Man Let Son Suffocate Because He Was Playing WoW

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Vrach

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Yeah blame the game, not the fucking idiot.
^This. I'm pretty sure that "brb, infant son's suffocating" is one of the best fucking reasons for an AFK no matter the in game (or any other obviously) situation. That guy is a fucking idiot and should not be left in charge of a pot plant, let alone a human life.
 

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Shirokurou said:
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I haven't played WoW recently, but I have in the past.
Figured as much...
Just for the record, I'm not insinuating WoW players of anything, so you can drop the armor.
That's nice. Why even have a conversation if you don't think I could be sufficiently objective?

Shirokurou said:
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I think it would be eminently reasonable to speculate sex addiction has contributed to the spread of and/or death from STDs. There's also been suggestions of a link to minor sexual offenses (voyeurism, exhibitionism etc.) Food addiction can be linked to any number of health risks from anorexia to diabetes and heart attack. Cutting addiction is self explanatory etc.
That's very informative but just as the fact that blood transfusions infected people with AIDs. Sexoholics and STDs are not really connected. Oh they go hand in hand alright, but no connection there. The sexoholic might be paranoid over his health and avoid all that

But otherwise thanks for telling me that people die when they are killed.
I'm sorry, but what? Sex addiction and STDs aren't connected but WoW addiction and letting babies die from neglect is? So WoW addiction has a death toll from neglect, but if a sex addict catches or spreads AIDS that's just "going hand in hand." WoW has a death toll from playing too long and forgetting to eat or sleep, but if a food addict dies of a heart attack that's just "going hand in hand." A sex addict may be extremely cautious, but a WoW addict may not be a parent; that doesn't refute anything, unless you want an obscene nanny state that Orwell couldn't even imagine. We're talking about trends and risks, not individual horror stories.

Shirokurou said:
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I'm not ruling out that WoW is a legitimately dangerous product, but the distance between where we are now and thinking about banning WoW is incredibly vast.
I said that I get thoughts of EMPing it's servers... Didn't say I'd ban it.

And seriously this is going a little way too long than it should be, so let's make out final pints and stop.

My final point: Some people are scum who neglect their children for games. I hate that kind of scum. A game, which is alleged to addiction and frequently brought up in scandals was involved and got a piece of my impulsive rage. But now my rage is over and I really don't care about WoW one way or the other.
You would EMP the servers and then let it go right back into operation? What would that accomplish?

Some people are scum who neglect their children, what is so special about games? What kind of neglecting scum don't you hate? Alleged to addiction [sic] and frequently brought up in scandals are null terms except in comparison to other things, unless you're holding a zero tolerance policy, blowing up everything that has been linked to death. You just said it yourself, ALLEGED. Yes, some allegations are stronger than others, but an immediate nuclear option for an allegation is crazy. You advocate a witch hunt and are surprised when someone calls you on it.

But I'm just a former WoW player who's upset because I think you called me a sociopath, right? Anyone who is interested in facts is clearly just in denial.
 

Shirokurou

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You would EMP the servers and then let it go right back into operation? What would that accomplish?
Nothing. It's rage impulse, it's not supposed to have any benefits.
That's nice. Why even have a conversation if you don't think I could be sufficiently objective?
I never doubted your objectiveness. Rather I don't see a reason to hold on to this conversation. I basically admitted that my reaction was just that... a reaction. No plans or propositions involved.
I'm sorry, but what? Sex addiction and STDs aren't connected
Just as a gun isn't necessarily connected to the motive of the crime. It's just a gun used in that crime. It could've been an axe.
WoW addiction and letting babies die from neglect is?
Never said that. And if you got the impression that I did. I'll say it now. No they are in no way connected.
We're talking about trends and risks, not individual horror stories.
I'm not a politician. So I am talking about individual tragedies and my impulsive rage reaction to them. I'm not nearly knowledgeable and informed on the stats to start a "WoW kills children" debate, not to mention not that dumb.
You advocate a witch hunt and are surprised when someone calls you on it.
1. I'm an atheist, so spare me the witch hunting.
2. I said I'd EMP WoW's servers, but the next day I would be like... "Oh damn, I stopped the guys from making legal profits" I should help them get back online. It's an impulse, which I stated many times that I won't follow up.
3. I AM surprised that someone calls me out on witch-hunting considering the first 2 points.
But I'm just a former WoW player who's upset because I think you called me a sociopath, right?
No, I assumed that only a person with a previous history with the game in subject would be interested to continue this talk. Again, I'm not insinuating you in anything, including being upset at my supposed insinuation. If I gave that impression, I apologize.

And in bold no less... I an NOT proposing to ban WoW but that still leaves me a right to dislike it and harbor impulsive thoughts of it's EMP attack, which I, of course, won't do.

So... anything else?
 

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What? WHAT!? Ten years? No. no no, and even more no. Don't give him ten years, give him a slow, painful death. Give him no food or water, let him vomit continously from hunger. Cut him up with knives or Razors. Break his bones... Oh, and before he dies, delete all his WoW characters. Make all that time wasted. To let a game distract you from a crying, suffocating child... such a bastard. It doesn't matter if theres no pause button, he let a game distract him from a dieing child. A child that didn't get to fulfill anything in life.

Note to Fucktard Warner, Real life has no respawns
uhh
no
 

BoogieManFL

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Would be no different had he been playing Pong.

WoW is just a more popular target.

Bottom line - bad parent, bad person.
 

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soultion put the playpen/crib next to the f****** computer

I mean really there was no exuse anyway if he could see the pillow was on the kids face that means they we in the same room it takes like 2 seconds to get up and take the F****** pillow away from the kid!!
 

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i suggest death by snorting charlie sheen

only he doesn't have any children to weep over his exploded body...
 

Bullfrog1983

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A waste of two lives, seems like all of these wonderful stories come from people who play World of Warcraft... funny that.
 

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I'm going to bookmark this post. That way anytime I feel the urge to finally buy WoW I can read this and convince myself not to.
 

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Daemascus said:
How is this WoWs fault? This man is just a bad parent. He could just as easly been watching football or something and this could have turned out the same. Blaming WoW is just an excuse.
this! a million times this!
 

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Well, you obviously can't blame him! He has a disease, like alcoholism! [/end utter B.S.]

This is so ridiculously sad it shouldn't have happened. Of course, I kind of do blame the pusher, if not as much.
 

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If i were a politician i'd use this case as an example to push for a bill where you must prove that you can be a responsible parent before you're allowed to reproduce, and use MMORPGs as a disqualifying mark.

But i'm not that tasteless.
...okay, i am but i'm not a politician because i utterly despise both major political parties in my country. That having been said, the major problem is the negligence. If it wasn't WoW it would have been he didn't check on the child because he didn't want to stop looking at LOLcats pics. The fact that WoW became a major factor in this instead of "A kid died because his dad was a lazy inattentive ************" is a little depressing. Yeah i know MMOs do have a risk of increasing the ratio of negligent homicide, but the thing is they are video games so i fear i have to draw fire away from them or damage the industry i love.
 

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Shirokurou said:
Frankly, I'm tired of hearing news like this...
Makes me want to take a hammer to the heads of such idiot-parents and an EMP to WoW and FB for providing such distractions.
Seriously, agreeing with Super-Skrull, there's too much trash in the universe...

Sorry for such a post...
Apology not necessary

OT: If he couldn't pull himself away from a video game and he's 29, he's obviously not ready to be a parent. If/when I have kids, I'd make sure to at least play a game that you can pause like Call Of Duty or a game where pausing doesn't matter, the game won't do anything (Fire Emblem, anyone?).
 

Cid Silverwing

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It's called Stealthing/Hearthstoning in an emergency!

Lifetime or death penalty to this man. I've no sympathy for this level of gross neglect and deceit.
 

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Lets face it, him playing WoW was irrelevant. This is just an ignorant dick with zero parenting skills.
 

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zoozilla said:
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I don't know what to think. My initial thought is that he is an awful parrent an should rot, but i had no idea that, that could happen. I sleep with pillows over my head all the time it would have never occured to me to see the pillow over the child and be like, "Oh FUCK!" Shows how prepared I am to be a parent.
Parent's do that self-sooth thing all the time and while i can't tell you if it works if he was just looking for a place to pause I can understand.
When did the son start crying vs.en did the father go to check on him is what i would want to know.

I doubt I will ever have children I'm way to selfish with my time. If I do, then they're fucking top priority though, can KIND OF be easy to forget that when you set the kid down to nap. Again I want a spacific time table.
Apparently the child was crying, though, which really makes this inexcusable.
Babies cry ALL THE DAMN TIME!

I mean, he should have gone to see why the baby was crying, but...

I'm with one of the above posters, though. I guess I would make an awful parent 'cause if I saw my kid with a pillow on them, I wouldn't go 'OH FUCK THEY'RE DYING!' I regularly built myself pillow forts and snuggled with pillows and what have you when I was like...2.