Microsoft Confirms It Won't Reward Early Xbox One Adopters
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Early adopters are not entitled to anything nor is MS obligated to give them anything....however it would have been a good gesture to kick them a free kinect game or free month of gold as a way to say thanks for showing their support. Sometimes little things like that can go a long way make your fanbase feel valued.
Then again this is MS we are talking about who's console was founded on stupid ideas and Orwellian policies, so no surprising early adopters are getting only two things: jack and shit.
Then again this is MS we are talking about who's console was founded on stupid ideas and Orwellian policies, so no surprising early adopters are getting only two things: jack and shit.
Is this really a thing?, NOPE, Microsoft is not obligated to "reward" anyone who purchased their console early, no one has ever done that before and no one is obligated to do so. They already gave away their "Day 1" achievement to early adopters, why should they give customers more than that?.
Wellll...
...no obvious butthurt coming from MS that no one liked their shoehorned new toy...much!
Sticking with my 360 and outer social life thanks (he says on an online forum whilst crippingly alone and in tears)
...no obvious butthurt coming from MS that no one liked their shoehorned new toy...much!
Sticking with my 360 and outer social life thanks (he says on an online forum whilst crippingly alone and in tears)
Unsurprising. Of course Microsoft wouldn't, and I'm honestly surprised they have any fans to start with considering their attitude.
Is it so hard to arrange for some games to be handed out? Oh wait that would be spending money for the benefit of their customers.
Is it so hard to arrange for some games to be handed out? Oh wait that would be spending money for the benefit of their customers.
A number of people chiming in with the usual comments about "entitlement". And, yeah, they may have a point, this time.
But as I said in a different topic, look at it another way: Microsoft is effectively training people not to be early adopters. Does that really make good business sense?
It's pretty clear with things like pre-order incentives and the way big companies tout their sales figures that early sales are important. People want to buy the same console their friends are buying; people want to buy the consoles that are going to get the most attention from publishers. Publishers, in turn, want to put out games for the systems with the biggest install base; they don't want to put time and R&D into backing a horse that may peter out a few miles down the road.
I don't own a XB1 (or a PS4, for that matter, at least, not yet.) I don't have a direct stake in this. I just continue to find Microsoft's behavior a little baffling. Even as I understand that they're often being placed (or placing themselves) in "lesser of two evils" situations, I'm not at all sure they've made the right decision here, especially given how little game support the Kinect has received thus far. A showy, free Kinect-only title for early adopters would be a great way to show that they weren't forgotten, even if it was quickly assembled and short, more of a proof-of-concept than a commercial title.
I feel like I've been hearing a lot of discontent about the functionality of the Kinect, never mind its price. Going this way seems like Microsoft admitting the Kinect itself was a mistake.
But as I said in a different topic, look at it another way: Microsoft is effectively training people not to be early adopters. Does that really make good business sense?
It's pretty clear with things like pre-order incentives and the way big companies tout their sales figures that early sales are important. People want to buy the same console their friends are buying; people want to buy the consoles that are going to get the most attention from publishers. Publishers, in turn, want to put out games for the systems with the biggest install base; they don't want to put time and R&D into backing a horse that may peter out a few miles down the road.
I don't own a XB1 (or a PS4, for that matter, at least, not yet.) I don't have a direct stake in this. I just continue to find Microsoft's behavior a little baffling. Even as I understand that they're often being placed (or placing themselves) in "lesser of two evils" situations, I'm not at all sure they've made the right decision here, especially given how little game support the Kinect has received thus far. A showy, free Kinect-only title for early adopters would be a great way to show that they weren't forgotten, even if it was quickly assembled and short, more of a proof-of-concept than a commercial title.
I feel like I've been hearing a lot of discontent about the functionality of the Kinect, never mind its price. Going this way seems like Microsoft admitting the Kinect itself was a mistake.
Is this news?
Early adoption in the games industry is already over-rated. The only reason it's such a big deal when consoles come out is because we all perceive the consoles as being in generations and we can easily be aware of release dates.
If I'm buying a fancy tv, I don't know what the latest and greatest thing on the market is and unless I have a lot of disposable income I don't really care. No one is sitting around talking about which tv will win the TV war. There's no midnight release with giant lines for each new release. It just goes on the shelf and we don't buy it if it doesn't make sense.
Like, I assume a decent number of us have a HD tv, how many of us can say we had the first marketed HD tv? One made around that time? I bet its a lot less proportionally than early adopters of video game consoles.
The entire games industry has been training people not to be early adopters for decades, people still just insist on buying a console that is inferior in every important way to the one it apparently is replacing. The xbox360 is a better console than the xbone, the ps3 is a better console than the ps4.Callate said:
Early adoption in the games industry is already over-rated. The only reason it's such a big deal when consoles come out is because we all perceive the consoles as being in generations and we can easily be aware of release dates.
If I'm buying a fancy tv, I don't know what the latest and greatest thing on the market is and unless I have a lot of disposable income I don't really care. No one is sitting around talking about which tv will win the TV war. There's no midnight release with giant lines for each new release. It just goes on the shelf and we don't buy it if it doesn't make sense.
Like, I assume a decent number of us have a HD tv, how many of us can say we had the first marketed HD tv? One made around that time? I bet its a lot less proportionally than early adopters of video game consoles.
It seems more complicated than consoles just failing if they don't do good early. The ps3 was famous for having "no gaems" but now they have a very solid library of exclusive JRPGs (Demons' souls included), they have their first person shooters which seem about as relevant as halo now. The game I'm most excited for in the future is a game coming out in late 2015 for the PS3 only
People of the world: This is why you don't become an early adopter. The sales team will always lower the price over time, and the engineering team will always work out bugs or flaws and make it slightly better(more efficient, smaller, extra features, removing unused features therefore reducing costs). I'm surprised this many people bought a launch window MS console when they could see the kinect being a forced pack in and, more importantly, the last had generation had early 360s red ring left and right faster than you could say, "Damn, I think my xbox is busted." They should be thankful their xbones last the full generation. (I'd assume MS learned from the design flaws of the original 360s, but who know what new one will pop up.)
That right there shows people don't have a good memory or take advantage of the fact they live in the Information Age and research expensive products before buying them. At least, ask the guy/gal behind the counter some questions and take what he/she says with a spoonful of salt since they might have to move so many units a week/month if they don't want any awkward confrontations with the boss.
That right there shows people don't have a good memory or take advantage of the fact they live in the Information Age and research expensive products before buying them. At least, ask the guy/gal behind the counter some questions and take what he/she says with a spoonful of salt since they might have to move so many units a week/month if they don't want any awkward confrontations with the boss.
Well, there is a legitimate complaint possible here. Microsoft originally said that the Kinect is an essential part of the Xbox ecosystem and those people who bought the Xbox One with Kinect expecting that there would later on be good developer support for the Kinect based on it being packaged with every Xbox One are now getting screwed. So in a sense there was some false advertisement going on here.
Come on Microsoft you really should at least give them a little gift to say thanks for buying our steaming pile of shit. I mean these were the hardcore people who were willing to ignore all the problems with the console and buy it without question. At least give them a discount on their subscription for a year or something to show you sort of care.
Give me the name of your surgeon; I'm reaching my limit and I'm a fucking dragon.Dr. McD said:
Such is the nature of meaningless buzzwords.
Though if it's indirectly spearheading the cyber-revolution, I guess I'll tolerate it.
The people who bought the XBone early already got their reward: They had the chance to play through Dead Rising 3, Ryse and, Forza before people who chose to wait for a price drop. Honestly though, I feel like I'm getting the better deal since those games (really just DR3 since that's the one I'm looking forward to) will be cheaper once/if I finally get mine...and I won't be forced to buy a Kinect with my Bone! Win-Win!
I do not think Microsoft needs to do anything for people who bought the system at launch. There was nothing wrong with the system in a technical sense--nothing like the RROD. This stuff is bound to happen with consoles. It always does. It's also yet another reason why I don't buy consoles at launch. The price point always falls eventually, and the odds of Microsoft not making a Kinect-free Xbox One were almost zero.
Now, if Microsoft wants to score some points, then they should look into giving some sort of little gift for these people.
Now, if Microsoft wants to score some points, then they should look into giving some sort of little gift for these people.
I don't see why this is an issue. I didn't cry for freebies when Nintendo slashed the price of the 3DS shortly after I'd bought one, and since this is something that eventually happens to everything being sold, ever, you'd think people would learn. Is it because it's happening sooner than expected?
wait ...
people where actually EXPECTING something just cause they where adding a kinectless option? Really?
wow ... I'm sorry but if you think Microsoft owes you anything just cause they are now getting around to shipping an XBone with out the kinect, your sadly mistaken.
people where actually EXPECTING something just cause they where adding a kinectless option? Really?
wow ... I'm sorry but if you think Microsoft owes you anything just cause they are now getting around to shipping an XBone with out the kinect, your sadly mistaken.
1. Fatty launch PS3s are actually still worth more as they can still do more.BrotherRool said:
2. While I always believe in waiting to buy the hardware, I do feel a bit bad for the early adopters. Microsoft forced a Kinect as an integral part and that it wouldn't abandon it. I feel bad for anyone wasting a hundred dollars because MS lied.