Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns

Ralphfromdk

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Yeah, sorry MS, but I'm out. I don't have issues with my own internet, but I don't trust YOU to not fuck up in some way.

Playing me some SINGLEPLAYER "Skyrim 2, or what ever you want to call the next Elder Scrolls", 24 hours are up, time to check in with the servers.

But what's that? MS has:
Server maintanance.
General shenanigans with the servers.
Power Outtage.
ISP problems in the US.
Some dope dug up a cable somewhere between MS HQ and Europe where I am.
Hackers. Hackers every where. You just know they are gonna have a good old time with this.

Welp, sorry, Xbone turning off, enjoy your 400$ brik.

Now Sony just has to make good on not having any connection requierments, and I'm in.
 

BreakfastMan

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Yeah, that "addresses" at the top needs to be in quotation marks, because I for one still doubt that the Xbone will be anything but a flaming pile of anti-consumer crap. The online thing is bad as it ever was the and the used-games situation is still crazy anti-consumer, just not quite as bad as it once was. Sorry MS, but you still don't have a customer in me, and you won't until you knock off the anti-consumer BS.
 

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Funny, my internet provider is Comcast, due to a very draconian agreement they have with the landlord of the apartment (same thing with the tv service) they are the only service allowed here. Every now and then the internet will simply go off for no reason because "lol we are comcast" and their support never figures out what it is at all. It somehow just comes back the next day before anyone they dispatch ever gets here. So, if I had an Xbox One, when that happens, I'd be consoleless until the internet comes back despite the fact that I paid for it in this scenario and I should be able to do whatever the fuck I want with it. is that more or less correct? Ok, no sale from me, I'm a pc gamer, but that being said, I much rather get a ps4 for exclusive tittles and Steam for everything else.
 

panosbouk

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And so the actual price of the Xbox will not be what they will announce You'll have to add the extra 50-60$ to have xbox live. Cause otherwise the system will not play any games.

If Live becomes free then that's another thing.
 

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panosbouk said:
And so the actual price of the Xbox will not be what they will announce You'll have to add the extra 50-60$ to have xbox live. Cause otherwise the system will not play any games.

If Live becomes free then that's another thing.
They've stated you'll still have to pay for Gold.
 

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So we have access to our games until Microsoft turns off the servers some day and then the thing becomes a glorified media player and the games you bough vanish into the ether. I don't understand why anyone would buy this.
 

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And like that the Xbone drank itself silly and ended the night with a double barrel shotgun in its mouth. A shame really... I used to be a fan of the Xbox once upon a time.
 

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The rumors are true: you must connect once a day in order to play your games. That you bought. What about gamers without that capability? They don't exist. "Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," Major Nelson writes, and because of this, "developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing."
Lolwut? Can someone explain this retarded reasoning to me? His rationale doesn't even address the premise. It's like he said "Bears are big so that the ocean can be wet". Developers creating massive persistent worlds has nothing to do with every console owner having a broadband connection [that is required to be working or used every day to check in with Microsoft]. I added that last part because he must have obviously meant it, otherwise he's a dishonest piece of shit trying to minimize the onerous requirement for their console. Anyway, you know what massive persistent world only requires an internet connection when the person wants to play in that persistent world and doesn't give a damn if the person has an internet connection at any other time? Every MMO ever!
 

Something Amyss

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Shaidz said:
What ever happened to the good old days when you brought something, it was yours, forever, to use when you want, how you want. GAMES /= SERVICE o_O"
Or as gaming companies called it, the dark ages.
 

timboo_drow

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"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," What, can this fucker see into the future now? There are no Xbox One owners the thing isn't for sale yet. I guess he's merely stating what is logically true that every person boneheaded enough to buy this anti-consumer piece of crap will HAVE to have broadband connection, it's still a strange thing to say.

Honestly, why are people saying that they can live with this? You shouldn't have to to "live with" or "deal with" something you don't approve of in a LUXURY item. If the free-market system truly works what you should do is NOT give money to the company that demands YOU serve THEM and instead give your money to the company that understands that they have no business asking for your money unless they are going to provide you with the product you want. Whether that be Sony, Nintendo, Steam, GoG.com doesn't matter.

I know personally all my gaming right now happens on WiiU, 3DS, iPad and Steam. I spend a lot of money on those platforms because they give me what I want - convenient gaming, at a reasonable price, without a bunch of strings and commitments attached.
 

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you can play games or enjoy applications that use data, such as videos, photos, facial expressions, heart rate and more, but this data will not leave your Xbox One without your explicit permission.
At what point do you give your consent to this. Is it per application (like using a credit card) or is it like a service (Sony [PSN], Microsoft [Xbox Live], Valve [Steam] signing away your right to class action lawsuit).

Both require my explicit permission.
 

Ophiuchus

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I can live with having to connect once a day - my internet is kinda flaky but it can usually be relied upon to be alive at some point on any given day. I'm pretty sure I can live with the licensing thing, since I never really lend my games to anyone (because my only Xbox-owning friend in the area is horribly unreliable, and to lend anything to him is about the same as throwing it into a volcano for all the chance I'll get it back) and I rarely buy used.

As for the Kinect thing, though? I just want a straight answer: is it absolutely required? Can I disconnect it completely and never use it for anything? I don't need to say "Xbox on" to turn my Xbox on, I've got hands which are perfectly capable of operating a power button, and I have no interest in ever using Kinect in a game.
 

Something Amyss

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LetalisK said:
Lolwut? Can someone explain this retarded reasoning to me?
Every XBone user will have broadband because they are actively shafting the rest of the userbase.
 

Idlemessiah

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Wow. Originally I wasn't going into next gen yet because I have several thousand hours worth of this gen left to play. Now it's like they're trying to keep me away. Heck, at this rate I'm more likely to go buy a used PS3 to see what all that Uncharted business was all about.
 

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Calm down guys, it's not so bad. Even if your internet is down Microsoft is going to allow you to watch TV and your dvds. So you can thank them for that. /sarcasm

Seriously though that line is just salt on the bullet wound in their foot where they shot themselves.
 

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I wasn't going to get an Xbone anyway, but the mandatory connection means that I'll never buy it simply on principle. Especially with that sentiment.

Every Xbone owner has a broadband connection? Yeah, all six of them.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
LetalisK said:
Lolwut? Can someone explain this retarded reasoning to me?
Every XBone user will have broadband because they are actively shafting the rest of the userbase.
I get that, and that's a whole other issue, I was criticizing the checking in to Daddy Microsoft every day being instrumental in allowing developers to create persistent worlds. It's an asinine line of reasoning.

Edit: Actually, I take that back, they're the same issue because Microsoft isn't that stupid. They know checking in once a day has jack shit all to do with creating persistent worlds. This is just a stupid reason they're trying to shove down our throats to try to make their requirements seem more reasonable and easier to swallow. Or maybe they are that stupid.

Which is it Microsoft, stupid or liar?