Mass Effect 3 ending SPOILERS!
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Engaging "Flame/Troll Shields" shouldn't be required, that would just be childish and petulant on behalf of someone else. However, if you honestly believe that you *always* knew the series would end tragically then, with respect, it was you who was not paying attention while playing the original and initial sequel.VoidWanderer said:
First and Foremost, both previous entries in the series offered Heroic Endings for those willing to commit fully to their respective efforts, especially in ME2 where completing all research, the loyalty missions, and going after your captured crew resulted in Shepard defeating the collectors completely and, essentially, standing out looking at space towards the Reapers with a "You're next," expression. And you believed it, unless you have a sadistic love for Shakespearean tragedy in your narrative so you see it at every turn.
Second point: ME3's motivation for the Reapers doesn't even match up to what we were told. First they were Gods! (According to Sovereign) and their beliefs and Actions could not be perceived by smaller races. Yet, come Shepard's conversation with Projection Child Reaper Emperor...thing, his explanation boils down to, "We were Organics who became Synthetics to destroy Organics who will create Synthetics that will destroy Organics." Really? Not only is that ludicrous on so many levels (how can they guarantee that will happen and, likewise, how can BioWare not give Shepard an *honest* option to choose) What's worse is it doesn't even follow the original motivations of the Reapers hinted at in ME2, i.e. the rising tide of Dark Energy in the cosmos, something which could, theoretically, destroy all life.
Lastly, Mass Effect as *always* essentially been Star Wars for a new generation, just with far better writing (sans the endings) As such, ending the game with a Triumphant victory was expected and diverting for the sake of some false Shakespearean pathos is simply contrite and irresponsible on the part of Mac Walters and the rest of the ME3 writing team. Comparing these endings to Dragon Age Origin's "Bittersweet" ending is also in error. Indeed, not taking Morrigan's offer results in either the Warden or one of his Warden contemporaries (i.e. Alistair or Loghain) being sacrificed; however, that sacrifice does not leave the rest of the world in peril or completely destroyed with all of his companions lost. Yes, our Hero is lost, but the sacrifice is justified. While I would have never expected Shepard to die unless the player chooses that route I would have excepted an ending like DAO's as being "Bittersweet." However, for ME3, there is a distinctive lack of "sweet," it's merely "bitter, and nonsensically so at that.
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Well i guess when you like something its hard to see eye to eye with the people who don'tsynobal said:
Actually, I fully wanted an ending where Shepard dies in a heroic sacrifice. While I enjoy a good ending where everyone lives, they dont have the same impact as truely bittersweet endings.VoidWanderer said:
*note, I havent played the game, but I did check out the endings, since everyone is bitching about them.*
Though I would have prefered an ending which actually would allow the series to continue, in spin offs or something. This is not for all games series, but for Mass Effect, I would love more. And with these endings, that just doesnt seem possible...
It's criticism, a LOT of people are really unhappy with this. And we're doing this because while I like fanfiction, at the end of the day, it's fanfiction, and not the canon ending, it's not the same. And we're also doing it because it's worked before.synobal said:
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It is the 'Worldstone' thing from Diablo 2. When my mates and I clocked D2 and expansion, I was the only one that knew a sequel would be made. I am fairly certain that there will be more Mass Effect games as EA, while they are moneygrubbing and maniacal, will most likely get Bioware to make more games.WanderingFool said:
You'd be in that small 3% or so shown in the poll. There's nothing wrong with that, but it seems the majority of people are not happy about the endings (I'm not). I'd be fine with them keeping the endings the have now, just add a few more or something with some closure and or happiness.synobal said:
Hang on... they vaunted that feature where you get to continue after completing the game. But completing the game means Shepard's close to death, and there's no way to travel between systems because the relays are down.
How the hell does that work?
(Besides, all that talk about tracking lots of factors from the first game and over a thousand from the second - and it all comes down, after potentially two hundred hours of gaming, to which one of three buttons you click in the last minute of play? Seriously? Bioware, go play Fallout and see how it should be done.)
How the hell does that work?
(Besides, all that talk about tracking lots of factors from the first game and over a thousand from the second - and it all comes down, after potentially two hundred hours of gaming, to which one of three buttons you click in the last minute of play? Seriously? Bioware, go play Fallout and see how it should be done.)
True, EA will probably have Bioware make more, I just hope they dont end up being shitty little spin-offs like Halo Wars, and are as good as the original ME games.VoidWanderer said:
If it's not a fairy tale, then why in the world did they come up with the freaking Princess Bride/grampa-tell-me-a-story cop out at the end?!VoidWanderer said:
It's not funny it's not charming it's driving the point that the mass effect universe as we know it is dead. As dead as the protean were. If they had to have Buzz Aldrin, they could've have had him as an academy instructor, ...something that ties to the original setting!
I just stumbled across this:
In other words, they told us they'd have "wildly different [endings]" based on all the choices throughout the games. And at the end all that goes out the window and it comes down to three options from a machine winched down from the flies.
I pre-ordered the CE, for about £70 - a lot, but having grown to love the first games it seemed worth it. I haven't got home to open it yet, but having read the summaries of the endings... I dunno, is it even worth keeping? Should I simply return it and buy the patch from PatchGeeks instead?
What a poor show, Bioware.
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1055366p2.html
In other words, they told us they'd have "wildly different [endings]" based on all the choices throughout the games. And at the end all that goes out the window and it comes down to three options from a machine winched down from the flies.
I pre-ordered the CE, for about £70 - a lot, but having grown to love the first games it seemed worth it. I haven't got home to open it yet, but having read the summaries of the endings... I dunno, is it even worth keeping? Should I simply return it and buy the patch from PatchGeeks instead?
What a poor show, Bioware.
It's not a cop-out it's a way of showing us that civilization didn't die with the destruction of the relays.Aisaku said:
Yes, the Mass Effect is dead as we know it, but what's important is the "as we know it" part. Destroying the mass relays was important so that the galaxy can follow it's own path in terms of technology and not one set down by the Reapers. The Mass Effect universe is by no means dead, but at the end of ME3, it has been changed significantly.
I am left with a hunger for answers. Eventhough, they've used this Child-bs to justify the Reapers' extinction cycle, it still leaves questions unanswered. Who started this whole thing and why? Who created the Catalyst AI 50000 times X years ago? Why did he do it? Did they rebel against their creator (!)? And if they did, did that someone design the Crucible to stop them? They aren't really giving any answers. That was the question that wouldn't let me sleep: What are the Reapers and why are they?
TBH, I expected the Crucible to be the core design for a Reaper or something FROM the Reapers to aid them in their harvest.
In the end, I really liked this game but the end was unsatisfying.
FFS, I'm still hungry for answers!
TBH, I expected the Crucible to be the core design for a Reaper or something FROM the Reapers to aid them in their harvest.
In the end, I really liked this game but the end was unsatisfying.
FFS, I'm still hungry for answers!
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
EDIT: Yes, one of the endings can only be acquired by getting enough War Asset-thing-a-majigs.
...HOWEVER, that ending is still vague and almost exactly identical to the other two endings so much that, until more DLC or another game in the series is released, we have no idea whether it effects anything about anything. And the choice is still very much ternary; even if you unlock the ending you don't have to take that option. The game doesn't enforce your past actions on you, making the choices (appear) pointless in the grand scheme of things.
EDIT: Yes, one of the endings can only be acquired by getting enough War Asset-thing-a-majigs.
...HOWEVER, that ending is still vague and almost exactly identical to the other two endings so much that, until more DLC or another game in the series is released, we have no idea whether it effects anything about anything. And the choice is still very much ternary; even if you unlock the ending you don't have to take that option. The game doesn't enforce your past actions on you, making the choices (appear) pointless in the grand scheme of things.