Yeah, but if it does, it will still require Origin. Only if people don't buy their shit until Origin is removed will we ever get games that don't require EA'ssnowplow said:EA calling steam restrictive is laughable.
I guess the good news is that it MIGHT eventually be on steam, meaning i MIGHT eventually purchase it, if its on sale.
If the stuff in the leaked story documents remains in place (and it would take a lot of work to change it at this point), you may not want to see the ending at all.PurePareidolia said:I'm not buying Mass Effect 3 because of it. I want to see the ending, but not that much.
1. Accept that some people don't want a restricted 8-year old computer. I only got one because I found one dirt-cheap and wanted to finish the Gears trilogy.xPixelatedx said:God guys, just bite the bullet and get it for your Xbox/PS3. You should have one of those in this day and age unless you are somehow trying to avoid 90% of games made in this century. And this is Mass Effect, not BF3. You aren't going to see a night and day difference in graphics by using a console.
No we don't. I know I don't. I've been with it since the beginning. I recall quite vividly how terrible it was. (operative word being WAS)Tayh said:Sweet, a competitor to steam's monopoly appears.
Oh, you mean just like Valve offers alternative non-steam releases for their Source games?Adam Jensen said:EA is shooting itself in the foot by not releasing it via Steamworks. -snip- If they had any faith in their Origin, they wouldn't make it mandatory to play their games, and they wouldn't exclude Steam. Fuckin' imbeciles. Instead of not releasing their games on Steam they should draw people towards Origin by offering exclusive bonuses for Origin version.
Yeah, that's so awesome, I love being able to choos... Oh wait.
I think it's funny how many people hate Origin, and then turn around and praise steam for being exactly the same.
I guess people forgot how buggy and hideous steam was in the beginning.
Or, you know, another game.Kahunaburger said:Well, that bumped ME3 off my 2012 games list. Now I have $60 to spend on books or something. Thanks, EA!
These were my thoughts exactly. It's absolutely mind-boggling the kind of shit that EA tries to pull. It's so... scummy.evilneko said:Not purchasing ME3 now.
Objectionable portion of Origin EULA:
Egregious unnecessary spying clause highlighted.In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects non-
personally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our
products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of
software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as
communicating with you. The non-personally identifiable information that EA
collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer
(including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as
information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful
installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
Translation: "We get to peek at what else you have installed on your system and how often you use it, as well as peek at whatever hardware you have, and we get to do it all without letting you opt out. Nice tax returns by the way, hey, we see you use TaxCut, did you know TurboTax is better? Yeah, might wanna try it. Oh, if you don't consent to all this, you don't get to play Mass Effect 3. Have a nice day."
EA doesn't need to gather this information silently, behind users' backs and essentially without their consent. Sure some of it could be useful during troubleshooting, such as which antivirus or firewall you might be running, but they could ask for that if and when necessary. They could even have a button to click to generate a problem report containing the relevant info. Instead, this gives them carte blanche to look at everything, silently, with no way to stop it.
It's disgusting.
It's spyware.
Oh dear God, please PLEASE let the 2012 nut-jobs be right about this year being the "end of days". Because, there is no way I could live in a future like that. *shiver*Bradeck said:And THIS is why SOPA will pass. Because the general sentiment among people like us is;
OMG THAT SUCKS, HOW FUCKING UNFAIR!!! FUCK! I guess I'll buy it...because I'm too lazy/devoted/addicted to not just go along with whatever they throw at me.
EA could come out tomorrow and say Origin requires that we rape your mother anally, and people would still be pre-ordering ME3, 4, and Mass Effect: The Revengening of the Smoking man.
Look, I for one have chose to miss out on all the great games that EA is putting out. Battlefield, Mass Effect1,2, and 3, and SWTOR. That being said, because of the state of our group, I fully expect Steam to collapse and Origin to be the only DD service by 2020. Also, Sarah Palin will be president, and Michelle Bachman vice president.
Well, find the information and post it here. I'm not saying you're wrong. I really don't know. I would love for this to not be a controversial thing so we can have the warm fuzziness of everyone enjoying an awesome game at the same time (pretty much how it was here when ME2 was released. The criticism only really started months later).major_chaos said:sigh, another thread for people to grossly exaggerate how invasive origin is and pretend that many other thing aren't just as nosy, while also bowing at the feet of holy steam and its flawlessness(lolno). people seem to be unaware that others have looked at what Origin accesses and it isn't that much, certainly less then what steam asks to take in those pointless "we want every scrap of information on your PC, and no we wont tell you why" surveys. this news is unsurprising and will not make me think twice about getting ME3 the second it launches.
First off I didn't say anything that could even remotly be contributed to condoning origin, I just outright said 'don't play it on the PC and you'll be fine'. Also if that number you gave (5%) is more accurate then mine and basically every game was made for the PC to (I am not counting emulation), and given what I know PC's are capable of... shouldn't PC gaming be doing better and not worse then the consoles right now? I mean, you can't even find PC games at most places, and the places that do sell them have selections that are being scaled down each year. I know that's in part to digital distribution, but also that's not entirely the reason as many people in the gaming business have discussed in countless blogs and articles. And as much as you might like to disagree with them (I am sure you do already) the very fact that PC games are now suffering because they are made more as ports from consoles (instead of the other way around) is just more bad news for PC gaming. Unless it's a game that offers something it's console counterpart doesn't (like the million+ mods skyrim is getting or the amazing visuals BF3 has) chances are the console sales are going to trample the PC sales out of existence.Lordmarkus said:1. Accept that some people don't want a restricted 8-year old computer. I only got one because I found one dirt-cheap and wanted to finish the Gears trilogy.xPixelatedx said:God guys, just bite the bullet and get it for your Xbox/PS3. You should have one of those in this day and age unless you are somehow trying to avoid 90% of games made in this century. And this is Mass Effect, not BF3. You aren't going to see a night and day difference in graphics by using a console.
2. 90 %? Try 5 % of all of the western games made the last 10 years.
3. Understand that our Shepards won't magicly appear in our imaginary console-boxes just because we wish so damn hard.
4. Accept that compared to the PC, the controls for Console Mass Effect are incredibly clunky.
5. Accept that some people doesn't want bloated mega-corporations to nift through their personal data.
6. Stop being an arse because you don't understand that some people don't want neither a console or forced spyware on their comps.
I think it's less a boycott and more a "why am I installing spyware on my computer to play this game when I could have other games and no spyware instead?"Veldrenor said:Buying Mass Effect 3 for console instead of PC will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Mass Effect franchise will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Battlefield franchise, the Crysis franchise, the Dragon Age franchise, the Dead Space franchise, or many of EA's other titles will not get EA to change the Origin policy. The only people who get hurt are the developers of such titles. After all, EA's practically got a monopoly on the sports gaming market. Their general policy is that everything else is just niche market chump-change in comparison.