Mass Effect 3 Gives Steam a Miss at Launch
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For me, it's not a 'not available on Steam' thing...I just refuse to partake of Origin. If they make it available in some form (even not on Steam) *WITHOUT* requiring Origin, I'll get it then. Call it a 'pointless boycott' or whatever...I'm not boycotting EA subsidaries, etc...just the Origin disservice.
It isn't. The ToS for Origin clearly states that EA cannot sell any information gathered. It is for internal EA use only.Sylveria said:
EA want to sell their DLC directly to it's customers, Steam does not allow EA to do this. Steam wants a cut of the DLC money. That is the issue EA have with Steam. Any future EA games that don't have planned DLC will probably be available through Steam but will require Origin for activation. Steam and Origin aren't mutually exclusive.
Wait, WHAT?! Ugh! Way to twist my arm, EA! I want to see how Mass Effect ends, but not to the point where I'd download something of questionable trustworthiness!MisterShine said:
It's not just about "it won't be on Steam". It's "even if you have a physical copy, you need Origin to play" that gets me.
What EA says:Logan Westbrook said:
Steam's restrictive policies regarding downloadable content
What EA means:
Steam wants to take a bit off the top when a player buys DLC through steam
What EA says:
Steam's restrictive policies in interaction with customers
What A means:
We want to force people to sign up for Origin, and we can't do that if they're using Steam
What bothers me the most is that they won't just ADMIT that they want people to use their service. Which is an equally stupid, but at least less dickish press release.
At least then, it's "We'd prefer a larger cut of the profits" rather than some bullshit about Steam being a restrictive platform, despite NO ONE else having any sort of problems.
I don't mind you guys wanting a larger cut of the profits, but at LEAST be honest about it.
At least then, it's "We'd prefer a larger cut of the profits" rather than some bullshit about Steam being a restrictive platform, despite NO ONE else having any sort of problems.
I don't mind you guys wanting a larger cut of the profits, but at LEAST be honest about it.
...But it´s multiplayer! I see no reason for not needing an constant connection then.Jellly said:
OT: Seeing how often other developers patch and releases expansions packs for their games I doubt Valve have any really strict rules on how you´re allowed to do it.
But that´s just silly on EA's part, of course they want some of the money for the dlc if people are going to download it through steam and as such stress the download servers more.octafish said:
Oh noes, EA is forcing us to do what Valve has been doing for years, and that was with a service that started out as a piece of shit, screwing over people who brought half life 2 early on. At least Origin worked at launch. I don't get how people are fine with something that has become the standard for steam, but the second another company tries it, it's a sign that they are the devil.
Damn straight dude! Who cares if the graphics are better on PC? Not worth the damn hassle.Fayathon said:
I'm not such a fan of the Bioware Points, but I think the argument loses it's weight when you consider that Valve only got it's panties in a twist because it's those and not Steambucks. The whole deal is silly, and exactly the wrong reason to fracture these services either way. As an aside I sort of hate how Steam sells DLC "on the shelf" alongside full games, clutters up the store and makes me wish everything was handled in client.Irridium said:
There was already a forum post about this, so I'm just pasting in my previous response:
Yeah, I find it extremely odd how no one seems to remember how Steam was back when it began. And, if I remember correctly, many people were having similar knee-jerk reactions to it, declaring it spyware (which many people still do), dirty DRM, etc. (By the way, have any of you actually tried to see what Origin "takes" from your computer? These guys did.)
Whether or not people like it, EA has seen the writing on the wall. They know that physical retail won't be around for much longer, and decided that they want to be the first of the big publishers to get into the digital market, with the PC side being their test area. Over the course of the next couple of years (or perhaps even by the end of this one), they'll move their digital distribution to different platforms, with the eventual goal of drastically reducing or even eliminating physical sales of their games.
They also are aware that these first few years are not going to be pretty. Gamers, as they have shown in the past, are crazy averse to any changes in their hobby; a fact, of which, EA has been made aware of more times than you can count. They're betting that, like Steam, it will slowly ease into a space within the digital market that makes the service profitable, once the doomsday naysayers stop believing that EA is out to get them.
EA is only the first. Within the decade, I envision at least 2-3 other big-name publishers releasing their own digital distribution systems, as well as removing any and all support from Steam. It was fun while it lasted, but Valve won't always have the monopoly on the digital market. There will be legitimate competitors who will attempt to take a slice of that delicious digital pie that Gabe has enjoyed all on his own.
Yeah, I find it extremely odd how no one seems to remember how Steam was back when it began. And, if I remember correctly, many people were having similar knee-jerk reactions to it, declaring it spyware (which many people still do), dirty DRM, etc. (By the way, have any of you actually tried to see what Origin "takes" from your computer? These guys did.)
Whether or not people like it, EA has seen the writing on the wall. They know that physical retail won't be around for much longer, and decided that they want to be the first of the big publishers to get into the digital market, with the PC side being their test area. Over the course of the next couple of years (or perhaps even by the end of this one), they'll move their digital distribution to different platforms, with the eventual goal of drastically reducing or even eliminating physical sales of their games.
They also are aware that these first few years are not going to be pretty. Gamers, as they have shown in the past, are crazy averse to any changes in their hobby; a fact, of which, EA has been made aware of more times than you can count. They're betting that, like Steam, it will slowly ease into a space within the digital market that makes the service profitable, once the doomsday naysayers stop believing that EA is out to get them.
EA is only the first. Within the decade, I envision at least 2-3 other big-name publishers releasing their own digital distribution systems, as well as removing any and all support from Steam. It was fun while it lasted, but Valve won't always have the monopoly on the digital market. There will be legitimate competitors who will attempt to take a slice of that delicious digital pie that Gabe has enjoyed all on his own.
Internal use: take system specs/other personal information and plug them into oddly specific metrics.octafish said:
Those oddly specific metrics are now a product of EA that you do not have a stake in. EA then sells the information from those oddly specific metrics just like Facebook does.
Come on now, you cant be THAT dense...
[edit] Shado, you may have missed Activision doing something similar but much less intrusive a year before EA did. And Valve was the first. EA is just a large corporate gorilla with grabby hands.
thats why i dont get my self this game. really a shame. ?A really f***** it up with their spyware origin.
of course they dont like steam, because steam knows how to treat customers right and ?A wants to spy on other peoples pcs. ?A policy is to screw the customer and suck all the money out.
really a shame with ME3, was so looking forward to it. but i will not have origin on my pc.
of course they dont like steam, because steam knows how to treat customers right and ?A wants to spy on other peoples pcs. ?A policy is to screw the customer and suck all the money out.
really a shame with ME3, was so looking forward to it. but i will not have origin on my pc.
Because Steam has gone through it's growing pains and proven itself a useful drm scheme through sales, social intwinement/engagement, and conveniences such as autopatching and cloud support.Daymo said:
Origin could grow into something nice but it'll take time and nurturing. Something I'm not sure that EA is going to give it yet.
They sure have been slack with the engagement portion.
I'll be honest. It's annoying, and I'm disappointed. It isn't Bioware's fault, it's the buttmonkeys over at EA that are the problem. The only thing I want to know, is if I can uninstall Origin after activation. Still waiting priestly's answer on that. If so, great, no problem for me. If not... Ugh. I'm not gonna cancel my pre-order, but I'm going to be running origin in offline mode, and it's only going to get started up when I play ME3.
I'll be running ME3 and Origin behind a Virtual Machine. Suck it E.A, suck it and your bloated spyware.