Microsoft Charts Deem Kinect Cheapest Versus Competitors

[Danzaivar]

About the only thing I gathered from this was that the PS3 version is absurdly overpriced. Since most people already have a Wii by now (who will ever own one anyway) I guess that's what they wanna point out.

You reckon Kinect will let you navigate the dashboard/dvd menus without a controller? That strikes me as the type of thing that would be genuinely useful and add a lot of cool factor to it.

 

[Mr.Kitetsu]

they forgot how to count it appears

 

[SpaceCop]

Do they also have charts showing us why we should care about motion control?

 

[Motiv_]

The problem for me isn't the price, it's the FUN in it all.

So far, the only Kinect game I've heard of that has even slightly interested me is SOCOM, mind you this was in a Gameinformer a few months back. What were the other games in the lineup? Pointless Shovelware. You row a canoe, play archery, and bowl. Whop dee fucking doo.

*If I wanted to play pointless minigames, I'd go get a Wii or even go outside and do the things myself. You already ripped off the Wii with your "Mii's", Microsoft, and now you have a motion sensitive peripheral, and you're trying to act like it'll be anything more then utter garbage.

* I didn't mean that to be a fanboyish statement, I happen to own a Wii, and 90% of the games on the shelves in retail stores are pointless minigames. I have Madworld and Wii Sports, that's it.

 

[fuhier]

Good to see microsoft can do simple math now. But it does have a point on the move i was reading game informer and its gonna cost a hell of alot more for a whole multiple move set than kinect but it also questions how expensive the games are gonna be

 

[demoman_chaos]

Sony also has a propaganda chart of their own.

Spoiler: MS paid me to put it in this spoiler so they are seen with a chart first

 

[rated]

Every retail flyer in the universe is going to read:

Move = $50
Kinect $150

That is what people are going to see.

And then they're going to go buy a wii anyhow, because that's what they've heard about from all their kids' friends' moms.

-m

This pretty much sums up the events of the future.

Also bearing in mind the fact this price gap is largely because the 360's Kinect using no controllers, which on it's own means the games will be quite a wreck, but also bearing in mind that NO conventional 360 games will be playable.

So if you want an Xbox 360 you can't play games on, there you go.

pretty much sums up this whole argument. Take a way a fanboys halo and well no more fan boy

 

[Christemo]

i dont like the 360 to begin, so Microsoft trying to scam people with a controller-less wii that looks twice as shitty, and the games twice as boring. if they want something of out Kinect, they need some actual games for it. im not saying Sony is doing much better with THE SHOOT and THE FIGHT, but its at least not some together tagging of 15 wii sports games. they need some new or old franchises that can be played by casual players, yet be enjoyable for hardcore gamers, like Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, SSBB, Zack and Wiki, etc.

i could see potential in Kinect, but so far it looks like a gigantic flop.

 

[FungiGamer]

Wow, this is seriously flawed, the Wii comes with a controller already, you don't need 2, and who the hell even BUYS a Balance Board? I'd rather get a $200 console that comes with a fairly fun game then get an Xbox AND a Kinect. Seriously, do Microsoft and Sony even think no one has gotten Wiis for motion control already? It's old news now!

 

[Vigilantis]

Eh too bad they dont add on the price of gold subscription fee which is required for that "Multiplayer" they have so distinctly labeled on the chart, and the fact that it will be needed for the next 5 or so years till the next consoles come out or the price of a future harddrive upgrade, and yes agreed you dont need Wii Fit to play the Wii.

Sorry Microsoft, I agree your deal LOOKS good and I for one was tempted when you revealed the Xbox slim at E3, however you had a completely shitty time on stage in my opinion so I'd rather spend the extra $100+ to know I will enjoy this new technology in Sony.

 

[Rayansaki]

Obviously missing the fact that a new user's console brings a DS3, so it's one less numchuck needed, and some existing users have 2 DS3, so no numchucks needed for 2P play, making it the same price as Kinect for existing players.

Also, you have to pay the 150$ regardless if you are interested in multiplayer or not, making Move significantly cheaper for single player.

 

[edgeofblade]

A... 4GB... hardrive...

I'm sorry, I can't hear Microsoft here in the generation where you wouldn't even be able to install your games (something praised by Microsoft with the newer XBoxes). Seriously, that comparison becomes bull once you look at that bundle.

But whatever. All I know is that I won't even be looking at getting Kinect until some better looking games are announced.

If you look at the fact that Microsoft streams videos without using storage space; lets you redownload all your licensed content, including video (which Sony does not); and doesn't force you to install games... it makes a lot more sense. But I would still struggle to get by on 4GB. I'd just pop in one of the 20 usb sticks and be done with it.

i have a 20 gig and it hard for me to get by unlike my terabyte ps3 which is half full

And I thought I was a packrat.

Wait...I am. When it comes to game data, I don't use my PS3 as much as my 360. My PS3 is rocking a stock 60GB, and my 360 is on a 120, and none of that is non-game media. In terms of media, I have a grand total of 3.3 terabytes networked in my house, 1TB of which is on a redundant NAS drive, another TB connected to my PC running Windows Media Center, and the last 1.3 TB shared from individual computers around the house.

I'm so geeky about my network that I have scheduled downtime (thanks to a plug timer) to make the router reset nightly and clear out weird conditions that could cause issues during the day. (I'll be honest, as an experiment, it didn't work all that well.)

The point is... with all that availability, I have no need for huge drives on my consoles, unless it feeds directly into game playing, either game saves, DLC, or full games. Do you really have all that much game related content, or is that mostly videos?

 

[DTWolfwood]

what matt said.

unless they plan on showing these posters everywhere!

an is MS serious? they are banking on ppl who haven't bought a console to shell out $300 for mediocrity right off the bat?

 

[Gamegodtre]

A... 4GB... hardrive...

I'm sorry, I can't hear Microsoft here in the generation where you wouldn't even be able to install your games (something praised by Microsoft with the newer XBoxes). Seriously, that comparison becomes bull once you look at that bundle.

But whatever. All I know is that I won't even be looking at getting Kinect until some better looking games are announced.

If you look at the fact that Microsoft streams videos without using storage space; lets you redownload all your licensed content, including video (which Sony does not); and doesn't force you to install games... it makes a lot more sense. But I would still struggle to get by on 4GB. I'd just pop in one of the 20 usb sticks and be done with it.

i have a 20 gig and it hard for me to get by unlike my terabyte ps3 which is half full

And I thought I was a packrat.

Wait...I am. When it comes to game data, I don't use my PS3 as much as my 360. My PS3 is rocking a stock 60GB, and my 360 is on a 120, and none of that is non-game media. In terms of media, I have a grand total of 3.3 terabytes networked in my house, 1TB of which is on a redundant NAS drive, another TB connected to my PC running Windows Media Center, and the last 1.3 TB shared from individual computers around the house.

I'm so geeky about my network that I have scheduled downtime (thanks to a plug timer) to make the router reset nightly and clear out weird conditions that could cause issues during the day. (I'll be honest, as an experiment, it didn't work all that well.)

The point is... with all that availability, I have no need for huge drives on my consoles, unless it feeds directly into game playing, either game saves, DLC, or full games. Do you really have all that much game related content, or is that mostly videos?

about 50 installs of the games i own, i download all arcade games on PS3(about 30 titles), and i bought about 15 PS1 games on the PS3, as well as the PSP games i bought hat are download exclusive(keep them on the PS3 just in case) i download the free tv shows as well as buy some episodes, then there are add ons, themes, and i also have a PS3 japan account so i get the demos and free games from the ones they have. the installs range from 1 - 5 gigs alone and i didn't include the ones for rentals via Gamefly then the number of installs goes to 90+.
there is a reason why i got this nickname.

 

[imburke]

its still wrong. the price it list is for the old model of the 360 at the arcade version. the new model is 300 plus kinect wich is 150, so its 450, still not cheaper than the wii. so microsoft can stll go blow itself, 150 is way to much to pay for the device, should be 100, cant believe microsoft is putting it out at that price, you think theyd learn their lesson

 

[edgeofblade]

A... 4GB... hardrive...

I'm sorry, I can't hear Microsoft here in the generation where you wouldn't even be able to install your games (something praised by Microsoft with the newer XBoxes). Seriously, that comparison becomes bull once you look at that bundle.

But whatever. All I know is that I won't even be looking at getting Kinect until some better looking games are announced.

If you look at the fact that Microsoft streams videos without using storage space; lets you redownload all your licensed content, including video (which Sony does not); and doesn't force you to install games... it makes a lot more sense. But I would still struggle to get by on 4GB. I'd just pop in one of the 20 usb sticks and be done with it.

i have a 20 gig and it hard for me to get by unlike my terabyte ps3 which is half full

And I thought I was a packrat.

Wait...I am. When it comes to game data, I don't use my PS3 as much as my 360. My PS3 is rocking a stock 60GB, and my 360 is on a 120, and none of that is non-game media. In terms of media, I have a grand total of 3.3 terabytes networked in my house, 1TB of which is on a redundant NAS drive, another TB connected to my PC running Windows Media Center, and the last 1.3 TB shared from individual computers around the house.

I'm so geeky about my network that I have scheduled downtime (thanks to a plug timer) to make the router reset nightly and clear out weird conditions that could cause issues during the day. (I'll be honest, as an experiment, it didn't work all that well.)

The point is... with all that availability, I have no need for huge drives on my consoles, unless it feeds directly into game playing, either game saves, DLC, or full games. Do you really have all that much game related content, or is that mostly videos?

about 50 installs of the games i own, i download all arcade games on PS3(about 30 titles), and i bought about 15 PS1 games on the PS3, as well as the PSP games i bought hat are download exclusive(keep them on the PS3 just in case) i download the free tv shows as well as buy some episodes, then there are add ons, themes, and i also have a PS3 japan account so i get the demos and free games from the ones they have. the installs range from 1 - 5 gigs alone and i didn't include the ones for rentals via Gamefly then the number of installs goes to 90+.
there is a reason why i got this nickname.

As that lady on Til Debt Do Us Part says: "God love a duck". I guess that you're justified if that's the way you consume content.

 

[poiuppx]

So, let's crunch the facts without the spin:

Move costs a third of what Kinect does at its cheapest.

The Wii costs less than either bundled package.

The Kinect's game line up chiefly apes Wii-esque casual games.

Kinect can't handle more than two players.

The Kinect-bundled 360 comes with the ammount of storage space as I got on the cheapo USB key I bought for the preloaded cheapo games... which cost me 5$.

These numbers don't include the cost of Live.

The Wii-Fit board is NOT required to play Wii games, unlike the other items listed there.

Final Conclusion: Obvious marketing troll is obvious.

 

[Doug]

But if they make it $50 less, that would make $250 (or $100) for new comers and "hardcorers" and would make them even more inclined to buy Kinect.

Indeed - Microsoft should really be trying to get market pentration with the Kinect, and make the cash off of the games, not off of the Kinect itself. Without a large install base, Kinect will fail.