A country with a issue with drugs and cartels but overall a country of economic wealth and scientific prosperity.
Agreed.Kaleion said:[sub]Though we do have the best flag in the entire world, just saying.[/sub]
Yeah, i know what you mean. Tho if u take a look at it if its all in the open it makes ppl loose hope and the drive to make the country itself better.GoaThief said:Ha, my honest opinion is I prefer it out in the open rather than behind closed doors. The pretentious pricks we have for politicians here are probably even worse, what with all the bank bailouts and all. Hell, even on a local level where you need to apply for planning permission to build a fucking shed in the garden whereas Tesco can "accidentally" build 200 foot further on their building yet no punishments because the country is run in the interests of big business, not the people. Hundreds of travellers get thrown off their own land and their homes destroyed for far less - they did not have permission to turn a disused scrap site wasteland into additional caravan/trailer parking for example.Teresa Lass said:Corruption is in all countries, i really dont know why here polititians have stopped to care to hide it. Its like the story of the husband that cheats on the wife and he doesnt care to do it right infront of her and for everyone to see. :/
Well yeah there are pretty red areas here. But its not like "its spilling" to the US. In all honesty the Drug war is sadly because of the US demand of drug. Its for a reason all red areas are in the northern border. As a mercantile principle, if there is demand there always be product....and the concecuences of said product.Endersgate1321 said:My father is from Mexico a small village in the mountains they mostly grown corn for the last hundred yrs or so and I'm talking deep mexico not border town area. That place is scary I miss going there but we have no choice anymore drug lords discovered a few years back that corn grows good there but weed grows like grass there. No its turned into a nightmare with shake downs no police at all and kidnappings. Its so bad right now you cant even get good reports from news because they will kill reporters. Something very bad will happen in the next ten yrs because now its spilling over to the U.S. with people being taken on the border. I give this as a warning bet the next war will be there and I feel sorry anyone who has to suffer in those poor small villages.
Well not really, the whole -most dangerous place of earth- is exagerated A LOT. Hell in my 26 years of living here i have never EVER seen a dead body (outside funerals) and i travel here in Mex a lot around. I might have been horribly lucky, but if it was as bad as -the most dangerous place of earth- well i wouldnt be even typing here and most probably be w/o internet and probably 6 feet buried.Bealzibob said:Being Australian the biggest daily threats to my life are standing outside and being glassed by some pin-dick asshole at a club so the idea that some parts of mexico could be considered the most dangerous place on earth is terrifying. So to put it simply I consider it something to be ignored as long as I far, far away from it.
Well im single white skined mexican woman. And nothing, not even gropeing has happened to meZeckt said:I hear its a very, very, VERY VERY VERY bad idea to go there alone as a single white woman.
The Problem with that solution is that there is too much internal pressure(the cartels) and external pressure(the Usa) to allow that to happen.Gerishnakov said:Or they could just legalise drugs.Korolev said:The Mexican people are nice, and they've had a long, storied, rich history and culture. However, their government is absolutely, utterly, totally hopeless and abysmal and corrupt and has led Mexico so deep down the wrong path that nothing can stop a vicious civil war that is sure to come in the next 3 or 4 years.
In short, I like Mexicans and I like Mexican culture but Mexico as a nation is dangerous and ruled by idiotic cowardly politicians and vicious, murderous thugs. The Mexican government let the cartels do whatever they wanted for too long, naively assuming that they could control them - and then the cartels grew so powerful they rival the government. Way to go Mexican government - you've done your people proud, by screwing up the entire nation.
There are only 2 ways this is going to end: The Cartels will grow even more powerful, they will declare open war on each other and the civilian government will cease to exist in many parts of Mexico - effectively Mexican states will split.
Or the government could grow so vicious and brutal in its military response that they crush the cartels at the expense of all liberty.
I see no other way out. The Cartel leaders will never put down their guns.
Awsome!! i love cancun as wellantidonkey said:It's just like any other country. It has its good spots and its bad. The border towns aren't any place you really want to go. What with the drug wars and the shootings. Especially the Texas border. The resort/touristy areas are quite nice. I had a blast in Cancun. Even ducked over to Isla Mujeres that had some of the most gorgeous beaches and water I've ever seen. Everyone was quite friendly and the vast majority of them spoke english. Which is good cause my spanish consists of handful of words and only three phrases which are "One more beer, please", "Where are the bathrooms", and "I'm sorry".
Well the drug war is about that: military crushing cartels, atm.Korolev said:The Mexican people are nice, and they've had a long, storied, rich history and culture. However, their government is absolutely, utterly, totally hopeless and abysmal and corrupt and has led Mexico so deep down the wrong path that nothing can stop a vicious civil war that is sure to come in the next 3 or 4 years.
In short, I like Mexicans and I like Mexican culture but Mexico as a nation is dangerous and ruled by idiotic cowardly politicians and vicious, murderous thugs. The Mexican government let the cartels do whatever they wanted for too long, naively assuming that they could control them - and then the cartels grew so powerful they rival the government. Way to go Mexican government - you've done your people proud, by screwing up the entire nation.
There are only 2 ways this is going to end: The Cartels will grow even more powerful, they will declare open war on each other and the civilian government will cease to exist in many parts of Mexico - effectively Mexican states will split.
Or the government could grow so vicious and brutal in its military response that they crush the cartels at the expense of all liberty.
I see no other way out. The Cartel leaders will never put down their guns.
Yar. I did this odd package deal that included the ruins of Chichen Itza, Tulum, and finished up at Xel-Ha. If I'm remembering it all correctly through the Rum/Tequila/Dos Equis haze Xel-Ha was pretty damned cool. I know lots of people were hitting up the swimming with the dolphins thing they had. All I did was float around and enjoy my intoxication.Teresa Lass said:Awsome!! i love cancun as wellantidonkey said:It's just like any other country. It has its good spots and its bad. The border towns aren't any place you really want to go. What with the drug wars and the shootings. Especially the Texas border. The resort/touristy areas are quite nice. I had a blast in Cancun. Even ducked over to Isla Mujeres that had some of the most gorgeous beaches and water I've ever seen. Everyone was quite friendly and the vast majority of them spoke english. Which is good cause my spanish consists of handful of words and only three phrases which are "One more beer, please", "Where are the bathrooms", and "I'm sorry".
Did u visited the "cenotes" or the theme parks of Xcaret or Xel-ha?
wow really? you think america is more dangerous than mexico? there just no words.NightmareLuna said:Honestly... I would rather go to Mexico than say... America. I would feel a lot safer in Mexico.
Really? America is one of the safest places to go if you stay away from big cities.NightmareLuna said:Honestly... I would rather go to Mexico than say... America. I would feel a lot safer in Mexico.
Well dunno....all CSI,Dexter, NCIS and tons and tons of movies and tv series scream: America the land of murderers and crime.ElPatron said:Really? America is one of the safest places to go if you stay away from big cities.NightmareLuna said:Honestly... I would rather go to Mexico than say... America. I would feel a lot safer in Mexico.
In many American cities it's inhabitants won't give a fudge about you and won't defend you. In the countryside, crime is low because criminals know that they will get shot.
In Mexico, you'll see people being carjacked at gunpoint and nobody has the means to defend you.
Yeah because we can trust whatever is on TV.Teresa Lass said:Well dunno....all CSI,Dexter, NCIS and tons and tons of movies and tv series scream: America the land of murderers and crime.
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Well thats exactly what im saying. Where do u get your information?ElPatron said:Yeah because we can trust whatever is on TV.Teresa Lass said:Well dunno....all CSI,Dexter, NCIS and tons and tons of movies and tv series scream: America the land of murderers and crime.
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Trust me, Mexico is way worse.
Even London has more violent crime than NYC.
By TV I believe they mean fictional shows.Teresa Lass said:Well thats exactly what im saying. Where do u get your information?ElPatron said:Yeah because we can trust whatever is on TV.Teresa Lass said:Well dunno....all CSI,Dexter, NCIS and tons and tons of movies and tv series scream: America the land of murderers and crime.
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Trust me, Mexico is way worse.
Even London has more violent crime than NYC.
Have you been in say Mexico City and London?
I have been in London. It was pretty bad. The police don't seem any interested in stopping crime. Crimes committed against 16 year olds or younger seem to be ignored and don't figure in the BCS statistics.Teresa Lass said:Well thats exactly what im saying. Where do u get your information?
Have you been in say Mexico City and London?
I heard about mex exatly the oposite u say. As in the crime is way higher in the US. Can u link me to your source?ElPatron said:I have been in London. It was pretty bad. The police don't seem any interested in stopping crime. Crimes committed against 16 year olds or younger seem to be ignored and don't figure in the BCS statistics.Teresa Lass said:Well thats exactly what im saying. Where do u get your information?
Have you been in say Mexico City and London?
Anyway, the UK is still the European country with the highest number of violent crimes per 100,000 residents.
Mexico has nearly 5x more murders than the US, nearly 4x more gun crime, and approximately 1.5x more robberies.
Also, it is estimated that in Mexico only 1 out of 10 crimes are reported to the authorities.