Man Arrested After Hooking Up With 13-Year-Old RuneScape Bride
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He's 54. Common sense learnt over 54 years of living would have taught him that marrying some girl's character in a video game is NOT a legitimate marriage regardless of how much he loved her. And unless the girl lied about her age (a lot) and looked very tall for her age he would have been fully aware of the punishment for having sex with a minor.jonnosferatu said:
I'll put it as a 50 year old man having sexual relations with a young 13 year old woman. :/ Whether it is wrong is subjective, differing from one to another. While there is "disgust", as you put it, there is also talk of the only issue being that it is illegal. Plus, if you are building your morality based upon what is legal and what isn't, I hate think of what you would be telling me about 50-100 years ago, when laws were truly insane. Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it is morally wrong. Laws change for a reason. :/jamiedf said:
No, I do not know her personally. I say it based upon observation though it would be nice to have more information on the matter. Yes, I am actually a mind reader, but that is a discussion for another time.
Yes, it is a very bold claim, and it can be inferred that he possibly took advantage. Though, the cell phone was just an afterthought in all this. Somewhat anyway. Though, that is no reason to say she isn't right of mind and I do not believe you are fit to make that claim just as you question mine.
Plus, not too long ago, 13 was a reasonable age. Younger even.
And by stating that, I just defeated one of my own points. (O_O)
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I can't believe the number of the people here who are claiming that the girl was somehow responsible for this, at 13 a child is too young to be able to decide whether to have sex or not, it's clear that this sick pervert was exploiting the little girl not for her benefit but to sate his own odd desires. As I said on the other thread about this I hope he remains in the can for a long time...
To play the devils advocate, this man is a genius! I mean, other pedophiles use internet chat to pick up minors with no success. This dude joined an mmo and was banging a chick in weeks.
Not that I condone this sought of activity.
Also where were the parents?
Not that I condone this sought of activity.
Also where were the parents?
oh right, yeah iv never played them, not a fan of games that require stealth haha, my stamp actually refers to a different games Templar groupspartan773 said:
i was actually looking at the situation subjectively in regards to the possibility of taking advantage, 13 is not an age of consent as they are still deemed a child (yeas i know by the law but im in the middle of a law degree and its a good basis for arguments) aand yeah just because its illegal donts means its immoral, but sex with an under-age child still is, thats the whole reason for an age restriction.LegendaryGamer0 said:I'll put it as a 50 year old man having sexual relations with a young 13 year old woman. :/ Whether it is wrong is subjective, differing from one to another. While there is "disgust", as you put it, there is also talk of the only issue being that it is illegal. Plus, if you are building your morality based upon what is legal and what isn't, I hate think of what you would be telling me about 50-100 years ago, when laws were truly insane. Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it is morally wrong. Laws change for a reason. :/jamiedf said:
No, I do not know her personally. I say it based upon observation though it would be nice to have more information on the matter. Yes, I am actually a mind reader, but that is a discussion for another time.
Yes, it is a very bold claim, and it can be inferred that he possibly took advantage. Though, the cell phone was just an afterthought in all this. Somewhat anyway. Though, that is no reason to say she isn't right of mind and I do not believe you are fit to make that claim just as you question mine.
Plus, not too long ago, 13 was a reasonable age. Younger even.
And by stating that, I just defeated one of my own points. (O_O)
also what exactly do you mean by 13 being the "reasonable age"
Assassin's Creed doesn't rely much stealth...jamiedf said:oh right, yeah iv never played them, not a fan of games that require stealth haha, my stamp actually refers to a different games Templar groupspartan773 said:
and doesn't matter, all Templars to me are evil, sadistic motherfuckers.
The reason there is a restriction isn't because it's wrong, it's because of "protection"(I use that word loosely). Though, how 5 minutes away from legal can be protection is beyond me. The AoC is set too high.jamiedf said:i was actually looking at the situation subjectively in regards to the possibility of taking advantage, 13 is not an age of consent as they are still deemed a child (yeas i know by the law but im in the middle of a law degree and its a good basis for arguments) aand yeah just because its illegal donts means its immoral, but sex with an under-age child still is, thats the whole reason for an age restriction.LegendaryGamer0 said:I'll put it as a 50 year old man having sexual relations with a young 13 year old woman. :/ Whether it is wrong is subjective, differing from one to another. While there is "disgust", as you put it, there is also talk of the only issue being that it is illegal. Plus, if you are building your morality based upon what is legal and what isn't, I hate think of what you would be telling me about 50-100 years ago, when laws were truly insane. Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it is morally wrong. Laws change for a reason. :/jamiedf said:
No, I do not know her personally. I say it based upon observation though it would be nice to have more information on the matter. Yes, I am actually a mind reader, but that is a discussion for another time.
Yes, it is a very bold claim, and it can be inferred that he possibly took advantage. Though, the cell phone was just an afterthought in all this. Somewhat anyway. Though, that is no reason to say she isn't right of mind and I do not believe you are fit to make that claim just as you question mine.
Plus, not too long ago, 13 was a reasonable age. Younger even.
And by stating that, I just defeated one of my own points. (O_O)
also what exactly do you mean by 13 being the "reasonable age"
I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
13 is a very reasonable age. I don't have much more to say unless you want to derail this thread ten ways from Friday, so if you want to delve deeper into that specific part, I suggest PM. [sub]Is it just me or do I sound rude as hell when tired? (O_O)[/sub]
Two things, probably have already been mentioned, but I seriously doubt anyone actually goes through all these posts.
One. MTG cards and Runescape? Seriously? He's not a moron, he avoided the police, so he knew what he was doing was wrong. I don't get it.
Two. The girl's either an idiot, or smart. She's an idiot if she had no idea what she was getting herself into (which I highly doubt, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...) or she's clever by taking everything this 50 year old could give and then pushing him away once he couldn't give anything more.
I highly doubt selling MTG cards would get you anything more than a phone, to be honest.
One. MTG cards and Runescape? Seriously? He's not a moron, he avoided the police, so he knew what he was doing was wrong. I don't get it.
Two. The girl's either an idiot, or smart. She's an idiot if she had no idea what she was getting herself into (which I highly doubt, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...) or she's clever by taking everything this 50 year old could give and then pushing him away once he couldn't give anything more.
I highly doubt selling MTG cards would get you anything more than a phone, to be honest.
Look at the big picture.
Repressive mother, blocking her child's freedom and privacy, not allowing her (a 13 year old!) to have a phone. She felt trapped, and finally found a way out. It's almost sure, that this man and girl were friends for a long time, and she was the one to propose closer relationship.
Her mother is a 19-century minded, intrusive person with no grasp on real world whatsoever.
Note, that i'm not saying that 13 year old having sex with over 50 years old man is good thing, but he's not the reason it happened.
Repressive mother, blocking her child's freedom and privacy, not allowing her (a 13 year old!) to have a phone. She felt trapped, and finally found a way out. It's almost sure, that this man and girl were friends for a long time, and she was the one to propose closer relationship.
Her mother is a 19-century minded, intrusive person with no grasp on real world whatsoever.
Note, that i'm not saying that 13 year old having sex with over 50 years old man is good thing, but he's not the reason it happened.
Yeah, looking around my area, I'd be surprised if more than about 20% of 13 year olds within a few miles of me were virgins, never mind just knew about sex.
(Um, I'm re-reading that and realise how badly it reflects on me, might need some work, that line...)
There's a lot of questions to be asked, was she already sexually active, did he know she was 13? I've heard of 13 year olds getting served in bars with the right outfit and makeup.
Of course he shouldn't have been trying to get her in the sack, but at the same time, I'm so tired of reading how these predatorial perverts 'lure innocent young girls into sex against their will'.
If that's how it was, he needs serious punishment for rape, if however, as it seems, it happened willingly and repeatedly, then minor, lesser punishments are in order for taking advantage of an immature girl.
Just to put things in context too, Brad Pitt is nearly 50, would he be seen as a dirty old man by teenagers?
TL;DR version: The age of consent is an outdated concept and really needs looking at again, in an age where you don't have to be 18 to be married off by your father in the hope of bettering your social status. Most 13 year olds know exactly what fucking is, and will have seen it online, if not actually done it.
(Um, I'm re-reading that and realise how badly it reflects on me, might need some work, that line...)
There's a lot of questions to be asked, was she already sexually active, did he know she was 13? I've heard of 13 year olds getting served in bars with the right outfit and makeup.
Of course he shouldn't have been trying to get her in the sack, but at the same time, I'm so tired of reading how these predatorial perverts 'lure innocent young girls into sex against their will'.
If that's how it was, he needs serious punishment for rape, if however, as it seems, it happened willingly and repeatedly, then minor, lesser punishments are in order for taking advantage of an immature girl.
Just to put things in context too, Brad Pitt is nearly 50, would he be seen as a dirty old man by teenagers?
TL;DR version: The age of consent is an outdated concept and really needs looking at again, in an age where you don't have to be 18 to be married off by your father in the hope of bettering your social status. Most 13 year olds know exactly what fucking is, and will have seen it online, if not actually done it.
what is this the 1930's? exactly what was he hoping would happen? New York will fight to keep him from the grasping hands of Michigan? lol