Microsoft Apologizes for Big Boobs
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Funny how it's two men that sounded the sexism horn, women can take care of themselves, if they find this offensive they can say so themselves, they don't need some white knight dolt to do it for them.
Anyway, who hasn't written 80085 on a calculator and had a little immature giggle about it?
Anyway, who hasn't written 80085 on a calculator and had a little immature giggle about it?
Nope, i'm sex-positive.The Plunk said:
Well, the mainstream porn industry is definitely sexist, but then so is the rest of society to varying degrees. But in general terms yes, i'm in favor of porn.
edit: by the way, why are you changing the subject? is this question at all relevant to what we're talking about here?
The best part of this thread was when some posters started complaining about how people are attacking the white man (with no mention of race in the story), and then when other posters started threatening anyone who was offended.
The joke isn't offensive, its just indicative of the boys club nature of programming. Its also super lame. Like Buzz Killington, Computer Programmer lame.
Captcha: Get Over It
The joke isn't offensive, its just indicative of the boys club nature of programming. Its also super lame. Like Buzz Killington, Computer Programmer lame.
Captcha: Get Over It
To be fair, I'd laugh just as much at
0xB16D1CK5
Or
0xB16P3N15
So I'm saying not sexist. Maybe lowbrow and childish, but it's like with a calculator. It's just easier to enter 55318008 than it is to represent boner.
0xB16D1CK5
Or
0xB16P3N15
So I'm saying not sexist. Maybe lowbrow and childish, but it's like with a calculator. It's just easier to enter 55318008 than it is to represent boner.
As The_Critic pointed out, men can have big boobs, too. If you still assert that this is sexist, you must admit that it's based on your own assumptions, not the context. The context lacks gender references, irrespective of what you may assume the coders meant the term "big boobs" to refer to.cobra_ky said:
*Sigh* Where's my free speech!? The world is hypersensitive but I'm not! Having a hypersensitive reaction to other people being hypersensitive is in no way ironic.
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I think the issue (and the thread reaction) is overblown, but I can understand why Microsoft would apologise. Better to dissociate early than risk dealing with an idiotic issue longer than need be.
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I think the issue (and the thread reaction) is overblown, but I can understand why Microsoft would apologise. Better to dissociate early than risk dealing with an idiotic issue longer than need be.
Yeah, well, when the Escapist forums foams at the mouth with white knight fervor at anyone saying or doing anything contrary to the whole 'Women are shiny, faultless, goddesses who can do no wrong' you can't really blame the news team for stuff like this.
They know their audience. Because I know /someone/ will post here offended at this.
They know their audience. Because I know /someone/ will post here offended at this.
The context is that we live in a society in which women are sexually objectified and that objectification passes for humor. Not to mention that "boobs" is a slang term for breasts, and that men only have them in so far as they have fat deposits that resemble female mammaries.OuroborosChoked said:
I'm not particularly concerned with what the coder's actual intent was (although it seems pretty clear to me.) The problem here is that they should have understood how their little joke could be construed as offensive, and then realized what a bad idea it was to put it into production code.
Not quite sure what you hoped to accomplish by laying out exactly what your assumptions are... I didn't ask for them. Were you hoping I'd praise your ability to figure things out in a way that's probably correct (not that we all haven't developed probably accurate conclusions already)? Were you hoping to convince me that they're not actually assumptions by stating your assumptions?cobra_ky said:
Really, I'm baffled...
I'm not quite sure what your point was in the first place. I was asked to explained how the joke could be construed as sexist, and i did so.OuroborosChoked said:
I'm saying it's a very common set of assumptions for people to make, and that the public reaction to this "joke" should have been completely foreseeable and obvious to the programmer who made it.
Ah man, I though they were going to apologize for their executives. [a href="http://www.hiyoooo.com/"]Hiyo![/a]
I'm wondering if its in the source code or its part of the binary. If its source, then aren't comments stripped? If its binary then why the heck are people offended by it? Nobody wrote it trying to control what the hex representation would like. Maybe its something else and posted somewhere, I dunno. Honestly I think its more sexist to think that only men would be interested in the words big boobs. There are immature females too you know!
I'm wondering if its in the source code or its part of the binary. If its source, then aren't comments stripped? If its binary then why the heck are people offended by it? Nobody wrote it trying to control what the hex representation would like. Maybe its something else and posted somewhere, I dunno. Honestly I think its more sexist to think that only men would be interested in the words big boobs. There are immature females too you know!
That was kind of my point.TopazFusion said:
The reason I went on to say it was easier to type BOOBLESS than BONER on a calculator was to point out that you can represent BIGBOOBS in a hexadecimal system but you can't represent BIGPENIS or BIGDICKS.
Like I said 'I would laugh just as much at 0xB16D1CK5 Or 0xB16P3N15. The end of that sentence (that I didn't type is) but I can't because they can't be represented hexadecimally.
Sexistcobra_ky said:
adj.
discriminatory on the basis of sex
I don't mean to start some sort of flame war or semantic back-and-forth, but how exactly is the phrase "big boobs" in itself discriminatory? Sure, it's stupid and immature, but calling it sexist would require several large inferences and leaps of logic.
A phrase in itself can't be discriminatory if it doesn't state or infer any sort of opinion. The phrase "Feminist Whore" is sexist because it implies a hatred and malice towards feminists. The phrase "Big Boobs" implies......boobs? That they're big? What?
It's like the difference between saying the n work (which connotatively recollects several centuries of hardship and oppression for African Americans) and saying "black guy". (which means there's a guy... who's black.) Could someone say the phrase black guy to make some sort of racist remark? Sure. Does that mean the phrase in itself is bad? Nope.
Immature and stupid? Yes. Made by some sexist? Possibly. Sexist in itself? No.
Might want to proofread before submitting. "The two groups were still quite happily butting when heads when" in paragraph 6 and "occurred lat year" in the last paragraph. 