LulzSec Nabs Source Code for Sony Dev Site

Belzera

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TheBadGamer said:
Dear hackers...



Please.
Awesome picture.

But yeah, this is getting beyond stupid now, yes Sony need to beef up security on their sites, we get that, but this is just a dick move by these hackers that will probably end with them getting hacked.

Does anyone actually think these HAckers are working for the customers benefit? I mean didn't they ask for Donations?
 

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Belzera said:
TheBadGamer said:
Dear hackers...



Please.
Awesome picture.

But yeah, this is getting beyond stupid now, yes Sony need to beef up security on their sites, we get that, but this is just a dick move by these hackers that will probably end with them getting hacked.

Does anyone actually think these HAckers are working for the customers benefit? I mean didn't they ask for Donations?
They got a huge donation from some guy earlier today. 7200$
 

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Belzera said:
Does anyone actually think these HAckers are working for the customers benefit? I mean didn't they ask for Donations?
Why does this "argument" keep being brought up? It has been obvious from the very beginning that this group of hackers doesn't care about the customers. The fact that customers are affected by their hacks is just collateral damage that they really don't give two hoots about.

I support not so much the group, but the repercussions of their actions. Hopefully this will make it clear that the internet is not separate from the "real world". It's about time all companies, not just game/console developers, understand that the internet can and does have power.

Making a cruel example out of a company that clearly does not want to learn its lesson is a way to bring this point across.
 

Kinichie

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What is your point Lulzsec. Freedom of Speech or something, I don't actually think all these hacks class as Freedom of Speech anymore, more just criminal activities. Enjoy pound me in the ass prison when it comes to you.
 

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wait, we've been having so many news updates recently I've lost track. Is Lulzsec responsible for the big hack last month against Sony?
 

Sarah Frazier

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Nothing new to see here, people. Just keep moving along.

Seriously, though. We all know by now that Sony has a paper bag for security. People should already be watching their bank statements for strange purchases and being more careful when buying new Sony services that require personal info to register. More hacks aren't going to do anything but get some groans from more mature groups or howler monkey hoots from the kiddies who still think it's the biggest thing happening.
 

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Dude, someone give Sony a break...They've already taken enough to piss to last a lifetime.
 

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Kinichie said:
What is your point Lulzsec. Freedom of Speech or something, I don't actually think all these hacks class as Freedom of Speech anymore, more just criminal activities. Enjoy pound me in the ass prision when it comes to you.
Where on earth do you get "Freedom of Speech" as Lulzsec's motivation? Lulzsec =/= Anonymous.

Lulzsec is trying to uncover the crappy security at Sony as retaliation for what they believe is bad behaviour.
 

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Fuck it, I don't know what annoys me more. The fact that Sony can't seem to sort out their damn security, or that these people keep hacking Sony over and over again.
 

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fundayz said:
Kinichie said:
What is your point Lulzsec. Freedom of Speech or something, I don't actually think all these hacks class as Freedom of Speech anymore, more just criminal activities. Enjoy pound me in the ass prision when it comes to you.
Where on earth do you get "Freedom of Speech" as Lulzsec's motivation? Lulzsec =/= Anonymous.

Lulzsec is trying to uncover the crappy security at Sony as retaliation for what they believe is bad behaviour.
To me, they are one and the same. Effectively the same bandwagon.

They've uncovered it. They've hacked it. The fact is they keep going, while all the while publishing users personal details and not giving a damn that they are causing damage to peoples lives. And they blame the users for putting trust in Sony in the first place. At what point does it stop being Sonys fault, or the CONSUMER's fault(?) and start being theirs for criminally hacking into a database, and displaying a load of personal details they have stolen.
 

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There is nothing on the dev site that is of any interest to anyone. Seriously, the heaps of technical docs, etc. would give someone a broad understanding of how the PS3 works - in terms of data transit, computations, etc.

Mostly, however, this site is used for product submission, technical requirement publishing, and Q&A with Sony DevSupport.

This isn't customer facing. There's nothing financial going on with developers on this site. Your personal information isn't stored there.

Unless this group intends to release some kind of PSP, PS2, and/or PS3 title - which would only run once signed by authoring (unless of course you jailbreak your PS3... then lulz @ you), there really is nothing to see here.

/golf clap @ this bunch of script kiddies.
 

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vansau said:
LulzSec Nabs Source Code for Sony Dev Site



Man, Sony is just not looking good when it comes to repelling hacker attacks by LulzSec, is it?

It turns out this weekend wasn't a total bust for hacker group LulzSec. Even though its attack on Nintendo <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110667-Nintendo-Admits-It-Was-Hacked-but-Says-Users-Are-Safe>failed to snag any of the company's user data, it turns out that they were able to snag the source code for the exclusive Sony Computer Entertainment Developer Network.

LulzSec announced the grab <a href=http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/77736347154128897>via Twitter. At first glance, this doesn't seem like that big a deal (other than the fact that, y'know, Sony was the victim of another embarrassing hack), but it should be noted that this is the code of a website that can only be visited by registered Sony developers. If LulzSec was able to get this info from the site, it's likely they had access to other proprietary information that's normally off-limits to the general public.

This is the second time in less than a week that LulzSec has <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110608-Sony-Website-Hacked-By-the-Lulz-Boat>managed to make Sony look bad. While I certainly don't agree with the hacker group's tactics, maybe Sony should think about upgrading its database security across the board ...

Source: <a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-06-lulzsec-publishes-psn-dev-source-code>Eurogamer

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No offense intended but isn't pretty much any data a hacker is able to get off-limits to the general public?
 

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Kinichie said:
At what point does it stop being Sonys fault, or the CONSUMER's fault(?) and start being theirs for criminally hacking into a database, and displaying a load of personal details they have stolen.
First of all, it has never been the consumers' fault and neither anonymous nor lulzsec has claimed it is. Furthermore, lulzsec have never claimed that they are doing this for Sony's customers nor that they are pushing some honourable cause. Claiming that they are doing this for some greater good, liek you are doing, is a complete fabrication.

Their motivation boils down to "Sony, among others, is a shitty company and we want to show everyone how shitty they are".

Secondly, nobody has said that these hackers aren't responsible for the problems Sony customers have had since they very obviously are. However, Sony is just as responsible due to having bad security across the board and provoking hackers.

Bottomline: You are making Sony customers the main focus point when they are just a secondary element. The real target is Sony as a corporation.

Knaledge said:
/golf clap @ this bunch of script kiddies.
Nobody has claimed this is some sort of important data leak, it just adds to the mountain of evidence that Sony has lacklustre security. The fact these script kiddies can get to restricted Sony databases looks pretty darn bad.
 

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Agayek said:
vansau said:
It turns out this weekend wasn't a total bust for hacker group Lulzsec. Even though its attack on Nintendo <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110667-Nintendo-Admits-It-Was-Hacked-but-Says-Users-Are-Safe>failed to snag any of the company's user data, it turns out that they were able to snag the source code for the exclusive Sony Computer Entertainment Developer Network.
Considering that LulzSec wasn't even trying to get to Nintendo's user data, I'm not sure it counts as a failure. They did grab the server config files from Nintendo as well, which was the point, or so I've been told.

That said, Sony really needs to get their act together. Yea, it's terrible that they keep getting targeted, but seeing as LulzSec makes a point of announcing what they are going to do ahead of time, Sony really needs to get its act together. Security is a hard thing to do, but when they announce their targets ahead of time, it's not that complicated.
Jonny49 said:
Fuck it, I don't know what annoys me more. The fact that Sony can't seem to sort out their damn security, or that these people keep hacking Sony over and over again.
Knaledge said:
There is nothing on the dev site that is of any interest to anyone. Seriously, the heaps of technical docs, etc. would give someone a broad understanding of how the PS3 works - in terms of data transit, computations, etc.

Mostly, however, this site is used for product submission, technical requirement publishing, and Q&A with Sony DevSupport.

This isn't customer facing. There's nothing financial going on with developers on this site. Your personal information isn't stored there.

Unless this group intends to release some kind of PSP, PS2, and/or PS3 title - which would only run once signed by authoring (unless of course you jailbreak your PS3... then lulz @ you), there really is nothing to see here.

/golf clap @ this bunch of script kiddies.
Versuvius said:
Sony need to cut their losses, stop blustering and strip out their damn server networks and start over. That or just quit outright. Id hate to see the rest of Sony be turned into a phishing host like their Taiwan arm. Its also nice to see the biggest of the big businesses taking it up the arse by scriptkiddies who ANNOUNCE THEIR ACTIONS BEFORE HAND AND STILL SUCCEEED REPEATEDLY. Warms my cockles. But im a horrible leftie, so my opinion is probably invalid.

Edit: Also after a company has shown its incapable of protecting user data the government takes away their right to host data. This isnt about taking down sony its about forcing the governments hand of wherever they are based and stopping them dead in their tracks. This has just occured to me. Anon did it to a blackmailing firm who used ISP data to get pirates to fork over cash or go to prison.
I feel like everyone who goes to the news section stays out of the off-topic discussion...(and don't know what a script kiddie is)

Anyway, I feel like clarifying this. LulzSec recently hacked the FBI affiliate InfraGard. Specifically the Atlanta branch. If you don't know (And I doubt you do), InfraGard is responsible for the FBI's cyber security, and recently set up the InfraGard Atlanta Alliance specifically to defend against hacking attempts. Like with all their attacks, LulzSec announced the attack a week ahead of time...and still hacked InfraGard in a few hours.

Basically, LulzSec is made up of skilled individuals who took down the IAA easily on a budget of ~$160. Now they have ~$7,800 in donations.

Attempting to defend against their attacks is basically an effort in futility at this point. People on this site seem to like to write them off as script kiddies or kids who think that they're badass...but...

It's much, much more serious than that.

Also, I feel that it's worth mentioning that LulzSecurity.com can't be DDOSed.

PROOFZ:

"Someone did compromise the website," InfraGard Atlanta Members Alliance President Paul Farley said in a brief email exchange. "We do not at this time know how the attack occurred or the method used to reveal the passwords."

Copies of the passwords ? which appear to include users from the U.S. Army, cybersecurity organizations and major communications companies ? were posted to the Internet by online hacking collective Lulz Security, which has claimed credit for a string of attacks in the past week.
Source: http://wraltechwire.com/business/tech_wire/news/blogpost/9687803/

(Also, if you went to InfraGard's website a few days ago, you were greeted with a video meme.)
 

Kinichie

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And you are thinking that attacking Sony as a Corporation isn't going to affect their customers at all, when already they have been affected and are still being affected by this. Any corporation that gets attacked regardless of who it is, their customers are affected.
 

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Sony need to cut their losses, stop blustering and strip out their damn server networks and start over. That or just quit outright. Id hate to see the rest of Sony be turned into a phishing host like their Taiwan arm. Its also nice to see the biggest of the big businesses taking it up the arse by scriptkiddies who ANNOUNCE THEIR ACTIONS BEFORE HAND AND STILL SUCCEEED REPEATEDLY. Warms my cockles. But im a horrible leftie, so my opinion is probably invalid.

Edit: Also after a company has shown its incapable of protecting user data the government takes away their right to host data. This isnt about taking down sony its about forcing the governments hand of wherever they are based and stopping them dead in their tracks. This has just occured to me. Anon did it to a blackmailing firm who used ISP data to get pirates to fork over cash or go to prison.