Mass Effect 3 will be incomplete
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No, stop!00slash00 said:
You're assuming ontop of your speculation, just because he's prothean doesn't mean they will have major significance on the game not one bit.
Your OP was clearly hyping up something you don't even know is certified as fact, stop this shit right now.
Also it's not "incomplete" at all, again stop that.
boag said:
Having read the dialogue you just showed me... no he doesn't. He doesn't point out the Crucible to Shepard. Liara and Shepard ask him about the Crucible, themselves having prior knowledge of it already. He then says 'Crucible?' in confusion, having clearly never heard of it. Shepard and Liara then reveal that they know the Crucible's purpose and have already started working on it and ask the Prothean if he knows how to complete it and the Prothean essentially says:
"It's been too long and I'm just a warrior, I have no idea how this works."
He doesn't point out the Crucible, Shepard and Co already know it exists. He also offers no plot important insight into the Crucible, just glib remarks about vengeance and lost time.
What we can confirm from this is that the existence and plans about the Crucible are done independant of the Prothean and the Prothean adds nothing to it afterwards.
Understand that going by the context of the dialogue, when they say 'your plans for the crucible' they mean as in 'your people's plans' and not 'your plans' specifically.
"It's been too long and I'm just a warrior, I have no idea how this works."
He doesn't point out the Crucible, Shepard and Co already know it exists. He also offers no plot important insight into the Crucible, just glib remarks about vengeance and lost time.
What we can confirm from this is that the existence and plans about the Crucible are done independant of the Prothean and the Prothean adds nothing to it afterwards.
Understand that going by the context of the dialogue, when they say 'your plans for the crucible' they mean as in 'your people's plans' and not 'your plans' specifically.
I'm sorry if I've offended but I'm still really not seeing him be that important.
OK, you're clearly not reading my post. I KNOW that the story has been leaked. I have never denied it. All I am saying is that Bioware claims that the important story element connected to the character are intact, but you wont have him in your squad or get the sidequests. Neither of your links prove that wrong. Someone played the beta, sure, but a beta is not the same as the finished game. You got nothing that states the story will be incomplete so you are not being reasonable. It doesn't get any more simple than that.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
And they wonder why people might want to pirate their games instead of paying an obnoxious price for the full game, rather than just $60 for an incomplete version.
That is not what I have been saying. What I have been saying is that Bioware says that the important parts of the story containing him will be present, but you wont have him in your squad. Really, I wont bother to go on with this because I am repeating the same thing over and over here, but you don't seem to bother to read what I am saying.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
A summarized treatment of a verbal dictation detailing updated From Ashes DLC (rewritten due to Nov. 2011 Plot Leak). Leak aquired from my half-brother's girlfriend's cousin who happens to work at the big office in Edmonton....
Mission Start:
Shepard recieves a transmission from Anderson via Normandy communications:
"Shepard, one of our codebreaker teams operating in secret outside of Citadel space has intercepted an encrypted Cerberus report sent through several different channels to the Illusive Man, marked high priority. It details the corrdinates of a previously excavated Prothean ruin deemed too badly damaged for further reseach...A small Cerberus splinter group acting as a private mining interest has made a request for immediate research and security support...It is unclear what this group has discovered, our team is still deciphering much of the report...However, recent intercepts on Cerberus troop movements suggest that the Illusive man has granted the request...I know you have other priorities right now Shepard, but if the Illusive Man has devoted resources to a remote planet while in the middle of a war, it must be important...I'm sending you the coordinates now, it's your call, Good Luck Shepard"
Shepard travels to the remote planet and infiltrates the Cerberus research site...After several firefights eliminating heavily armed Cerberus security forces, Sheperd uncovers a heavily damaged underground facility resembling the architechture found on Ilos. Shepard interupts a team of Cerberus scientists just as they open an ancient stasis pod. A figure emerges from the pod...emitting a paralysing biotic mind distortion. Shepard and his team, incapacitated, experience a vision similar in nature to the one seen on Eden Prime. The scientists are grusomely killed by the blast due to such close proximity. Shepard regains composure enough to see the figure in full view, revealed to be a Prothean. His contact with the Cipher allows Shepard to project a short broken sequence of visions and words toward the Prothean attempting to explain his intentions. The enraged Prothean pays no attention. With great effort, Shepard aims his pistol at the Prothean. A paragon intercept gives a coherent telepathic ultimatum ending the standoff (if no action is taken, Shepard mortally wounds the Prothean, unknown consequences).
The Prothean stands down and questions Shepard telepathically, integrating sequences of words and images together. Shepard somewhat puzzled, answers as best he can, explaining the situation and asking follow up questions about the Prothean's origin and survival. The Prothean responds while attempting to access an information interface. Dismayed the Prothean states that a large cache of his research data has been lost. Shepard queries about the research and learns that the Prothean was researching a means to reverse the effects of Indoctrination.
He and his reseach team (deemed not important enough to be sent to Ilos) were forced to retreat to a stasis facility far underground following an initial Reaper attack 50000 yrs ago. While in stasis, the Reapers were unable to detect the Prothean and his research team. However, damage to the structure killed his entire team as well as destroying most of the data and VI protocols found within the facility. As the sole survivor, the facility possessed enough enegy reserves to maintain the researcher in stasis indefinitely. With no VI protocol to wake him, the Prothean slumbered in stasis for millenia.
The Prothean requests that Shepard escort him to Eden Prime, where a copy of his work was entrusted with his former mentor. With vengeful fervour, the Prothean vows to aid Shepard however he can in his fight against the Reapers. On the approach to Eden Prime, Shepard finds Cerberus has beaten them to the colony. The original Cerberus splinter group had accessed the surviving data caches, allowing the Illusive Man's agents to determine the location of an intact copy. Cerberus troopers terrorize the population as Shepard battles to an unknown Prothean ruin. After a protracted firefight with Cerberus forces, Shepard and the Prothean locate a second Vigil VI charged with maintaining the stasis facility hidden deep underground in Eden Prime. This facility while in far better shape, has become a tomb for the entire Eden Prime research team as the energy reserves had long ago failed to sustain life. The Prothean breifly mourns the loss of his mentor, then proceeds to access the underground data caches. Shepard is forced to fend off waves of Cerberus attacks as the Prothean downloads a copy of his research.
Shepard's team narrowly escape the underground facility as a massive Cerberus counter-attack converges on their location. With the Prothean and his data safely secured aboard the Normandy, the research to reverse Indoctrination can continue.
End Mission.
The loyalty of the Prothean is ensured. As well as becoming an available shore party member, he serves as a science officer aboard the Normandy. The Prothean makes a scientific breakthrough near the end of the plotline involving Cerberus. It reveals a third unique outcome during the final showdown between Shepard and now completely indoctrinated Illusive Man.
Did you believe this for a second..no I thought not.
Mission Start:
Shepard recieves a transmission from Anderson via Normandy communications:
"Shepard, one of our codebreaker teams operating in secret outside of Citadel space has intercepted an encrypted Cerberus report sent through several different channels to the Illusive Man, marked high priority. It details the corrdinates of a previously excavated Prothean ruin deemed too badly damaged for further reseach...A small Cerberus splinter group acting as a private mining interest has made a request for immediate research and security support...It is unclear what this group has discovered, our team is still deciphering much of the report...However, recent intercepts on Cerberus troop movements suggest that the Illusive man has granted the request...I know you have other priorities right now Shepard, but if the Illusive Man has devoted resources to a remote planet while in the middle of a war, it must be important...I'm sending you the coordinates now, it's your call, Good Luck Shepard"
Shepard travels to the remote planet and infiltrates the Cerberus research site...After several firefights eliminating heavily armed Cerberus security forces, Sheperd uncovers a heavily damaged underground facility resembling the architechture found on Ilos. Shepard interupts a team of Cerberus scientists just as they open an ancient stasis pod. A figure emerges from the pod...emitting a paralysing biotic mind distortion. Shepard and his team, incapacitated, experience a vision similar in nature to the one seen on Eden Prime. The scientists are grusomely killed by the blast due to such close proximity. Shepard regains composure enough to see the figure in full view, revealed to be a Prothean. His contact with the Cipher allows Shepard to project a short broken sequence of visions and words toward the Prothean attempting to explain his intentions. The enraged Prothean pays no attention. With great effort, Shepard aims his pistol at the Prothean. A paragon intercept gives a coherent telepathic ultimatum ending the standoff (if no action is taken, Shepard mortally wounds the Prothean, unknown consequences).
The Prothean stands down and questions Shepard telepathically, integrating sequences of words and images together. Shepard somewhat puzzled, answers as best he can, explaining the situation and asking follow up questions about the Prothean's origin and survival. The Prothean responds while attempting to access an information interface. Dismayed the Prothean states that a large cache of his research data has been lost. Shepard queries about the research and learns that the Prothean was researching a means to reverse the effects of Indoctrination.
He and his reseach team (deemed not important enough to be sent to Ilos) were forced to retreat to a stasis facility far underground following an initial Reaper attack 50000 yrs ago. While in stasis, the Reapers were unable to detect the Prothean and his research team. However, damage to the structure killed his entire team as well as destroying most of the data and VI protocols found within the facility. As the sole survivor, the facility possessed enough enegy reserves to maintain the researcher in stasis indefinitely. With no VI protocol to wake him, the Prothean slumbered in stasis for millenia.
The Prothean requests that Shepard escort him to Eden Prime, where a copy of his work was entrusted with his former mentor. With vengeful fervour, the Prothean vows to aid Shepard however he can in his fight against the Reapers. On the approach to Eden Prime, Shepard finds Cerberus has beaten them to the colony. The original Cerberus splinter group had accessed the surviving data caches, allowing the Illusive Man's agents to determine the location of an intact copy. Cerberus troopers terrorize the population as Shepard battles to an unknown Prothean ruin. After a protracted firefight with Cerberus forces, Shepard and the Prothean locate a second Vigil VI charged with maintaining the stasis facility hidden deep underground in Eden Prime. This facility while in far better shape, has become a tomb for the entire Eden Prime research team as the energy reserves had long ago failed to sustain life. The Prothean breifly mourns the loss of his mentor, then proceeds to access the underground data caches. Shepard is forced to fend off waves of Cerberus attacks as the Prothean downloads a copy of his research.
Shepard's team narrowly escape the underground facility as a massive Cerberus counter-attack converges on their location. With the Prothean and his data safely secured aboard the Normandy, the research to reverse Indoctrination can continue.
End Mission.
The loyalty of the Prothean is ensured. As well as becoming an available shore party member, he serves as a science officer aboard the Normandy. The Prothean makes a scientific breakthrough near the end of the plotline involving Cerberus. It reveals a third unique outcome during the final showdown between Shepard and now completely indoctrinated Illusive Man.
Did you believe this for a second..no I thought not.
How you define hacked out? The game is really only what they decide to give us. If they hacked out every character but Shepard and made the game 40 minutes long, that would be Mass Effect 3. It would be 40 minutes long, with 20 different pieces of DLC. The only thing you can really do is look at what is there, and decide "is this enough for X dollars". If the answer is no, you wait for it to go on sale, or a GOTY edition to come out, or you just don't get it.
There was a quote from Bioware and that is far more tangible than your statement based on nothing? Based on brief knowledge about the final game? Based on leaked information? I don't want to go on discussing this because at least I am willing to admit that I don't have the facts here. You don't have them either, but I don't think you will ever admit it. Bioware claims that the story is complete. I claim nothing. I know nothing. You know nothing. Thus the most tangible source is Bioware and we'll have to wait to find out of it's true or not.Zeel said:
I can perfectly understand the feelings of everyone who is very angry about this, my first reaction was anger. But then I stopped and thought about it for a bit and there is a really important point that people seem to be forgetting. Unless I'm completely mistaken it was stated early that the collectors edition would contain an additional squadmate and a mission for them. Bioware has simply made it in the form of free DLC for those who bought the collector's edition and as a bonus made it available for the rest of us right off the bat. The other important point that has been mentioned before is that it was made during gold time, so it wasnt cutting into development time at all and couldn't be released as part of the full game anyway. SO if some of you would rather they had included it as part of the full game and had to wait another month for the game to come out. Personally I am perfectly happy to pay for the DLC. The main reason behind all of the anger against it is simply the stigma against day 1 DLC along with the importance of protheans to the ME universe.
I really don't care about this DLC bullshit. Certainly it's a dick move from EA and BioWare, but it's not a deal breaker for me, I still am going to pick up the Digital Deluxe version of the game anyway. I'm far from being a fan of BioWare, but the demo (Especially the multiplayer) was actually a lot of fun and I'm totally willing to get the game after that.
I think you all need to calm down. At the end of the day, it's just a video game. Is it really worth getting so angry over? You have a problem with it (And I'm not saying the "boycotters" don't have legitimate qualms) don't buy it. Period.
I think you all need to calm down. At the end of the day, it's just a video game. Is it really worth getting so angry over? You have a problem with it (And I'm not saying the "boycotters" don't have legitimate qualms) don't buy it. Period.
Can I be honest with you and tell you that your freshly-registered account and single post reeks of poor shilling?lord Claincy Ffnord said: