Mass Effect 3 PC will require Orgin

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Zenode

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WHY OH WHY MUST THEY MAKE EA GAMES REQUIRE EA'S SERVICE AND NOTHING ELSE!

on the flip side

WHY OH WHY MUST THEY MAKE VALVE GAMES REQUIRE VALVES SERVICE AND NOTHING ELSE!
 

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It's at times like this that I am really glad I have never played a Mass Effect game or even cared to play one. Because if I was an ME fan, I would kind of be up shit creek right now. Then again, I don't think I would. I would just watch a full playthrough on YouTube, just as a way to say, "Fuck you EA, you can't make me let you spy on me!"

snowplow said:
EA calling steam restrictive is laughable.
I guess the good news is that it MIGHT eventually be on steam, meaning i MIGHT eventually purchase it, if its on sale.
Yeah, but if it does, it will still require Origin. Only if people don't buy their shit until Origin is removed will we ever get games that don't require EA's spyware copy-protection software.
 

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PurePareidolia said:
I'm not buying Mass Effect 3 because of it. I want to see the ending, but not that much.
If the stuff in the leaked story documents remains in place (and it would take a lot of work to change it at this point), you may not want to see the ending at all.

I was already fairly set on avoiding this - the Origin requirement just reinforces that decision.
 

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xPixelatedx said:
God guys, just bite the bullet and get it for your Xbox/PS3. You should have one of those in this day and age unless you are somehow trying to avoid 90% of games made in this century. And this is Mass Effect, not BF3. You aren't going to see a night and day difference in graphics by using a console.
1. Accept that some people don't want a restricted 8-year old computer. I only got one because I found one dirt-cheap and wanted to finish the Gears trilogy.

2. 90 %? Try 5 % of all of the western games made the last 10 years.

3. Understand that our Shepards won't magicly appear in our imaginary console-boxes just because we wish so damn hard.

4. Accept that compared to the PC, the controls for Console Mass Effect are incredibly clunky.

5. Accept that some people doesn't want bloated mega-corporations to nift through their personal data.

6. Stop being an arse because you don't understand that some people don't want neither a console or forced spyware on their comps.
 

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For once, I'm happy to be a console gamer.

No cruddy software keeping me down!

But the question still remains: Will I even get Mass Effect 3? I suppose only time will tell.
 

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Tayh said:
Sweet, a competitor to steam's monopoly appears.
Adam Jensen said:
EA is shooting itself in the foot by not releasing it via Steamworks. -snip- If they had any faith in their Origin, they wouldn't make it mandatory to play their games, and they wouldn't exclude Steam. Fuckin' imbeciles. Instead of not releasing their games on Steam they should draw people towards Origin by offering exclusive bonuses for Origin version.
Oh, you mean just like Valve offers alternative non-steam releases for their Source games?
Yeah, that's so awesome, I love being able to choos... Oh wait.

I think it's funny how many people hate Origin, and then turn around and praise steam for being exactly the same.
I guess people forgot how buggy and hideous steam was in the beginning.
No we don't. I know I don't. I've been with it since the beginning. I recall quite vividly how terrible it was. (operative word being WAS)

But you know what? That's not the issue here. But for discussions sake, let's make a few quick comparisons, shall we?

EA - multi-billion dollar corporation, employing and funding thousands, and has been in operation for over two decades.
Valve - company comprised of, at this point, less than 250 people.

When Valve first released Steam, they were breaking new ground. Add to that that they didn't exactly have the knowledge, resources, or funding to make it a perfect system at start and one can see why Steam was so buggy. That it's become what it is is nothing less than impressive.

EA, on the other hand, has been trying to make their own DD service for years. Origin is hardly their first attempt. Yet, it's still a colossal pile of sh#t. But why? They have the funding. They have the experience. And God knows they have a wealth of industry knowledge to pull from on what to and what not to do.

Valve had an excuse back then. What's EA's excuse now?

(and don't even get me started on the BS information collection policies and their unbelievably stupid "account ban" procedures.)
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Well, that bumped ME3 off my 2012 games list. Now I have $60 to spend on books or something. Thanks, EA!
Or, you know, another game.

Like say....Diablo 3? <.<

That is, if it's ever released...

Know what? Never mind. Books are a better idea anyway. People don't read nearly enough anymore.
 

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evilneko said:
Not purchasing ME3 now.

Objectionable portion of Origin EULA:
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects non-
personally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our
products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of
software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as
communicating with you. The non-personally identifiable information that EA
collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer
(including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as
information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful
installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
Egregious unnecessary spying clause highlighted.

Translation: "We get to peek at what else you have installed on your system and how often you use it, as well as peek at whatever hardware you have, and we get to do it all without letting you opt out. Nice tax returns by the way, hey, we see you use TaxCut, did you know TurboTax is better? Yeah, might wanna try it. Oh, if you don't consent to all this, you don't get to play Mass Effect 3. Have a nice day."

EA doesn't need to gather this information silently, behind users' backs and essentially without their consent. Sure some of it could be useful during troubleshooting, such as which antivirus or firewall you might be running, but they could ask for that if and when necessary. They could even have a button to click to generate a problem report containing the relevant info. Instead, this gives them carte blanche to look at everything, silently, with no way to stop it.

It's disgusting.

It's spyware.
These were my thoughts exactly. It's absolutely mind-boggling the kind of shit that EA tries to pull. It's so... scummy.
 

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That's annoying, I've always hated having to install a seperate piece of software to play a game.

I do enjoy reading all these hilarious objections to Origin though. It's worth it just for that.
 

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Bradeck said:
And THIS is why SOPA will pass. Because the general sentiment among people like us is;

OMG THAT SUCKS, HOW FUCKING UNFAIR!!! FUCK! I guess I'll buy it...because I'm too lazy/devoted/addicted to not just go along with whatever they throw at me.

EA could come out tomorrow and say Origin requires that we rape your mother anally, and people would still be pre-ordering ME3, 4, and Mass Effect: The Revengening of the Smoking man.

Look, I for one have chose to miss out on all the great games that EA is putting out. Battlefield, Mass Effect1,2, and 3, and SWTOR. That being said, because of the state of our group, I fully expect Steam to collapse and Origin to be the only DD service by 2020. Also, Sarah Palin will be president, and Michelle Bachman vice president.
Oh dear God, please PLEASE let the 2012 nut-jobs be right about this year being the "end of days". Because, there is no way I could live in a future like that. *shiver*
 

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Till Origin opts out on scanning my computer's set of HDDs, hardware in general and the software on it, I'm not going to bother with it. I know Steam does the same but the difference is, Steam only scans the folders in the Steam folder to prevent cheating and it ASKS the user if they'd like to participate in a hardware survey. Big difference.
 

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sigh, another thread for people to grossly exaggerate how invasive origin is and pretend that many other thing aren't just as nosy, while also bowing at the feet of holy steam and its flawlessness(lolno). people seem to be unaware that others have looked at what Origin accesses and it isn't that much, certainly less then what steam asks to take in those pointless "we want every scrap of information on your PC, and no we wont tell you why" surveys. this news is unsurprising and will not make me think twice about getting ME3 the second it launches.
 

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I'm still going to buy it, I'll just have to either Sandbox Origin, or get the inevitable no Origin crack. I have no interest in multiplayer, so playing a cracked version isn't an issue for me. Thank you EA for adding some extra steps I have to go through to play the game.
 

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major_chaos said:
sigh, another thread for people to grossly exaggerate how invasive origin is and pretend that many other thing aren't just as nosy, while also bowing at the feet of holy steam and its flawlessness(lolno). people seem to be unaware that others have looked at what Origin accesses and it isn't that much, certainly less then what steam asks to take in those pointless "we want every scrap of information on your PC, and no we wont tell you why" surveys. this news is unsurprising and will not make me think twice about getting ME3 the second it launches.
Well, find the information and post it here. I'm not saying you're wrong. I really don't know. I would love for this to not be a controversial thing so we can have the warm fuzziness of everyone enjoying an awesome game at the same time (pretty much how it was here when ME2 was released. The criticism only really started months later).

Don't just brush people's concerns aside, though. If you have information to the contrary, share it.
 

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Lordmarkus said:
xPixelatedx said:
God guys, just bite the bullet and get it for your Xbox/PS3. You should have one of those in this day and age unless you are somehow trying to avoid 90% of games made in this century. And this is Mass Effect, not BF3. You aren't going to see a night and day difference in graphics by using a console.
1. Accept that some people don't want a restricted 8-year old computer. I only got one because I found one dirt-cheap and wanted to finish the Gears trilogy.

2. 90 %? Try 5 % of all of the western games made the last 10 years.

3. Understand that our Shepards won't magicly appear in our imaginary console-boxes just because we wish so damn hard.

4. Accept that compared to the PC, the controls for Console Mass Effect are incredibly clunky.

5. Accept that some people doesn't want bloated mega-corporations to nift through their personal data.

6. Stop being an arse because you don't understand that some people don't want neither a console or forced spyware on their comps.
First off I didn't say anything that could even remotly be contributed to condoning origin, I just outright said 'don't play it on the PC and you'll be fine'. Also if that number you gave (5%) is more accurate then mine and basically every game was made for the PC to (I am not counting emulation), and given what I know PC's are capable of... shouldn't PC gaming be doing better and not worse then the consoles right now? I mean, you can't even find PC games at most places, and the places that do sell them have selections that are being scaled down each year. I know that's in part to digital distribution, but also that's not entirely the reason as many people in the gaming business have discussed in countless blogs and articles. And as much as you might like to disagree with them (I am sure you do already) the very fact that PC games are now suffering because they are made more as ports from consoles (instead of the other way around) is just more bad news for PC gaming. Unless it's a game that offers something it's console counterpart doesn't (like the million+ mods skyrim is getting or the amazing visuals BF3 has) chances are the console sales are going to trample the PC sales out of existence.

I also in no way said the console is better then the PC, I simply what to remind people that if you are a fan of gaming, chances are you have a console of some kind so you can play the rest of the existing library gaming has to offer (Like Zelda, mario, Halo and God of war etc.). In this day and age it's bizarre if you don't have at least one console (that's like saying you don't have a cel-phone), and that said it is kind of snooty to make an absolute deceleration that 'you MUST play ME3 on a PC' and simultaneously complain about it being full of spy-ware when you have a perfectly usable backup sitting right next to you the whole time. I didn't tell anyone to go out and buy an xbox, but if you have one there really isn't a reason to complain, the game doesn't look that much better on a PC you are still getting the same experience when you play it on your TV.

I also realize you won't be able to import your Shepards from PC to console, in which case you are going to have to choose either spyware and game imports, or no spyware and no game imports. Thankfully this is not something I will have to worry about.

I have not yet played Mass Effect; I have been waiting for all three to be out so I could play them back to back. I went to go pick up both 1 and 2 and even after constant pestering from friends to get it on the PC, I got them on the xbox. The reason being that was all around the time there was so much DRM controversy for what ever games were currently out. I have been noticing this crap has been getting worse every year. Just one of many things that constantly pushes me away from PC gaming, and I had a feeling by the time ME3 was out, something even more horrible would come through the tubes, and I was right.
 

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I will simply wait for the pirates to come up with a crack, then play my legally purchased copy of ME3 without such corporate manipulations.
 

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Buying Mass Effect 3 for console instead of PC will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Mass Effect franchise will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Battlefield franchise, the Crysis franchise, the Dragon Age franchise, the Dead Space franchise, or many of EA's other titles will not get EA to change the Origin policy. The only people who get hurt are the developers of such titles. After all, EA's practically got a monopoly on the sports gaming market. Their general policy is that everything else is just niche market chump-change in comparison.
 

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Veldrenor said:
Buying Mass Effect 3 for console instead of PC will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Mass Effect franchise will not get EA to change the Origin policy. Boycotting the Battlefield franchise, the Crysis franchise, the Dragon Age franchise, the Dead Space franchise, or many of EA's other titles will not get EA to change the Origin policy. The only people who get hurt are the developers of such titles. After all, EA's practically got a monopoly on the sports gaming market. Their general policy is that everything else is just niche market chump-change in comparison.
I think it's less a boycott and more a "why am I installing spyware on my computer to play this game when I could have other games and no spyware instead?"