Mass Effect 3: Retake This

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Grey Carter said:
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
That was not a joke, just an insult. Myself, I am not part of any movement. I have not even played ME3.
 

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I didn't say it had to be deep and meaningful. I said that there weren't any particularly good face meanings, so unless there was a deep meaning that I didn't see, it was just meaningless.

They made marketing statements that lead me to believe that the comic would be deep and meaningful. We were deceived.

Retake Critical Miss. Demand a better punchline.
Hehehehehe! Heh heh! Good joke. IT was a joke, right? Right? Right??

[sub]Please god, let it be a joke[/sub]
The fact that you couldn't just tell by the content of my post, nevermind the content of the subsequent one in which I claim to be bumming for "cupcake money," disturbs me.
 

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Woodsey said:
chiefohara said:
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chiefohara said:
Primary school level trolling trying to pass itself off as clever 'satire'

Poor form critical miss.
Being clever is somewhat relative to others, so considering the number of people who didn't get it, kicked off, and then made themselves the arse-end of the joke (the actual final panel is the comments section), I'd say it's very clever.

Let this be clear to people who still don't get it: you are not the butt of the joke if you supported the Retake Mass Effect thing. You are the pay-off for the joke if you threw up a *****-fit in this comments section about how the strip is insulting you for supporting Retake Mass Effect, and began claiming that this strip was yet another example of game sites taking sides with BioWare.
To be honest, i find that a stretch, but fair enough. If thats how you read it, then thats how you read it. I personally just saw it as a convenient way to generate web traffic for the sake of generating web traffic. We get enough trolling in the day to day forums of most websites, i don't need to see it encouraged on the featured content of the escapist.
"I personally just saw it as a convenient way to generate web traffic for the sake of generating web traffic."

Well yeah, that is the joke. If no one had commented then it wouldn't have worked. The strip shows a couple of writers coming up with the most blatantly provocative headline they can so to get as many hits as possible, and the point of the strip is to show how fucking well it works.
It works in the short term, but its corrosive to your product in the long term. I hate tabloid hack journalism that vindicates itself by saying 'Nyah Nyah Nyah made you look!!" The more Critical miss stoops to that for instant traffic hits the sooner it will reach the end of its shelf life.

I never had any major love or animosity for critical miss, but this latest club-handed effort has dropped it down a notch in my estimation. I've seen the point its making umpteen times, and i've seen it made better. They are trolling with a 'get out of jail free card' here because if you retort it "Proves" their point. This is kindergarden stuff Woodsey, Critical miss should be better than this.
 

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Cephei Mordred said:
chiefohara said:
Cephei Mordred said:
chiefohara said:
Primary school level trolling trying to pass itself off as clever 'satire'

Poor form critical miss.
They got over 250 comments, plus whatever they got on facebook.

I say they succeeded.
That's why im calling poor form. Its obvious that their motivation in this is not to make a point, but to score easy web traffic and ratings by being controversial and crude.

I appreciate wit, but this strip is just attention seeking.
The attention, which you have just given them?

My point stands.
I outlined this already in my post to woodsey, but yeah, they got my attention this week. Chances are they won't get it next week however, or the week after or the week after that, and im probably not the only one who is tempted to stop reading if they continue with this type of strip.

So who's the one ultimately losing out here Cephei?

If you use crude attention grabbing methods for short term attention, you'll lose out in the long term, both in quality and reputation.
 

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This is how the world ends, not with a bang, but with the cry of an angry fanboy...
 

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boy I sure am glad we did this, all this arguing and crummy feelings on both sides of the divide sure was worth the joke yes sir. Reinforced derision for a wide group of people, tweaked noses at being the butt of a joke.

Hey! Maybe we can do a joke making fun of Furries or Otaku or something and be REALLY cool, that's what you do to be cool on the internet right?
 

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noobartist1 said:
Teresa Lass said:
Bigeyez said:
Teresa Lass said:
trollpwner said:
Teresa Lass said:
Sigh
Let me put it in other words: when your laughed at is difficult to laugh at the joke.
Yeah, but the joke in this is squarely aimed at the people who deliberately stir up trouble to gain money... I'm not sure what it means if you consider yourself to be the 'victim' of the joke.
Well its aimed for moking the retake movement, in one way or another. So i guess as part of the movement i cant laugh at the joke.
While i dont consider myself victimized, in all and all its just a couple of ppl making a joke of already old news.

Again tho, cant laugh.
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So you didn't get it at all then. They AREN'T making fun of the retake movement in this comic.

Okkkkk
before we continue this, click on the comic page --previous-- and read it.
Still thinking they are not making fun of the movement?
That older strip: yes, it is making fun of the movement.

This current strip? No. Not even close. It maybe using the "current affairs" of ME3, but it is not even close to making fun of the movement.


For a comic strip which has so many sudden topic-switching single-use-strips and very, very few arcs (Steam, the accident, etc), you sure like to connect them all together.
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Or are you still believing that every single Critical Miss we've read so far is about crumpets? You know, since the first one mentioned crumpets...
LOL
So you think the part where they despise the ReTake movement (i read the reviews on the previous one) simply vanishes in the current one?
Yes i know the joke is about antagonizing people in order to get views and money, more so the ReTake movement from where it can get money to make for example t-shirts. A mokery of the people who takes advantage of the rage of others.

It still calls the supporters crybabies, one way or another, yes?
 

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When the Prisoner ended on television, people were pissed off too, even going as far as harassing Patrick McGoohan on the streets.

Today the final episode of the Prisoner is considered one of the greatest gaianax endings of all time.

Morale of this tale: Grow the fuck up.
I liked the ending of ME3, but I understand not everybody was happy with it. That is ok, it is good to have an opinion of your own.
But it is true that people overreacted, with all the actions and "demanding" an apology... Did you not enjoy all those hours playing mass effect games? Is the ending really that bad to taint the memory of those hours?
Affcorse not.
People who dislike the ending = normal.
People who whine and ***** about it = self-entitled little bitches.
 

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People really need to remember that they get to see someone's artistic vision, not control it. Yes it sucks that the ending was not what we wanted but that doesn't mean you get to throw a tantrum and demand they redo it to your liking.

For a parallel, I'm reading 'A Song of Ice and Fire' right now and I'm at the bit where

Robb dies.

I don't like it but i'm not going to email the author and demand he rewrites the entire thing just so i can have it my way.

Yes you can complain and say that you had hoped that it was better than it was, that's a reasonable thing to do. But to demand they change their work, something they thought was good, just to please you is really, really, really childish.
 

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Teresa Lass said:
LOL
So you think the part where they despise the ReTake movement (i read the reviews on the previous one) simply vanishes in the current one?
Yes i know the joke is about antagonizing people in order to get views and money, more so the ReTake movement from where it can get money to make for example t-shirts. A mokery of the people who takes advantage of the rage of others.

It still calls the supporters crybabies, one way or another, yes?
The point, which you keep missing, is that "EVIL BOSS" is PURPOSELY calling you CRYBABIES. ON PURPOSE. And in order to GET YOU ANGRY. So they can SELL MORE, based on your SWEET SWEET TEARS.

Thus: me laughing at you (and others in the comments section) for missing the entire point simply because you're too angry to process the actual message even when your intellectual side is trying to get past all the ARGGGGGG!!!! and RAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEE!!! to tell you that you're kinda missing the point...

Cry more, guys. Cry more. Someone's getting a lot of traffic, and perhaps selling merchandise, but definitely making money, all because you're too angry to process this sad fact...

Which is, incidentally, the entire point of this comic.

tldr: You rage, they $$. Yet you can't help but rage. Thus me = LoL at comments, even more than the actual strip.

Grey Carter said:
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
Erm... ... ... right.
*slinks away*

(Note: Was never part of the movement. I think the endings sux, but is not one who would want to force-change it.

But you gotta admit, that other ME3 movement strip? Its kinda like a sledgehammer. Just like quite a lot of your other strips. You can't really deny you went hard on those guys, can you? Just like the people you're parodying this very strip?

... And to be honest? That's the way I like it. Keep the sledgehammer coming, on things I like and things I hate. I can't promise you I'll like all your output, especially if it hits too close to home, but I'm still a fan.)
 

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noobartist1 said:
The point, which you keep missing, is that "EVIL BOSS" is PURPOSELY calling you CRYBABIES. ON PURPOSE. And in order to GET YOU ANGRY. So they can SELL MORE, based on your SWEET SWEET TEARS.

Thus: me laughing at you (and others in the comments section) for missing the entire point simply because you're too angry to process the actual message even when your intellectual side is trying to get past all the ARGGGGGG!!!! and RAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEE!!! to tell you that you're kinda missing the point...

Cry more, guys. Cry more. Someone's getting a lot of traffic, and perhaps selling merchandise, but definitely making money, all because you're too angry to process this sad fact...

Which is, incidentally, the entire point of this comic.

tldr: You rage, they $$. Yet you can't help but rage. Thus me = LoL at comments, even more than the actual strip.

Grey Carter said:
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
Erm... ... ... right.
*slinks away*

(Note: Was never part of the movement. I think the endings sux, but is not one who would want to force-change it.

But you gotta admit, that other ME3 movement strip? Its kinda like a sledgehammer. Just like quite a lot of your other strips. You can't really deny you went hard on those guys, can you? Just like the people you're parodying this very strip?

... And to be honest? That's the way I like it. Keep the sledgehammer coming, on things I like and things I hate. I can't promise you I'll like all your output, especially if it hits too close to home, but I'm still a fan.)

ahh???
***Stares***

***Shrugs***

***Smiles***

:D


Edit:
PS: I dont get in what side you are, i see you both bashing me and the strip itself, then grey says exactly what i was saying...ummm.
 

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Fawxy said:
Why the fuck are people taking this strip seriously? They're obviously poking fun at the whole situation, not just the fans' supposed "entitlement".
I don't think the comic authors even know what their point was.
 

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Grey Carter said:
noobartist1 said:
Its a double whammy actually, now that I think about it:

a) It generates traffic for the Escapist primarily by hooking onto the trolling that has been going on with ME3, the retake movement, etc. What's not to love about yet another online gaming site calling all of us ME3 playing folk entitled babies???

b) At the same time, it lampoons everything about point (a) and everybody involved in "gaming journalism", showing us how low some editors can go just for traffic-generating content... including this very site.

Including this very comic strip, just one issue earlier.

* am chucking more now thanks to fridge-logic, and is applauding Grey Carter for a job well done *
Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke.
"Make fun of everything and everyone but me and the things I like."
 

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I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
 

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Teresa Lass said:
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PS: I dont get in what side you are, i see you both bashing me and the strip itself, then grey says exactly what i was saying...ummm.
Note that you're talking about the ME3 movement being bashed by THIS comic (and not the Critical Miss before this one), in the last few of your posts. You see nothing but "bashing ME3 movement", even if you do/do not see the underlying joke.

I am pointing out that you can't exactly see past "ME3 movement bashing" in my post.

Case in point: The authors could have put in fan whining about Dragon-Age map-repeat, Final Fantasy "railroad maps", Duke Nukem, North Korea Missile Launch, etc... as the main topic of this strip, and it would still be able to hold itself, simply because the topic/message is NOT "ME3 movement bashing".

Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
 

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noobartist1 said:
Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
Heh, rather than wasting my time I guess I'll accept that it doesn't make any sense, if you only consider the context given within the strip itself.
 

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Uszi said:
noobartist1 said:
Uszi said:
I guess I'm confused. Are the people in the final panel established characters? Why is there a bear loading boxes?
Welcome to Critical Miss. You might want to re-read the first few strips, almost everybody in the last panel, the bear included, are introduced in the first ten or so strips...
Heh, rather than wasting my time I guess I'll accept that it doesn't make any sense, if you only consider the context given within the strip itself.
Yes because they should reintroduce every character every single time they appear in a strip, just to appease the lazy and memory impaired.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Yes because they should reintroduce every character every single time they appear in a strip, just to appease the lazy and memory impaired.
Heh, if it doesn't make any sense without that context? Maybe.

Though I would agree that people who are both lazy and memory impaired aren't a key demographic of anything really. They'd forget as soon as you explained it!

I happen to be in neither demographic. As a new reader, I have no knowledge of characters introduced in the first ten strips, but haven't been in the strips for weeks, so I can't be memory impaired.

As someone who didn't find this particular strip particularly illuminating or enlightening since it lacked important context, I'm hardly lazy for not seeing a reason to devote more time to it!
 

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noobartist1 said:
Note that you're talking about the ME3 movement being bashed by THIS comic (and not the Critical Miss before this one), in the last few of your posts. You see nothing but "bashing ME3 movement", even if you do/do not see the underlying joke.

I am pointing out that you can't exactly see past "ME3 movement bashing" in my post.

Case in point: The authors could have put in fan whining about Dragon-Age map-repeat, Final Fantasy "railroad maps", Duke Nukem, North Korea Missile Launch, etc... as the main topic of this strip, and it would still be able to hold itself, simply because the topic/message is NOT "ME3 movement bashing".
Quoting grey "Really? My other strips are fine but the last one was "low?" It's funny how the movement's sense of humour seems to evaporate when they're the butt of the joke."
Im pretty sure that was about this strip.

Sorry i do understand the joke, but even if it wasnt about ME3 movement i find it humorless, more like trolling either for the complexsity it takes to get the joke, because you have to read it 2 or 3 times to get what they mean, because it wasnt very well done artistically speaking, or because the theme to exploit was the ReTake Movement itself. (Or maybe because im not a native english speaker and im unable to relate to that humor)

Anyway it would be great if you can tell me what are you sideing for, just for the record.(and because we have been discussing this for several days lol)
I what i could understand in your statements is that you didnt liked the ending, your are tired of the theme of using the mainstream of the ReTake movement or that it was just att seeking. But you disagree with the movement itself and you do think we are going too far.

Did i got it right?