Lulzsec Members Are Going To Jail

[Caiphus]

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Quick question; What make you think I care about anything you have to say about me or my opinions on things hmm?

I don't know you past your postings on this site, nor have I had a desire to expand past that, and even then your not some one who's opinion I value in the least, much like almost every one else on this site, there's a few people I'll listen to, but you aren't one of them.

And you think telling me to 'shut up' cause you don't like what I'm saying is going to get me to comply? Really? That's 'interesting'

I've already washed my hands of this thread, I've said everything I've intended to say, be it right or wrong is for you to mull and eventually get over, I'm nether changing anything said or apologizing for it, as I'm not beholden to you, or any other poster on this site.

If you can not handle that, feel free to go up to my name and block me, then you won't have to see my posts again.

Wow, and for a second it looked as though you were against people who exhibit self-absorbed behaviour.

I'm all for criminal justice, but advocating the sexual torture of people in prison is absolutely morally abhorrent, especially (and I hesitate to use the word especially because the standard should be applied to all offenders) against those who have committed non-violent crimes.

I cannot fully express just how jaded, unfair, immoral, sadistic and wrong it is to un-ironically hope for rape to be committed on non-violent offenders, as if their being in prison somehow makes it ok, and then furthermore to react negatively and antagonistically when someone reminds you to be a human being . Should they continue to be raped once they get out of prison? Or is the get-out-of-rape-free card only supposed to extend for the length of the court order?

Just incredible. Just unbelievable.

 

[Casual Shinji]

All your jailtime are belong to you.

 

[Neonit]

well... you know.... prisons....

ALL YOUR ASS ARE BELONG TO US!

lol

but yeah, seems reasonable.

 

[the clockmaker]

Well, this is what happens when people allow themselves to think that just because they are on the internet they are invincible. The government will take you and take you hard and the government has a great big...

-the remainder of this post has been redacted by the committee for public decency.-

 

[Fodder Aplenty]

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why should gender even matter in this?

they where self absorbed little shits that broke the law, and taunted the authority's, and now, they're getting off WAY to easy, with the longest sentence just shy of 3 years. No, not good enough 5 years, min, no computer access during jail time, and 5 year with out computer access after release.

THAT would be 'fair', after all, you commit a crime with a gun, you lose your right to own one, i don't see why computers should be any different, what with the potential damage scale being even higher.

Because he's got a damn point, people would be appalled to the idea of women getting raped over a crime, but you'd wish mentally and physically scarring torment on a few egotistical shits. Please take 5 minutes to imagine something repeatedly forced into your rear without lubricant and try and tell me that isn't going to cause life long damage, because that's what you're wishing on them. There's an awful lot wrong about wishing that.

Chances are that they'll be monitored once they get out anyway, and considering you can barely survive without a computer these days, it'd be like taking away their ability to write.

Think things through before spewing all that pent up spite. At the end of the day, Governments have done considerably worse to their own people than taking down a few websites for a little while, and being a bit of a dick, y'know, like outright slaughtering people, yet they get away scot free.

Jesus people, this comments section is disgusting.

Have you never thought to yourself "god, he is so annoying, i just want to strangle him!"? because thats all that is happening here. he doesn't mean it.

 

[Meatspinner]

I just googled their names and you guys can rest easy. They are far to ugly to get the rape treatment.

Spoiler

 

[Sansha]

I think the sentences are fair enough. Considering the crime, I think it's fair enough that they are deprived of their freedom, and are shown that their actions are actually having serious consequences. More than anything, I look at it more than a 'don't fucking do this' warning.

If they were real hackers, they'd have gotten away with this, and actually snagged some sweet loot for their efforts. These idiots are just self-glorified script writers.

Of course the leader betrayed the rest of them. This kind of shit isn't worth a higher sentence, that's for damn sure.

 

[Talaris]

Am I right in thinking that these were the guys who hacked the Playstation Network and Valve's Steam platform? That was the only thing that worried me at the time, I remember getting a phone call from a friend of mine telling me to reset my passwords and take off any personal data you can. Felt a little too close to home back then.


Regarding their sentence, I don't even want to pretend I know exactly how much punishment these guys deserve for their crimes. Maybe I'm missing something, but last time I checked this was not a forum for lawyers, yet some here seem to believe they know better than the actual justice system.

 

[nat_401]

Its good that people who think they are above getting caught are being punished, but its a shame all the trash on the escapist are advocating a pro rape stance on prisoners. You are filthy, dirty and far beneath simple minded hackers being pricks.

 

[Albino Boo]

Hey, that top one looks like Yorkshire!

Are you sure they'll get category Ds? Often you end up moving around multiple prisons: a stay in a B or C (something like the second one), then moved to a D for release (the one in the top picture).

Either way, I can't imagine them enjoying their stay much. The worst part about (UK) prisons are the perpetual boredom and the infliction upon dignity and independence.

First time nonviolent offenders eligible for parole in 2 and half months or so, I'm pretty sure they will get Cat D. Maybe a week in B or C for assessment but a couple of months gardening in the summer months is the worse they have to face.

 

[Radoh]

Oh right, I forgot they were a thing.
Maybe instead of fighting for their lulz they should have been fighting for relevance.

 

[HellbirdIV]

"This is not about young immature men messing about," Prosecutor Sandip Patel said. "They are at the cutting edge of a contemporary and emerging species of criminal offender known as a cybercriminal."

Okay, that's a little bit excessive. They broke the law: That's all we need to know. Do we really need to create a label to justify it to ourselves?

 

[Danny Ocean]

EVERYTHING LOLSEC DID WAS ILLEGAL.

LEGALITY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS MORALITY. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

They broke the law: That's all we need to know. Do we really need to create a label to justify it to ourselves?

Fucking yes we do.

What is with all these morons dismissing their fellow man just because they broke the law. Jeez.

 

[Strazdas]

4 loudmouths got jailed while the real people behind got away. sounds like a nice deal

Didn't they also hack Escapist during their cyber crime spree?

Edit: Anyways, I'm glad the prosecutor took 2 years of their lives to finally say "Yep. You're going to jail." Have fun.

I believe the escapist crash was attributed to some splinter of Anonymous and not the core Lulz themselves.

 

[HellbirdIV]

What is with all these morons dismissing their fellow man just because they broke the law. Jeez.

It's simply an understanding civilized people have that the law is there for a reason.

 

[kailus13]

Think things through before spewing all that pent up spite. At the end of the day, Governments have done considerably worse to their own people than taking down a few websites for a little while, and being a bit of a dick, y'know, like outright slaughtering people, yet they get away scot free.

Jesus people, this comments section is disgusting.

Seconded

As much as I agree with you, you should probably add a bit more to your post to avoid a warning for low content.

They'll probably go to a minimum security prison for a few months before being released, but they'll be monitored for a long time beyond that. Their lives aren't being ruined by this.

 

[Danny Ocean]

It's simply an understanding civilized people have that the law is there for a reason.

And what reason is that, oh civiliser of barbarians like myself? For however else shall I possibly divine the true purpose of the state and its laws, but by asking you?

 

[TKretts3]

EVERYTHING LOLSEC DID WAS ILLEGAL.

LEGALITY IS NOT THE SAME THING AS MORALITY. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

They broke into and denied access to people's property, stole private and sensitive information, and released that private and sensitive information publicly. They broke certain systems - which took time and money to fix - invaded government/military computers, and one had pedophilia material on his computer.

If you want to make a case as to how that's not morally wrong, then be my guest.

 

[Danny Ocean]

They broke into and denied access to people's property, stole private and sensitive information, and released that private and sensitive information publicly. They broke certain systems - which took time and money to fix - invaded government/military computers, and one had pedophilia material on his computer.

If you want to make a case as to how that's not morally wrong, then be my guest.

There are degrees of wrongness, which is why we don't have the death penalty or freedom as the only two options.

Earlier, the person I quoted was advocating life imprisonment for these people, purely on the argument that they broke the law.

That is a terrible argument, because the punishment should fit the morality of the crime.

 

[Zanderinfal]

Ok, I laughed. Alot. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say. They have no regard for others (at least from what I have seen) and are just outright dicks.

Capatcha: "Stop wasting time" Ok cappy, whatever you say.