Microsoft and Nvidia Quit PC Gaming Alliance - UPDATED
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Your opinion on Fable 3 aside--I'm not going to get drawn into any debate on the merits of any game, personal taste is not really useful to this discussion, especially when a game that has all around positive reviews is dismissed entirely as worthless, that kind of hyperbole is not conducive to rational discussion--it's not the only case. There's Fable 2 & 3. Alan Wake was originally to be a PC game but Microsoft bought the makers out and had them turn it into a Xbox only game instead. They've shut down their PC games division, cutting off the flight sim games they used to make for instance. They've continually paid companies like Bethesda to NOT release content for PC, such as with the Dead Money DLC for New Vegas last year.veloper said:
Compared to that, the ability to jam one of their controllers into your PC is a dubious benefit at best. It's honestly never even occurred to me. There are plenty of other fine PC controllers on the market out there, and I would argue that a rather mundane, typical games controller is easily trumped by new content to play.
And of course PC gaming isn't dying, it's a testament to the strength of the market that it perseveres despite Microsoft's overall neglect and acts of direct sabotage.
I laughed out loud because of this. I don't think PC gaming is dying (not at all), but this is written in such a silly fashion I can't help myself from cracking up. I can't believe Microsoft would come up with this.
All is well? Ha! That's like volunteering to be a physical therapist, handing your patient a cup of Jello, and then proudly exclaiming, "Well, my work here is done!" Meanwhile, the guy still needs help getting back on his feet.Andy Chalk said:
Bravo MS, if you don't take anything else away from this, remember that there is in fact an "I" in the word "alliance". Have fun saying you support the PC while you continue to really almost solely support the XBox.
do you forget that they are also publishers? ever heard of Microsoft game studios? DERPSneaklemming said:
The reason they don't do that is because people would either riot or just buy macs. Also, all those game you described are also on the 360 as well. The 360 also gets exclusives like GoW2 and 3, most of the Halo series, Crackdown, most of the Fable series and saints row is a console exclusive (no, that mound of garbage code is not a PC port). None of those have any reason to be exclusive to consoles, except to encourage the purchase of 360s. They claim they don't make PC versions because they don't sell, but that's only because they can't even bother to half ass the ports, maybe 1/1000 ass.veloper said:
"At the time we joined the PC Gaming Alliance, the primary purpose was to change the false perception that PC gaming was dying. With that perception successfully changed, we have decided to not continue our membership and instead focus that energy on our own internal efforts [...]."
To translate:
"At the time we heard PC gaming was supposedly dying, we realized that our consumer base was diminishing slightly. We heard that this thing called the PC Gaming Alliance existed, and figured that if we joined it, we could win back a good portion of those consumers willing to spend lots and lots of money on our products. Now that we've gotten back those consumers, we're leaving that silly social group and going back to draining our re-gained audiences wallets."
Okay okay, Microsoft and Nvidia aren't that soulless, I know, but come on. Isn't there a pledge or code of honor they have to follow? It's like, oh I don't know, a bunch of countries coming together in the face of adversity, defeating that source of challenge, and then, after creating a continental economic support group, they disband and go back being independent nationalistic countries in conflict with one another. Wink.
To translate:
"At the time we heard PC gaming was supposedly dying, we realized that our consumer base was diminishing slightly. We heard that this thing called the PC Gaming Alliance existed, and figured that if we joined it, we could win back a good portion of those consumers willing to spend lots and lots of money on our products. Now that we've gotten back those consumers, we're leaving that silly social group and going back to draining our re-gained audiences wallets."
Okay okay, Microsoft and Nvidia aren't that soulless, I know, but come on. Isn't there a pledge or code of honor they have to follow? It's like, oh I don't know, a bunch of countries coming together in the face of adversity, defeating that source of challenge, and then, after creating a continental economic support group, they disband and go back being independent nationalistic countries in conflict with one another. Wink.
The update response seems like bullshit to me, how would staying in the group drain poor Microsoft's resources or attention from making their games? They're just PRing. That being said I don't really care that they left, I didn't even know about PC Gaming Alliance until I read this story.
yeah a 4 year old that works in the game industry, how awesome is that?Mornelithe said:
ever heard of directx 11? yeah that thing even the xbox doesn't run yet.
I assume you can do better! give it a try.Mornelithe said:Given the industry is going to shit, it makes perfect sense. Usually when children are in charge, things go awry.Apostacious said:yeah a 4 year old that works in the game industry, how awesome is that?
[blockquote]"At the time we joined the PC Gaming Alliance, the primary purpose was to change the false perception that PC gaming was dying. With that perception successfully changed, we have decided to not continue our membership and instead focus that energy on our own internal efforts, including the return of our flagship PC franchises Age of Empires and Microsoft Flight," the rep said. "We made this decision so that we could put more time and energy into our own PC gaming efforts. And we will continue to work with our partners to drive the continued growth of Windows as a game platform."[/blockquote]
Hahahaha! More time and effort he says! By making Games for Windows Live an even bigger ***** for consumers and developers to use? This is proof that Microsoft can't stay out of its own way, because everything that they are doing to GFWL is eventually going to cause the death of PC gaming as we know it.
You want to put more time and effort into PC gaming? Alright! Start by putting Halo 3 and Reach, Gears of War 2 and Gears of War 3, Fable 2 and Fable 3, and Alan Wake on PC, and developing a much cleaner and less abominable version of GFWL that can rival Steam if you REALLY want to start putting more effort into PC gaming. And I'm not talking about shitty ports. Oh, wait, can't do that? Well, do I know a better place you can start! Throw GFWL in a bin, and HURL YOURSELVES OFF OF A FUCKING CLIFF.
Hahahaha! More time and effort he says! By making Games for Windows Live an even bigger ***** for consumers and developers to use? This is proof that Microsoft can't stay out of its own way, because everything that they are doing to GFWL is eventually going to cause the death of PC gaming as we know it.
You want to put more time and effort into PC gaming? Alright! Start by putting Halo 3 and Reach, Gears of War 2 and Gears of War 3, Fable 2 and Fable 3, and Alan Wake on PC, and developing a much cleaner and less abominable version of GFWL that can rival Steam if you REALLY want to start putting more effort into PC gaming. And I'm not talking about shitty ports. Oh, wait, can't do that? Well, do I know a better place you can start! Throw GFWL in a bin, and HURL YOURSELVES OFF OF A FUCKING CLIFF.
You don't care about the controller; I don't care about any of the xbox exclusives mentioned in this thread.Jumwa said:
The point is that if M$ really wanted to sabotage PC gaming, they wouldn't do ANYTHING for PC gaming.
No compatibility perks, no new versions of directx on the PC, no directx9 compliancy requirements for the windows GUI, but that's not the case.