Meet the New Bat-Guys

[JUMBO PALACE]

Ehh I'm not that excited for either Selina Kyle or Bane to be honest. I was really hoping for The Riddler or The Penguin. I never liked Catwoman as a character and I have no idea how Bane is going to fit into this new gritty batman methos. We'll see I suppose.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Also, noone in Nolan's Batman movies ever referred to the Joker ot Two-Face by their comic book names so simply referring to Catwoman as Selina should be fine.

What do you mean? They called Ledger The Joker throughout the entire movie and Gordan mentioned that the cops at his precinct referred to him as "Harvey Two Face" even before the accident.

 

[TarkXT]

Bane sucks.

OBJECTION!!!

Bane does not suck. Bane has had a wonderful career in the bat-comics and has since kicked the venom habit. His appearances in the animated series were always awesome. In short Bane only sucks because he is not the Joker.

 

[vxicepickxv]

Funy how you associate Spider-Man 3's failure with Venom, because everyone seems to love Venom and the only thing they hate about Venom in the movie was not so much that he was there, but because he sucked in that movie.

Also, I think Bane's neat in theory, because he's a genius bruiser, not just a brainless beefcake. But apparently, the only thing he's done that's noteworthy is crippling Batman? Perhaps comic book writers can do more with him, then?

Well, he did nuke a building in downtown Gotham City, but that got retcon'ed.

 

[FaceFaceFace]

Bane is a genius. I think you forgot that to break Batman's back, he first figured out his secret identity just from publicly known evidence. Basically, as a master combatant and detective, he is an evil Batman. If they take that direction, making him more of a martial arts master, perhaps also an ordinary real-world steroid abuser, he will be an excellent foil for Batman. He is also a crimeboss himself, so taking over the reigns after the mass slaughter of crimebosses in DK is likely. I think it'll work. What by Nolan hasn't?

 

[Droppa Deuce]

Look, Nolan could Nolanise virtually any Batman character. ANY OF THEM!

Some will translate better than others, but him, his wife, his brother and the team he has are amazing.

Who would have guessed we'd see an amazing film with Ra's Al Ghul and the Scarecrow?? EPIC

Bane (like the Scarecrow) will use a drug as his main weapon, Nolan will be true to this. The only question is, what will happen to him when he's jacked on Venom. It might actually be quite unpleasant, like an addiction with quite grim sideeffects (apart from the strength).

I couldn't care much for Catwoman, but I do not think she will be in the film much (as a woman in a cat costume). Selina Kyle will be a catburglar, and she my even break into Wayne Manor and the Batcave.

What if she auctions off Wayne's alter ego to Bane.

Nolan is going to own us all. Just sit back and enjoy the ride

 

[jokulhaups]

I'm willing to put money that "I WILL BREAK YOU, BATMAN!" will be in either the teaser or trailer.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

FANBOY MOMENT INCOMING!

Bane does not suck. For proof; here is a picture of Bane riding a T-Rex [http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/6/16067_400x600.jpg].

Or, to put it another way , read Secret Six.

This.
Bane has never sucked. What comic book (especially Batman fans) have ever said "Bane sucks?"
Bane has always been at the very least an "interesting" addition to Batman's already amazing rogue's gallery. He is not only a self-educated GENIUS with chemical-induced metahuman strength, even without his Venom Bane is a fighting force to be reckoned with. You're talking about a guy who has shown himself to be as intelligent as Bruce Wayne (at least), and as arguably as physically disciplined a fighter, even without his Venom.

In actuality, I don't think Bane was a lame character... I believe he was a great character who was rendered lame by bad WRITING.

Thus the Secret Six comes along and we see a MUCH deeper and different side of Bane that makes you at once love the guy, respect the guy, and appreciate what kind of foe he must have truly been to Batman.

On another note, I somewhat assumed Nolan would have gone with the more gritty, realistic Victor Zsasz. Zsasz seems like a better fit for the Nolan films... an unrepentant psychotic serial killing monster whose ability to maim and kill makes him an extreme threat to even Batman.
Plus the body self-mutilation thing would have played out like gangbusters.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Who cares if he re-invents Bane into a villain that is completely different in every way other than the name? Nolan makes good villains with deep and entertaining philosophical conflicts. Why should i assume Bane will be any different.
Also, Anne Hathaway is hot. Does she need a catsuit? no....she's hot. I just said that! Were'nt you listening!?

 

[Dectilon]

I think it's safe to say Nolan prefers schemers to bruisers, and Bane is supposed to be both. The name Bane suggests... well, that he's Batman's bane. Since the last movie ended with Batman sacrificing his good-guy status, perhaps Bane won't be a criminal at first but rather a man who sees Batman as dangerous.

And, as Bane "falls" Batman sacrifices himself, "rises". It could very well end with him dying.

As for Catwoman... I'm going to assume the movie will at least in part be about how infinitely more tiring it is to be the good guy when even the police is seriously hunting you (rather than just officially previously), and since Rachel died the only person he can still truly trust is Alfred (whom Bane might actually go after at some point), so him telling Selina Kyle about his secret identity at some point may turn out to be her most important role in the movie.

 

[DayDark]

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[Crusnik]

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This.

 

[solidstatemind]

You do realise that not everyone thinks Nolan is some sort of directorial genius, right?

Begins was boring. TDK was good but overrated. Nolan can't direct a fight scene for shit and his track record with female characters gives plenty cause for concern.

No, everyone clearly does not thinks that Nolan is a directoral genius, but most folks- including professionals- do, so I think you have to say that, on the balance, it is more reasonable to expect that he knows what he's doing, rather than assume that he is going to suddenly start churning out steaming piles of dung based solely upon two casting decisions. Let's face it, if you don't like Nolan, you're probably not going to see the movie anyway.

Now, stipulated that you can call into question Nolan's treatment of women, but I certainly have seen plenty of fight scenes that suffered from much poorer directorial skill, and I think it's reasonable to say that as bad as you may think them to be, they aren't so terrible as to derail the rest of the movie.

But the overall point I was getting at, and the source of my outrage, was that MovieBob was effectively being a prissy little fanboi *****, who was complaining that Nolan was going off-cannon by choosing Bane as the villian- regardless of the fact that the first two movies demonstrated that Nolan is telling a new Batman story, only using the characters and the settings from the comic books. It really makes MovieBob look like a terrible, narrow-minded commentator, although I still respect his skills as a reviewer.

I do apologize for the amount of venom, though. Fanbois who try to tell everyone how things 'should be, according to what has already been written/filmed/etc' really are a pet peeve of mine: it's like those snots selfishly think that their 'cherished memories' shouldn't be messed with, because... I dunno, really-- maybe they think they're the center of the universe? Truth is: events will occur, and unless you are directly involved, your opinion means next to nothing.

This is also known as the "Life fucking sucks: get a helmet" axiom.

 

[TetsuoKaneda]

My only concern is casting Hathaway. She's never impressed me as an actress. Now playing Catwoman? Don't know about that . . .

This. Catwoman has always been a more capable version of the old film-noir femme fatale trope. Anne Hathaway has never struck the right vibe for me. Maybe it's that her movies haven't shown off this side of her, or maybe that she never really exuded the right balance of sexuality and menace even when she tried, or any number of factors. For all I know, maybe I'm just nuts and I haven't gotten the right information to arrive at that judgement.

 

[Kavonde]

His real name unknown, Bane was initially pitched as an evil version of Doc Savage - the famous pulp hero who conquered evil by being a master of multiple intellectual and physical disciplines. Born and raised in a brutal South American prison, he's a self-educated genius and self-taught master-combatant who was subsequently the subject of an experiment to test "Venom" - a chemical super-steroid that allows him to transform into a Hulk-like muscle-bound behemoth. You may or may not already have seen versions of him in the various Batman cartoons and the infamous Batman & Robin movie. He wears a face-concealing mask reminiscent of a Luchador, and is generally assumed to be of Latin American descent.

Now, see, if you took just that paragraph, without any of the stuff about his actual comic book history, I could envision a pretty damn cool character who'd fit in the Nolanverse just fine. Maybe you could give him some of the Joker's nihilistic philosophies, make Venom also completely dull pain, and give him a personal vendetta against Wayne Enterprises. Or do something completely different. There's potential.

I mean, like you said, there's nothing remarkable about the character other than that he broke the Bat. Which makes him kind of a weird tabula rasa with star power. There's a lot you could do with that.

 

[ImSkeletor]

After the Dark Knight I don't think I can trust Nolan. It was one of the blandest movies I have ever seen. I saw it one week ago(for the second time because a friend made me) and I have already forgotten most of it. Actually that is the thing that happens with EVERY Nolan film. I see it, then totally forget about it.(Yes, that includes Inception)

 

[TetsuoKaneda]

Anne Hathaway has never struck the right vibe for me.

Hands up everyone who expected Heath Ledger's Joker based on his prior movies.

*raises hand*

There was at least some indication that he could go there, just that he didn't go there. Also, I followed the ad campaign, so after the early photos went up, I went "Oh. Yeah, I can see that."

Now, I have faith in Christopher Nolan. I love all the movies of his I've seen (though Batman Begins didn't exactly wow me, but it was at least solid), he seems to have similar aesthetics to mine, and he's the one who finally got me to tolerate Ellen Page. I'm willing to wait and see what he does, if only because I believe in a fair shake on this.

But at first blush? With just the cast info and absolutely nothing else to go on? I may have confidence in Nolan, but Hathaway doesn't exactly make me go "yay".

 

[Littaly]

So... just because Bane hasn't done anything interesting in the comics (save breaking Batman's back), that means there's nothing else he can do in the movie. What he's done before isn't really relevant, it's what they do with him now that matters.