You're right, most people don't have anything to hide, from EA. However, what EA chooses to do with that info is not being discussed. Suppose they sell that information, which in turn gets handed to or picked up by data smugglers. What if you name files with the same name as your pssword? What if you use the same password as your atm pin? This is where it gets hairy.Omnific One said:
Mass Effect 3 Gives Steam a Miss at Launch
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I am a PC gamer and what EA does is comletely useless.
It's a marketing desaster, costs customers and has a lasting impact on EA and Bioware.
To play Bioware games you need a Bioware account AND Origin. Yeah nice guys.
Hope they know why I stopped buying games from Ubisoft.
And to make that clear, as long as I have to use "Bioware Points" I will never buy anything else then "Complete/Ultimate Editions" on any game.
And I won't buy any game as long I need Origin.
CYA EA,
has been no nice time since very very long.
It's a marketing desaster, costs customers and has a lasting impact on EA and Bioware.
To play Bioware games you need a Bioware account AND Origin. Yeah nice guys.
Hope they know why I stopped buying games from Ubisoft.
And to make that clear, as long as I have to use "Bioware Points" I will never buy anything else then "Complete/Ultimate Editions" on any game.
And I won't buy any game as long I need Origin.
CYA EA,
has been no nice time since very very long.
Which comes full circle to explain why Valve is the greedier corporation. Valve saw a chance at profit being missed (DLC sales) and wanted a cut so they worked on a system that allows you to buy DLC from Steam as well as games. Then they enforced it because they wanted to ensure that cut will stay theirs.Clive Howlitzer said:
Games that are not "steam exclusive" (Anno 2070 and Tropico 4) you have bought through Steam now and in the future will require you to buy the DLC from steam in order to work which lets them get a "cut" out of the DLC sales; a substantial one if Steam is of any decent size. Games that are "steam exclusive" (Fallout New Vegas and Saints Row 3) will work but will send a cut to Steam as well as the original website you bought it from (An assumption but Valve strike me down and prove me wrong if this is false).
That, and they cant use their "Bioware points". They want to sell DLC straight through the game and not through Steam, basically cutting Valve out of sales, and obviously Valve said no.Igen said:
So lets see the list
-Can sell private info to advertisers.
-Slow memory hogging platform.
-AND now they being greedy self entitled children.
Nice EA...
You know if ME3 was available for preorder on Steam, without any Origin-spyware bullshit, I would have already bought it. Hell, if the retail version did not require Origin, I would have bought THAT in an instant, without Steam even. Guess I'll have to find some other way to enjoy the series.
And about Valve DLC policies - it was a nightmare to purchase DLC from Bioware with their "points". I prefer to just click the buy button on steam and pay from my personal wallet there, saves a lot of time and trouble.
And about Valve DLC policies - it was a nightmare to purchase DLC from Bioware with their "points". I prefer to just click the buy button on steam and pay from my personal wallet there, saves a lot of time and trouble.
You know, I wish that this would all unfold in a public forum, in 2012, where EA has a kind of "developer fight" with Valve. EA will begin by touting SWTOR, ME3, and BF3, and how awesome it is.
EA - "Valve, your time is over! You're an old has been, with nothing left to offer! We are now the masters of the gaming industry! You have nothing! SUCK IT VALVE!"
Gabe just sits there, calmly, and quietly. Then, without a word, he opens a briefcase and takes out a small box. On the box, is written, "HL3". EA shits a brick house and runs.
EA - "Valve, your time is over! You're an old has been, with nothing left to offer! We are now the masters of the gaming industry! You have nothing! SUCK IT VALVE!"
Gabe just sits there, calmly, and quietly. Then, without a word, he opens a briefcase and takes out a small box. On the box, is written, "HL3". EA shits a brick house and runs.
Except Steams EULA says that they will not give identifiable infomation away to 3rd parties without your permission and Origins says they can do whatever they want with it..EVEN after they changed it. Because of the wording absolutely nothing changed, since all they do is claim they are using the data for the bennefit of Origin and they are fine.Candidus said:
Oh and EA's "You can sue us policy" which you have to agree to when you use anything of theres.
Quite simply... no.
Its also a problem of how the DLC is used with the game. Basically it meams Steam is selling a product that seperate to Steam can download more content, than Steam hasnt checked or even verified. It means they cant give customer support to that game anymore bcause hey "You have content that we didnt supply and we dont have", you cant sync you game properly or work with the Steam cloud because once again, Steam doesnt know how to interact with that data.Gather said:
While selling DLC on Steam is partly to do with money ,Id have to say its just for convinience and common sense. If you have bonus content for soemthing or an extra part..you go to the store where you bought the original object, its not like Steam is asking for something that is out of the ordinary. And by EA coming out and saying "Actually no...you can sell the GAME..but then customers can buy anything else straight through us, not you..but the customers, oh theyll still use your servivce for the game and get all of the bonuses, they just pay us directly for the extras".
Id call Steam greedy if hey were the ones complaining, ie if they were the ones that actually created their policy in response to EA. Otherwise..they have a simple enough policy, and EA has tried to bypass it to make more money, and Valve said no. End of story really.
Not really sure what the big fuss is about. Seems to be the way PC gaming is going, so sign me up for Origin. I'm really not sure where all this misplaced loyalty to Steam comes from. Sure it's a decent enough service but it's no better or worse than Origin.
In fact, I'd rather follow a service whose parent company actually puts out a decent game more than once every 2-3 years.
Can't believe people are getting shitty over the fact that you need to remain connected to play multiplayer. Are you stupid? Yes, I know LAN parties still exist, but they shouldn't, because they smell fucking terrible.
In fact, I'd rather follow a service whose parent company actually puts out a decent game more than once every 2-3 years.
Can't believe people are getting shitty over the fact that you need to remain connected to play multiplayer. Are you stupid? Yes, I know LAN parties still exist, but they shouldn't, because they smell fucking terrible.
dammit, I wanted to play this game...oh well guess I can't until it comes over to steam T_T. I refuse to install origin on my computer.
its not loyalty to steam, but not wanting the malware filled pinata that is Origin on my computer. The thing literally records every website you go to, everything you do on your computer, and sends that data back to EA.VulakAerr said:
I will not use origin until those types of features are turned off.
I did pre-order Mass Effect 3... for PS3
Honestly, EA needs to have it drilled into their skulls that if they want to compete with Steam, they actually have to work for it instead of tryin to jam their hideous Origin service down our throats.
Honestly, EA needs to have it drilled into their skulls that if they want to compete with Steam, they actually have to work for it instead of tryin to jam their hideous Origin service down our throats.
if you guys still buy games that require origin, you tell pretty much ?A that they can get away with crap like this.
doesnt matter if you sandbox it or not.
just think about it for a moment.
doesnt matter if you sandbox it or not.
just think about it for a moment.
"Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service, namely, Steam has adopted a policy of not being our own in-house Origin distribution service or being owned by our company, thereby allowing us to reap a greater percentage of the profits."
There, I fixed it for you.
There, I fixed it for you.
