BAHAHAH... That's pretty much what I was thinking almost word for word... Then I read your post and freaked out a little.Latinidiot said:
I'm surprised that all of the autobots don't sound like stereotypes... :/
Michael Bay Puts a Bounty on Racist Transformers
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I'm surprised that all of the autobots don't sound like stereotypes... :/
Hmmmm i think i might pirate the movie just to can the film.... worst case they arnt in there and ive spent no money to see a movie i dont wanna seeBob the frantic said:
OMFG what the hell is racist about them? If anyone thinks that these ROBOTS are racist has nothing more to do than to complain and whine over nothing. What cause they act like they are gangsta makes them ghetto or wannabe ghetto? Its just like the movie AVATAR when around the end of the movie the general says, "how does it feel to betray your own race?" Really all he was saying was the human race. not a race of white people, not a race of black people, not a race of any damn kind.
Where the hell is an american flag in thatAlphakirby said:and military vehicles,and soldiers.Druyn said:Thats obviously fake. There aren't nearly enough explosions for that to be a Michael Bay movie. Also, I noticed a distinct lack of slow motion boobies.Ranorak said:Oh, I think I spotted them
OT: To Michael Bay,
But how do I send in my entry?
Nobody complains about Jazz "breakdancing" from his tranformation, yet two characters who act like the "ignorant stereotype" that are made for sheer fun are deemed racist?
Good God, I hate political correctness. I wish people would understand that there are people in the world who ACTUALLY behave like this.
Good God, I hate political correctness. I wish people would understand that there are people in the world who ACTUALLY behave like this.
First of all, who the hell are all these retards putting american racial politics on to GIANT TRANSFORMING ROBOTS THAT COME FROM OUTER SPACE?
I do agree with some of your post, but not that we should allow, accept and tolerate characters like skids, mudflap and jar jar. These are horribly offensive characters to anyone with a half-functioning brain, not from any "racial" nonsense, they're just retardedly annoying characters that serve no function in moving the story forward, and often cause a revulsive break in suspension of disbelief.
To your point on everyone being a bit racist, and I only wanna touch on that briefly lest we derail the entire thread (and really I think it's a discussion that probably deserves its own thread in the r&p section), but you're spot on in that regard.
I can swear and insult people in 8 languages, and I know full well that EVERYONE has racist comments to make about everyone else. Hell, just a few weeks ago I had a waiter who thought it was fine to insult customers in his native tongue whilst serving them. Heh, after calling him a few choice terms back, I don't think he'll do that again. The shock on his face when he realised that not only did I know what he was saying, but that I could respond in kind was priceless.
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Now then, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more on topic:
At least one of the twins will be in the film. He's got 2 new toys, with a new alt mode under the TF3
otM branding. He's even got an updated bio.
See here for the deluxe:
http://www.hasbro.com/shop/details.cfm?guid=BEB030B8-5056-900B-103F-2100E7E476AD&product_id=28398&src=endeca
No, not really. I didn't see them as black american stereotypes whatsoever, just as two more annoyingly retarded and ugly Bayformers that a never-was hack came up with to milk the ritalin generation out of more of their money. Perhaps that's because I'm australian, and don't give a rats' arse about american racial interactions.Belated said:
I do agree with some of your post, but not that we should allow, accept and tolerate characters like skids, mudflap and jar jar. These are horribly offensive characters to anyone with a half-functioning brain, not from any "racial" nonsense, they're just retardedly annoying characters that serve no function in moving the story forward, and often cause a revulsive break in suspension of disbelief.
To your point on everyone being a bit racist, and I only wanna touch on that briefly lest we derail the entire thread (and really I think it's a discussion that probably deserves its own thread in the r&p section), but you're spot on in that regard.
I can swear and insult people in 8 languages, and I know full well that EVERYONE has racist comments to make about everyone else. Hell, just a few weeks ago I had a waiter who thought it was fine to insult customers in his native tongue whilst serving them. Heh, after calling him a few choice terms back, I don't think he'll do that again. The shock on his face when he realised that not only did I know what he was saying, but that I could respond in kind was priceless.
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Now then, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more on topic:
At least one of the twins will be in the film. He's got 2 new toys, with a new alt mode under the TF3
otM branding. He's even got an updated bio.See here for the deluxe:
http://www.hasbro.com/shop/details.cfm?guid=BEB030B8-5056-900B-103F-2100E7E476AD&product_id=28398&src=endeca
Sorry, can someone fill me in on why the two robots received some heat? I have really picky tastes, so naturally, the 2nd movie didn't appeal to me~
There was nothing racist about the characters. Being suggesstive of a racial subculture that actually exists does not make something racist. Nor does making humor based around it. To be honest these two at the very worst seemed like they were doing a Wayan's Brothers schtick, and given the amount of money those guys have made performing I can't see the problem.Arsen said:
If anything the problem isn't so much those characters, but the fact that the whole movie was just plain out bad, seeming to make a joke out of the whole idea. They kind of fit into a movie where one of the climactic moments was the whole bit with the robot balls (and if you've seen it, you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about).
In short, they shouldn't be picking on those characters, so much as Michael Bay for creating a movie that was so absurd that a Wayans brothers routine fit in almost seamlessly. I suppose if the movie was entirely deadpan and they were acting like that, it might be one thing, but when you have people making jokes about Devestator's balls, this fit right in. It wasn't like they were inserted into a serious movie where they were not aiming for the absurd.
Of course I would ask Mr. Bay if them not being included.. which implies there not being a scene involving them leaving or anything, if we're just removing "Revenge Of The Fallen" from his movie continuity.
That said, I have no problems with explosions, tanks, and The American flag unlike other people. To be honest one of the things I actually LIKE about Michael Bay's version is that I thought it was a bit silly in the cartoons that all the humans were sitting around passively while this stuff was going on, especially seeing as I saw no paticular reason why humanity couldn't adapt or would remain entirely ineffective... and this seems to be a theme in the third movie we're looking at in paticular. I thought it made a degree of sense to have a few kick arse military guys fighting fairly effectively right alongside the autobots.... Made me think of a certain GI Joe/Transformers crossover (well concept wise not plotwise of course).
Still, while I don't agree with MovieBob on everything, and my opinion on some of the specifics as to why Michael Bay is all wrong for this material are differant, I *DO* think that he is wrong for it. I think what we're taking away from this is that the Transformers liscence has the abillity to sell movie tickets. I hope it opens the door for a reboot down the road with a differant director.
I may be in a minority here, but having never WATCHED the actual transformers cartoons, the movies didn't bother me that much. I tend to let my escapist action movies be just a visual fun fest rather than a greater search for meaning or any kind of fan service.
This has little to do with the topic, but OT I'd like to say that my first impression of the twins weren't that they were "black." But that they were just two redneck idiots. I honestly thought that and I can see where someone MIGHT say black, but my first impression was totally different.
I pictured Cletis from the Simpsons. I kinda liked the twins too. They were dorks and that made me laugh.
Now, JAZZ was a fucking BLACK robot, and Jazz fucking owned. So other than him dying, I don't see much racism with it.
This has little to do with the topic, but OT I'd like to say that my first impression of the twins weren't that they were "black." But that they were just two redneck idiots. I honestly thought that and I can see where someone MIGHT say black, but my first impression was totally different.
I pictured Cletis from the Simpsons. I kinda liked the twins too. They were dorks and that made me laugh.
Now, JAZZ was a fucking BLACK robot, and Jazz fucking owned. So other than him dying, I don't see much racism with it.
I read the title and assumed that I'd get to murder those annoying fuckers in some form. I am disappoint.
people were offended by them!?! im shock do americans not realise they're watching FICTION! it does not exist it is the by product of a bored mind sterotypes of human natures do not translate to fictional toasters. if you were offended by this then clearly YOU'RE rascist as when someone ficional acts like this you immediatly think they're black for all we know these ficional autobots could all be white or asian or native american or more likly none what-so-ever cuz theryre fake.