the 21 century need to change our own attitudes of cyber security. Sony as well as everyone else (that includes Microsoft) needs to stiffen up there security, start trusting security experts instead of lawyers and treat there customers as business partners instead of possible criminals.

You saw that extra credits too then.

Also you misunderstood what I said. I was saying I have a feeling sony is already doing this, but it isn't as cut and dry as hire more goons and armed guards to stand in front of the servers.

They did hire at least three security firms somewhat recently to help revamp their security. However, I have no idea how long that takes (A month for PSN, but they had to completely recreate it), so I can't comment on if the security firms have been doing their jobs or not.

I prefer giving corporations the benefit of the doubt because no one else on this site will, and it gets boring if we all agree. Also speaking as a 29/almost 30 year old working a real 9-5 job processing information all day, and I know most people here are 20ish and in school. Recoding, pouring over lines of code, looking for ways to beef things up takes more than a light afternoon. Sony and other corporations will be fighting an ever changing beast to keep their services up and accessible to the customer.

Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but considering their entire database was pretty much emptied because of a simple bit of SQL Injection, and considering the passwords were in PLAINTEXT, it means that they didn't even do the MINIMUM required amount of work. This has nothing to do with pouring over code figuring out how to beef it up. However, I will confess that if I were to sit down at a security job like that, it wouldn't be "How do I beef this up?", it would be "What is this I don't even... Where do I start!?", followed by bringing the site down for 'planned maintenance' and grabbing some easily available (and free!) code that is more secure than that, followed by ensuring the passwords were encrypted. Considering even free access websites do a better job of securing themselves than that... I mean, seriously... SQL injection... Really.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Now don't get me wrong, I have no special love for Sony, i play on X-Box. But do you honestly think Sony, a multi-billion dollar international technology company doesn't have at least one IT guy with some hacking experience on board? The problem is as soon as you close one hole, another will open and some must be kept open to keep online commerce open. There is no prefect system. Not only that, being defensive means a they are reactionary, it is hard to be on the attack when you don't know who is going to hack next.

It is not just a simply black and white do this and be safe forever world they work in.

I agree, Sony needs to "up its game" if they want to continue. The initial attacks made their point. This is also a sign that we as people of the 21 century need to change our own attitudes of cyber security. Sony as well as everyone else (that includes Microsoft) needs to stiffen up there security, start trusting security experts instead of lawyers and treat there customers as business partners instead of possible criminals.

You saw that extra credits too then.

Also you misunderstood what I said. I was saying I have a feeling sony is already doing this, but it isn't as cut and dry as hire more goons and armed guards to stand in front of the servers.

They did hire at least three security firms somewhat recently to help revamp their security. However, I have no idea how long that takes (A month for PSN, but they had to completely recreate it), so I can't comment on if the security firms have been doing their jobs or not.

I prefer giving corporations the benefit of the doubt because no one else on this site will, and it gets boring if we all agree. Also speaking as a 29/almost 30 year old working a real 9-5 job processing information all day, and I know most people here are 20ish and in school. Recoding, pouring over lines of code, looking for ways to beef things up takes more than a light afternoon. Sony and other corporations will be fighting an ever changing beast to keep their services up and accessible to the customer.

Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but considering their entire database was pretty much emptied because of a simple bit of SQL Injection, and considering the passwords were in PLAINTEXT, it means that they didn't even do the MINIMUM required amount of work. This has nothing to do with pouring over code figuring out how to beef it up. However, I will confess that if I were to sit down at a security job like that, it wouldn't be "How do I beef this up?", it would be "What is this I don't even... Where do I start!?", followed by bringing the site down for 'planned maintenance' and grabbing some easily available (and free!) code that is more secure than that, followed by ensuring the passwords were encrypted. Considering even free access websites do a better job of securing themselves than that... I mean, seriously... SQL injection... Really.

Computer dicked up. Sorry about that. Anywho...

That's if you take a criminal organization's word at face value...and keep in mind, they've explicitly stated that they want to bring down Sony and discredit it.

On the other hand, Sony and a few security firms claim that Sony had pretty up to date security along with hashed information.

I'm going to side with Sony on this one, especially considering that LulzSec has proved to be capable of breaking into very secure networks with minimal trouble (They cracked IAA after all).

 

[Nyaliva]

LulzSec The Lulz Boat
By the way, we've received $110 in BitCoin donations and we just used some of it to buy a server with which to own things from. Badass, huh?

I think that pretty much says it all, LulzSec is a bunch of kids trying to be super badass by messing with people's internet (because that makes you badass how?) after they idolised Anonymous and then realised that Anonymous stands for something other than lulz. The fact that they attacked Sony after someone claimed it was Anonymous who took down the PSN (whether they did it or not is irrelevant, LulzSec likely believes it was them) shows that they're either trying to be seen as an equal threat as Anonymous or they're trying to say "See Anonymous, we can do it too! We don't need you to get lulz! We will have the last lulz!!!".

People are paying them for lulz, wanting to see shit happen. But attacking the FBI and declaring war against government organisations is going a bit far. I'm interested to see how this unfolds and the charges that'll be pressed against LulzSec...

 

[Nouw]

I never knew the logic that Jurassic Park applies to computer hacking applies in real-life!

 

[Lullabye]

I never knew the logic that Jurassic Park applies to computer hacking applies in real-life!

Best reference ever.
you win an internetz.

So yeah fuck LulzBoat/sec/whatever the fuck they are.

Are they seriously hacking sony AGAIN? Like leave them alone. yeah they're dicks but they make games I love.

 

[Agayek]

As mentioned, this'll be the second time they've hacked the FBI. As much as I hate to admit it, LulzSec is either just that good...or the FBI is just that bad.

Almost certainly it's a mix of both. LulzSec is clearly good at what they do, but the FBI should be capable of tracking them down.

 

[Womplord]

Well I lol'd. I guess they achieved their goal. it IS pretty funny, you have to admit...

 

[SillyBear]

I'd love to be one of the feds who rips up the fourth amendment and kicks down this twat's door.

Question. I am pretty ignorant about hacking and computers, but couldn't they just trace the person from the twitter account? Doesn't the FBI have technology to find out pretty much who you are and where you live from your computer, even if you are using a proxy?

 

[Yarkaz]

I really like Anonymous. Their hacking is a good kind, which promotes freedom of information, something sorely lacking almost every society in history. When I see an article about Anonymous hacking something or someone, I get a bit happy inside instead of annoyed. While I will admit that they're a time bomb waiting to explode, they do good here and now.

That being said, I really hate these LulzSec prats. They don't seem to have any major goals, other than screwing over as many people as possible for a few laughs that honestly, nobody is laughing at. Stealing credit card information and taking down major internet services is hurting the public as well as the major corporations they claim to target, which seems counterproductive to me.

If you're going to break laws, do it for a good, meaningful reason. Otherwise you're just a puffed up version of that kid with his pants halfway to the ground spraying graffiti on a bathroom wall. Except instead of spray paint you have a keyboard, and instead of a bathroom wall you have very powerful people capable of tracking and screwing you completely.

 

[Purple Shrimp]

anonymous does something wacky, pretends they are important
film at 11

 

[thahat]

Sounds like someone is getting to big for their britches. They do know messing with the FBI means going to federal fuck you in the ass prison right? And while not to stereotype, most hackers are the big and tough type that could hold their own in a prison yard.

As mentioned, this'll be the second time they've hacked the FBI. As much as I hate to admit it, LulzSec is either just that good...or the FBI is just that bad.

Patients son. I don't know if you understand how tracking people down works, it isn't easy to see, "oh hay, we're getting haxored! Look, it is lolcatz. -_- Lets drive down and get them." It will take a few months if not a year or so. But the FBI is paid to be relentless and will find the guys and toss them in prison.

oh yes, cause in ip is a person /not
any legal people in here? could you, in court, without litteraly saying who you are or without them getting a keylogger on you to see what facebook or msn you log into, ever find out WHO you are, and make anything in court stick? hell, there are so damn many loopholes imaginable.

 

[kypsilon]

Why is it that people are so enamored with the idea of striking down those people charged with the safety and security of the people they are trying to protect? The FBI are out there trying to solve crimes and stop rapists and murderers from doing it again, whilst hackers are all about trying to show that the database they use is not up to suff.

Grow up. The only people you hurt are the ones who've already lost the people most important to them. You're not heroes, you're terrorists, you're not cool, you're not Robin Hood, you're kids with no concept of the consequences of your actions.

 

[Peter Davis]

In x years time when there are all sorts of internet laws and restrictions, and the goverment will use the internet against us, let it be known that I fucking called it.

Keep rocking the boat, we are all gonna end up sinking, douschebag hackers, anonymous and innocent internet users alike.

this. That is all.

 

[Fwee]

I've got to say:
GO FOR THE GLORY, LULZSEC!!! YOU GOT 'EM ON THE ROPES KID!!!
Just because it's something interesting. I wish these weren't quotes: "You see, I'm an entropy fan." George Carlin "I'm an agent of Chaos." Joker, The Dark Knight
I might actually be hoping they can hack far enough into someone's system that they can actually start launching missiles. What have I got to lose?
I'm not doubting they'll eventually get caught, but in the process the FBI might just wind up pissing off a whole lot of other hackers and making it a worldwide cluster-frack, and that's the kind of news that I find entertaining.

 

[Fwee]

Personally I think the only possible way to put the Internet on lockdown (lockdown gets spell-checked?)would be Complete Dismantlement. It would possibly be most cost effective with a series of large EMP's. Then it's time for rebuilding.
Think of the jobs that would generate...
And the chaos...
At least CAPTCHA would disappear.
What a good thing.

 

[kebab4you]

At 8:40PM EST, LulzSec finally launched their attack on FBI affiliate Infragard Atlanta and brought the site down, replacing it with a video meme, claiming how skilled they were. In addition, LulzSec claims that the attack was because of the recently stances taken against hacking by the US Government and NATO as well as declaring their attack on Infragard Atlanta to be an act of war against those two organizations.


Edit 7: Everyone worried that the recent string of hacks would lead to Governments taking away internet freedoms? Get to worrying.

Oh the Lulz guys are fucked. They are so dead. Rather than be classy and just make a bit of fun of the guys they took down...they parade their skills and issue a declaration of war?

...Yeah, not only are THEY screwed, but the whole damn internet is. And everyone on it.

Prepare. to. Get. the. Government's. boot. up. our. butts.

Because the internet is strictly in the U.S right? T.T" As much of a bully you are I doubt they will be able to enforce any such law over in Europe or other nation.

 

[Tax_Document]

I give them two weeks, then we'll never hear from them again.