Natural Selection.solidsnake101023 said:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43624650/ns/us_news-life/?gt1=43001
Apparently he fell off his motorcycle and died when he struck his head. Having a helmet on would have saved his life. Share your thoughts
And then you bump into another person who is smoking! Seriously though, how big are these train stations? I have never seen one in the media that would be big enough to simply move away from the smoker without causing yourself too much inconvenience.SaneAmongInsane said:then you take 5 steps away. Dude I can understand the laws against smoking indoors, in bars (even that killed the bar economy), taxing the hell out of cigs the way New York does but their getting ridiculous. I feel like any moment Bloomberg is going to declare we have to live in plastic bubbles.Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
I hope I don't honestly have to explain to you why that is a terrible comparison. Smoking is a choice while farting for the most part is not.Rabish Bini said:So we should ban it because it smells like crap?Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
Interesting idea, shall farts be banned too?
Indeed it is.Snowy Rainbow said:For one, less intelligent people can be a great deal more human than the latter and would therefore have more intrinsic worth. But that's just me.
Nothing against you, just brought up Godwin's LawOptimusPrime33 said:What's wrong with that you fascist?
Oh please, you can hold in a fart so easily. There are so many other things that smell, should we ban them all too.Bags159 said:And then you bump into another person who is smoking! Seriously though, how big are these train stations? I have never seen one in the media that would be big enough to simply move away from the smoker without causing yourself too much inconvenience.SaneAmongInsane said:then you take 5 steps away. Dude I can understand the laws against smoking indoors, in bars (even that killed the bar economy), taxing the hell out of cigs the way New York does but their getting ridiculous. I feel like any moment Bloomberg is going to declare we have to live in plastic bubbles.Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
I hope I don't honestly have to explain to you why that is a terrible comparison. Smoking is a choice while farting for the most part is not.Rabish Bini said:So we should ban it because it smells like crap?Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
Interesting idea, shall farts be banned too?
Yea that is all well and good but what happens when you ARE in a crash? You die and the other person will likely be charged with manslaughter.Thaius said:He was stupid; purposefully riding without a helmet was pretty dumb. But I actually agree with him. The problem with both the helmet and seat belt laws is that the only person at risk is the one not wearing one of the aforementioned equipment. American government is intended to allow freedom, essentially meaning that you can do whatever idiotic thing you want as long as it's not going to hurt someone else, which is why things like murder and theft are illegal but licking a spark plug is not. Laws are not supposed to keep us safe from ourselves, they're supposed to keep us safe from others and others safe from us.
Issue being, sometimes we forget to put on a seatbelt. Or perhaps we lost our helmet. And we end up needing to pay a ticket because we had the audacity to put ourselves, and no one else, at risk, probably just because of forgetfulness or something. I don't see that as in line with the constitution or generally okay on principle for a country that was formed specifically with freedom in mind.
I don't know of any train stations near Columbus, Ohio.Rabish Bini said:Oh please, you can hold in a fart so easily. There are so many other things that smell, should we ban them all too.Bags159 said:And then you bump into another person who is smoking! Seriously though, how big are these train stations? I have never seen one in the media that would be big enough to simply move away from the smoker without causing yourself too much inconvenience.SaneAmongInsane said:then you take 5 steps away. Dude I can understand the laws against smoking indoors, in bars (even that killed the bar economy), taxing the hell out of cigs the way New York does but their getting ridiculous. I feel like any moment Bloomberg is going to declare we have to live in plastic bubbles.Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
I hope I don't honestly have to explain to you why that is a terrible comparison. Smoking is a choice while farting for the most part is not.Rabish Bini said:So we should ban it because it smells like crap?Bags159 said:It still smells like crap regardless of whether or not it is harmful when diluted.SaneAmongInsane said:That a person has a right to choose what enters their body so long as it's not harming anyone else, thusly it being out in the air limits 2nd hand smoke intake. Duh.Bags159 said:I don't see how the fact that it is "OUT IN THE OPEN AIR" makes any difference.SaneAmongInsane said:That one can not smoke, OUT IN THE OPEN AIR.Bags159 said:Are you really complaining that you can't smoke (read: annoy and potentially harm others) in a public area packed with people?SaneAmongInsane said:Dude, my state of New York is the biggest fucking nanny state in the U.S. It sucks. Can't even smoke on a train platform, over tax us for cola, the only legal weapon your allowed to carry is pepper spray, amongst other things.Travuersa said:It's sad. I hope his death will teach other anti-helmet activist the true cost of abstaining.
Fuck the laws, helmets shouldn't be mandatory.
I'm not even a smoker but all these laws make me feel like 1984
Interesting idea, shall farts be banned too?
And there are many train platforms big enough to simply move away from a smoker, I have no idea about the stations where you live however.
Agreed. When so many of the busier places have bicycle lanes, wearing a helmet on a bicycle should be optional. I'd highly recommend it (wearing that is), but I don't think someone deserves to be punished for not wearing a helmet, a device which is purely self-protective. I mean, humans tend to be highly self-conscious creatures (what with us being social animals) so having legally mandated helmets will decrease the number of cyclists, which increases the users of alternate transport measures (cars) for distances beyond walking practicality, which increases the percentage of people getting little to no exercise. I think when our roads are adaptable to cyclists without putting them at risk, then promoting a healthy life-style with reduced carbon emissions is a good thing.Digital_Hero said:If this was something with bicycles then id just say protest away, but motorcycles?
WATBlitzwing said:Natural selection doesn?t actually mean survival of the fittest nor does it mean survival of the smartest.OptimusPrime33 said:Defending myself: No, I SHOULDN'T rethink my comment, ever heard of Natural Selection?Snowy Rainbow said:You judge worth of life based on intelligence? Perhaps you should rethink your comment, because as it reads now, anyone who happens to be retarded is off your love list.OptimusPrime33 said:He's a fucking idiot. I'm sorry but, if you ride a motorcycle, or any other 2-4 wheeled vehicle, and are not wearing a helmet and you fall, I don't feel sorry for you because I believe you are a total imbecile.
Really? Hm. I'd prefer cold, callous people that hide behind computers and make insensitive remarks be removed from the gene pool. For one, less intelligent people can be a great deal more human than the latter and would therefore have more intrinsic worth. But that's just me.Friendshipandmagic said:I agree, glad to see another one removed from the gene pool.OptimusPrime33 said:He's a fucking idiot. I'm sorry but, if you ride a motorcycle, or any other 2-4 wheeled vehicle, and are not wearing a helmet and you fall, I don't feel sorry for you because I believe you are a total imbecile.