So...when Batman does this, the forums are littered with hate and tons of, "Well, I'm not buying this game anymore," posts. When Mass Effect does it, everyone just shrugs and accepts it. Did I miss something?
Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer Requires Online Pass
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Kevlar Eater said:
this is common sense, is it not?Harry Mason said:
but yeah, if they require an ADDITIONAL online pass for local co op, then you bet your ass my pitchfork will be sharpened to the highest degree possible.
That's why it's my new belief that gamers need to start to band together on this. If you buy a game new and don't want to or can't use the online code then there should be a place where you can go to give it or sell it (for 2-5 bucks) to someone that would use it. Like I said up above you get a little bit of exposure and a site like that could really take off and begin to be a thorn in these publishers' sides.Eccentric_Jon said:
There are. If you play these side missions, it increases your "Galaxy prepared" meter in the single player, which has to do with how many people will live, or something like that.DustyDrB said:
OT: Here's an idea: You allow the people to play the multiplayer secondhand, but if they don't put in a code, you sell ad space in the loading screens?
Common: New players don't have to bother, used players still get to play the game, and the company gets revenue from ads to pay for server upkeep because there will always be new people selling their games, and new players coming in.
I like that they lock the most unnecessary part of the game. So I still feel no pressure to buy new.
That would be bullshit... though this assumes they are including local co-op, and come on who still plays video games with buddies in their living room? Everyone plays online now!... Oh wait... No that's not true at all. Publishers don't understand their own demographics do they?Harry Mason said:
Where the fuck did my local 4-player gameplay go?
Give it a few more years they will do this and make you pay for a pass. Look at the in game ads in thier sports games.CM156 said:
Three differences:Sniper Team 4 said:
1. With Catwoman, she's been on display as a playable character and has been said to be a big part of the fun for literally months now by the developers, and then all of a sudden they're like "Oh, playing as Catwoman sounds cool to you? Better buy new! Har har har". ME multiplayer was announced a few days ago, and we don't even know that much about it.
2. Catwoman's sections are single player, offline modes which REQUIRE online activation. What if the person who buys the game can't get online? ME's multiplayer mode obviously requires you to be online to use its features in the first place.
3. Who the hell plays Mass Effect for multiplayer? Anyone who was already excited for the game doesn't care two Iota's whether the mode is in the game or not.
and personally, I don't care about new sale "bonuses" like this since I always buy new and I feel it is fair that if you buy a used product, you have to deal with the fact it isn't quite as good as a new one would've been. Also it's frelling Mass Effect 3, they could charge me 100 bucks and a blood sample and I'd do it with a smile on my face.
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Well now I'm curious Smash, did you not buy the second game new either, or is this a recent stance you've taken? Or do you feel there are differences between the cerberus network and this.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Haters, I direct you to this: http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/project-ten-dollar
The discussion of fixing the problems is nice, but crucial is the fact that there is an extremely reasonable justification for charging this and that justification isn't just "we can totally get away with screwing customers more".
The discussion of fixing the problems is nice, but crucial is the fact that there is an extremely reasonable justification for charging this and that justification isn't just "we can totally get away with screwing customers more".
The amount of rage console only gamers have over this never ceases to amuse me.
As someone who has played on both console and PC for years, "Project $10" is nothing new. It just goes by another name in PC games called a "CD key". Even games on Steam use keys, you just don't have to input them, that game you bought is still tied to a key.
How is showing a proof of purchase 'infringing on consumer rights'? Do you scream at the person who checks your receipt every time you leave a Fry's? Or how about if you return something and the retailer requires you to have the receipt? Or anytime you buy something and the receipt prints? "ARE YOU GIVING ME PROOF I BOUGHT THIS?! RARRRRASDKLNSLKFNDSKFSDRAGEEEEEE!"
As someone who has played on both console and PC for years, "Project $10" is nothing new. It just goes by another name in PC games called a "CD key". Even games on Steam use keys, you just don't have to input them, that game you bought is still tied to a key.
How is showing a proof of purchase 'infringing on consumer rights'? Do you scream at the person who checks your receipt every time you leave a Fry's? Or how about if you return something and the retailer requires you to have the receipt? Or anytime you buy something and the receipt prints? "ARE YOU GIVING ME PROOF I BOUGHT THIS?! RARRRRASDKLNSLKFNDSKFSDRAGEEEEEE!"
I think you missed the end point of that episode, then, dear reader. It says you should not try to hurt the consumer, you should try to get around Gamestop. There is a difference. A big difference. What this is, is charging all people who got an item second hand.Jaime_Wolf said:
I'm glad they're doing this. Stop being a cheep ass and buy the game new or stop bitching about it
Yeah, I don't intend to play online, but I'm still waiting to hear whether or not local co-op will even be supported (let alone requires a pass). I'll probably only check out the multiplayer anyway if I can get a friend to join me in person rather than xXxASS@VIOLATOR_HAX_LOLxXxHarry Mason said:
Well in a way this is getting around gamestop because it forces the price of a used copy down by at least the price of the online pass otherwise gamestop will end up in the shit like thay have before with this (see dragon age)CM156 said:
So basically people who buy used but don't care for multiplayer get a better deal and people who want multiplayer end up paying the same as a normal used copy but more profits go to the devs not gamestop or some other middleman. So in essence the only people this screws over is gamestop because if you end up paying more for a used copy with the pass than a new copy the only person screwing you is gamestop for failing basic economics