Man Let Son Suffocate Because He Was Playing WoW
- Thread starter vansau
- Start date
When you have about 9 months before you bring a child into the world, you spend that time diligently researching and learning all you can about parenting. Not worrying about how many raids you get into that frame of time.Deshara said:You know what? If nobody came right out and told me, I wouldn't move the pillow off my child's head. I sleep buried every night under thick blankets and pillows, so I wouldn't be miffed to see a child like that as well. I really don't see this guy as being all that bad-- children being able to suffocate from a pillow isn't something I consider common knowledge
I hope your admission of ignorance means you don't have any children or are trusted with watching others' infants.
This. THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.Daemascus said:
It's stories like this that give gamers a bad name and I hate it. I'm actually offended that this happens. I'll bet good money that he is a WoW player, and a bad parent, and DECIDED to blame the MMO because it would be easy to get away with, and will reduce his jail time because he can go to an internet rehab place...
FUCK. I hate people that do this. This is a problem with both society today and people within my generation, the generation before me and the generation after me... NOBODY FUCKING KNOWS HOW TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. You play a game, neglect a child, child dies. You = Terrible parent and should never have kids. Because you can't take responsibility, you get a lawyer and blame the fuck out of the makers of said game. You then sue them, they bring a settlement, you get tons of money and avoid a murder charge. FUCKING HELL! Worse yet, you bring forward the stereotype that all people who play games will neglect and murder their children given the chance.
God I hate shit like this...
I think the problem is people aren't understanding that the man DID NOT KNOW that the baby was suffocating.
The problem is he was too involved with the game to be bothered CHECKING if the baby was okay.
Hearing a baby crying isn't exactly an alarm that says loud and clear "OH GOD THE BABY IS DYING DROP WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS SECOND AND GO SAVE IT"
Babies cry all day long, all week long, all month long, about anything and evverything. They might look at their toes and suddenly find they scare them.
While I personally would get up and check on a crying baby right away, I can see how 10 years in prison are VERY undeserved in this case as the guy clearly cannot read minds and did NOT know the baby was dying, at worst he probably felt it needed a diaper change. Not exactly a life threatening problem needing immediate attention.
To sum it up? Terrible accidents happen. Next time put the baby in a crib.
The problem is he was too involved with the game to be bothered CHECKING if the baby was okay.
Hearing a baby crying isn't exactly an alarm that says loud and clear "OH GOD THE BABY IS DYING DROP WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS SECOND AND GO SAVE IT"
Babies cry all day long, all week long, all month long, about anything and evverything. They might look at their toes and suddenly find they scare them.
While I personally would get up and check on a crying baby right away, I can see how 10 years in prison are VERY undeserved in this case as the guy clearly cannot read minds and did NOT know the baby was dying, at worst he probably felt it needed a diaper change. Not exactly a life threatening problem needing immediate attention.
To sum it up? Terrible accidents happen. Next time put the baby in a crib.
One of those stories that makes me give the middle finger to my screen.
No fucking excuse. He doesn't deserve to have any mercy put upon him.
I look after kids as part of my job, and this really pisses me off. I see your posts about how it's not something you would consider dangerous. Well, if you have any sort of common sense, rationality, or a non-comatose intuition then you would at least have your offspring in the same room as you.
There is no excuse for letting your baby die. Ever. You fucking get that?
No fucking excuse. He doesn't deserve to have any mercy put upon him.
I look after kids as part of my job, and this really pisses me off. I see your posts about how it's not something you would consider dangerous. Well, if you have any sort of common sense, rationality, or a non-comatose intuition then you would at least have your offspring in the same room as you.
Bullshit! You can't be serious. When your baby cries you fucking check on it and at least pick it up.michael87cn said:
There is no excuse for letting your baby die. Ever. You fucking get that?
If your read my post, blame falls on both parties but majority of blame depends on your view, the data you gathered that came to this conclusion, and the conclusion itself. This is like the game community's version of politic, in this scenario your either pro-Blizzard or pro-father. In my eyes, somethin like WoW is something to be given up when you have a kid, especially when they're only 6 months old. Blizzard can bare some of the blame because, as proven before, the game is designed to make the player addicted turning playing the game into an addiction equal to nictotine or gambling in order for Blizzard to charge it's monthly sub-scrip on players. To put into context for you, the skinner box grasp on people is the nicotine Blizzard has out into WoW in order to generate profit and do tobacco co.s care about us? At any rate, the father should not even be playing WoW at a time so crucial to this development in his family. Blizzard should feel partly responsible and at least be willing to give repartions to the mother and father(?), court ordered or just general human compassion.Radeonx said:
Is WoW to blame for this? No, not really.
HOWEVER! I will play devils advocate and say that if you make a product that feeds the addiction to the lowest common denominators can you really be surprised when this happens?
If you made lets say a smoke, that gave you all the effects of drinking, but without the BAC, would you be shocked when people become addicted to it? Even though personally I most times feel like addiction is a bullshit cop out, there are plenty of people who can claim addictions.
I do place some of the blame on Blizzards feet. I do so because of the way the game is designed. Not that it is designed to be addictive, but because it is designed entirely too much for reliance on other people which creates expectations. I think we all know that people make horrible decisions for themselves. By making a game that requires in many cases for a player to not be able to take appropriate breaks on a moments notice when needed, Then people will make poor decisions like this one and chalk it up to calculated risks.
HOWEVER! I will play devils advocate and say that if you make a product that feeds the addiction to the lowest common denominators can you really be surprised when this happens?
If you made lets say a smoke, that gave you all the effects of drinking, but without the BAC, would you be shocked when people become addicted to it? Even though personally I most times feel like addiction is a bullshit cop out, there are plenty of people who can claim addictions.
I do place some of the blame on Blizzards feet. I do so because of the way the game is designed. Not that it is designed to be addictive, but because it is designed entirely too much for reliance on other people which creates expectations. I think we all know that people make horrible decisions for themselves. By making a game that requires in many cases for a player to not be able to take appropriate breaks on a moments notice when needed, Then people will make poor decisions like this one and chalk it up to calculated risks.
omfg! really!? i play WoW and you know what? ive had emergency's before in my house and i abandoned my RAID GROUP because of it! when things were under control and safe again i went back and told everyone what happened,and im the bloody tank of my group.people understand more then you think.its a game for god sakes! it can wait,your child or anyone/thing else CANT.
this guy should not be allowed to even play video game still he gets his priorities straight.
EVERYTHING is above playing video games! family,chores,work,finances,EVERYTHING! even if you cant "pause" it,if you die its such a small penalty its near non-existent!
i feel sorry for the kid,i really do...i also will be extremely pissed if i hear someone blaming the game for the kids death and not the father himself!
this guy should not be allowed to even play video game still he gets his priorities straight.
EVERYTHING is above playing video games! family,chores,work,finances,EVERYTHING! even if you cant "pause" it,if you die its such a small penalty its near non-existent!
i feel sorry for the kid,i really do...i also will be extremely pissed if i hear someone blaming the game for the kids death and not the father himself!
He should have rolled a rogue, invisible equals pause....Dumbass parents these days giving us all a bad name
It's easy to jump on the blame train here. Should he have got up? Of course-- his son would be alive. Is he the first dad not to check on his kid immediately because his favorite show was on/his favorite team was about to score/he was just napping?
I'm not excusing being negligent, but if 24/7 monitoring can wear out the best of them. Heck, it's a wonder so many kids manage to survive to adulthood as it is (I know I did the best to kill myself. Tricycle meet improvised skateboard ramp...still can see that scar)
I'm not excusing being negligent, but if 24/7 monitoring can wear out the best of them. Heck, it's a wonder so many kids manage to survive to adulthood as it is (I know I did the best to kill myself. Tricycle meet improvised skateboard ramp...still can see that scar)
