Martyrdom Perk Changed for Modern Warfare 2

OneHP

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I'll bet it doesn't drop if you don't have a nade left, that'll be the only thing.
 

sam13lfc

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I hope "treated differently" means "sent into the fiery depths of Hell."

Seriously I despise Martyrdom for what I hope are very obvious reasons...
 

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Malygris said:
Martyrdom Perk Changed for Modern Warfare 2

"Every element that's been added and is brand new to multiplayer has been painstakingly tested by us, our own worst critics.


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I'm guessing they had Yahtzee in studio playing the game ferociosly, he is everyones worst critic, or shall i say, best critic in the sence that he takes out EVERY LITTLE THING wrong with a game and nitpicks it.

You know im right.

O.T. [HEADING=1]THANK THE GODS, MY DREAMS HAVE FINALY COME TRUE.[/HEADING]
 

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I never had a problem with Martyrdom. Once everyone started using it, I just waited a couple of seconds to see if the dead body explodes (or walk away since the grenades are uncooked and take a good three seconds to go off, or my personal favorite, pick up the grenade and throw it at someone else).

If you're on top of the person when you kill them, then all you have to do is listen. The "grenade hitting the ground" noise is clear if they have martyrdom on, so either pick the thing up or take a casual stroll away.
 

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I always get caught like a dumbass even though i've been playing the game forever, it doesn't bother me as much as juggernaut, i'd like to see what the change is though.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
Amnestic said:
Maybe if it didn't make you shit a grenade out of your arse when your actual Frag Grenade had been used up so people actually had to think about whether they wanted to throw a grenade or chance a martyrdom kill after they did.

But no, magically appearing greandes makes far more sense >_>
Oh yes because videogames always have to be realistic TO THE MAX right?
No, but they have to obey the same realism that they themselves place in the world. You can't just magic a new clip for your gun when you run out of ammo, so why should you be able to magic a grenade when you get shot?

It's not realistic within the parameters of the game world. Realism to the 'real world' is irrelevant for the discussion.
 

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Its shows how popular and anticipated a game is, when something as small as this gets a headline... Not that I'm complaining, I can't wait to play, and I hate Martyrdom.
 

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http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20090918

New Martyrdom change is in the first panel.

IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
 

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Martyrdom since they are keeping it should only work if you have a unused fragmentation grenade in inventory.

Both Martyrdom and Last Stand are lame, you die, you failed, and failure shouldn't be rewarded. Martyrdom is avoidable, but in tight maps it gets difficult and in Hardcore your only sign is the telltale pinging noise the nade makes as it drops.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
I don't see the problem with Martrydom really. I mean it's a legitamate way to get kills, and you have a good chance to get away from it, so why complain?
Martydom should be out the game. Name me ANY OTHER GAME EVER that allows you to start a match, put the controller down, come back in 7 minutes to find you have 2 kills and 13 deaths. So you can kill people without even PLAYING the game. YEAAAHHH thats fair.
you have a good chance to get away, and a small chance of unavoidable death, becasue you were BETTER than the other player. It's equivalent to a perk that makes your opponents shotgun spontaneausly explode once every 100 kills or so. The reward for victory is a chance at death.
Even juggernaut makes you squeeze a trigger, martydom can get you kills BY ITSELF. you dont even have to press a button to activate it.
 

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I like the martyrdom. Its only noobs who whine about it since they don't know how to dodge
I disagree. Some noobs, but mostly campers who don't have the skill to move from behind the corner whine about it... I love it for dealing with campers, and it isn't hard to dodge... Non-hardcore, you have no excuse at all for getting killed by it since you have the grenade indicator... Hardcore, just don't walk over bodies for a few seconds after they die, not hard... I've even knifed someone who had martyrdom and got away without even being affected by the nade...

And, to be fair, they better do something to last stand... I hate that fucking thing... especially how the scoring goes into play with it...
 

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Martydom isn't that bad honestly. Yeah its a dick move to a degree but eh. If someone killed you why not get a kill in return?
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
I don't see the problem with Martrydom really. I mean it's a legitamate way to get kills, and you have a good chance to get away from it, so why complain?
No it is not a legitimate way to get kills. It's the exact opposite. You don't deserve that kill because somebody shot you. You are supposed to be dead not being able to "throw" a grenade.
 

Amnestic

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NoMoreSanity said:
Amnestic said:
No, but they have to obey the same realism that they themselves place in the world. You can't just magic a new clip for your gun when you run out of ammo, so why should you be able to magic a grenade when you get shot?

It's not realistic within the parameters of the game world. Realism to the 'real world' is irrelevant for the discussion.
Well I respond to that with: Who. The Fuck. Cares?
I do? Might just be me who like consistency and immersion in their gameplay, but I would dare to say that I'm not alone in such an appreciation.
 

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the people who forgot about rb throw back complain.
really,
i usually spend my nade before i am in CQB, so when i kill anyone close, i just tap the button while crouching on their corpse, and blind huck it where i think their team is.

its awsome.
 

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personally i dont mind martyrdom even though i dont use it. however it would be cool if it dropped their second grenade instead of a frag so everyone gets stunned.
 

El Poncho

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You probably need to have a grenade with you to drop it or press a button before you die.