Microsoft Doesn't Want Sony's Sloppy Seconds

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Shycte

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Now, what he said is intresting and all, I wouldn't call it childish since we can be pretty damn sure that we aren't dealing with childish people here. But the comments here are really whiney. Seriously, I honestly don't see why people seem to take offense to this.

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GonzoGamer said:
Sony releasing another overpriced and (sure to be) undersupported machine to the suckers.
Sorry to double post and come across as a fanboy (I'm not), but the PS3 wasn't over-priced, that was part of the problem. Sony made a huge loss on the PS3 not because of lack of sales but because of cost of production cost versus cost of retail price. Also, the Vita's line-up looks alright (at least not as bad as the 3DS's).

PS; Why the hell are my captchas upside down Escapist?
 

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How can this possibly be a good decision? It just means that the PS3 inevitably gets more games. It doesn't matter to me since I have both, but to all the 360's loyal fans this is just stupid. This is just reaffirming my choice to not buy the next Microsoft console, anyone with me?
 

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So that means Ratchet and Clank will never come to 360?

Fine with me Microsoft. I'll keep my PS3 nice and safe just so I can play the best 3rd person, funny, over the top, super fun, platformers ever made.
Yes that may seem like fanboyism but if you two won't play nice I'll just have to separate my consoles into opposite rooms!
Not unless both microsoft and ratchet and clanks developers want it. All this states is that microsoft reserves the right to not allow the content to be released on Xbox 360 if you dont release it on the 360 either first or at the same time as other platforms. So it pretty much means no way in hell will they ever allow something to come out on another platform but if it is an insanely popular game they just may allow it. Although I doubt they would take that from any game short of a call of duty title.
The Ratchet and Clank IP is owned by Sony so it's never gonna be on a Microsoft console anyway.
OT:Generally taking decisions on the base of emotions like pride is not the smartest thing to do in business cold logic works better, but what do I know...it's not like I have anything to do with a multimilion/billion dollar corporation.
 

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Right, because they're balls-deep in their own first-party studios, and XBLA is renowned for being indie developer-friendly in the first place.

Fucking morons.
 

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The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
GonzoGamer said:
Sony releasing another overpriced and (sure to be) undersupported machine to the suckers.
Sorry to double post and come across as a fanboy (I'm not), but the PS3 wasn't over-priced, that was part of the problem. Sony made a huge loss on the PS3 not because of lack of sales but because of cost of production cost versus cost of retail price. Also, the Vita's line-up looks alright (at least not as bad as the 3DS's).

PS; Why the hell are my captchas upside down Escapist?
You're right and that makes them even bigger morons.
The ps3 is actually a really well made piece of hardware and it's unfortunate that it's been sandbagged so badly that they may as well have made it cheaper. It would be a great console if they would just give it half decent support. As it stands, I feel like I have a really nice sports car that wont pop out of first. I tried to be optimistic about it, I really did, but now the only good thing I can think about it is "hey, at least it didn't burst into flames."
Of course the alternative was the 360 which is of course crappy hardware (so bad that for a long while, half of them were spontaneously combusting) that actually gets good support.

This is why I'm not even going to bother getting a console when the next gen rolls around, I'll sink that money into my desktop and at this point probably get more bang for my buck... and the PC really does do everything.
 

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Actually I like this policy and hope that Sony and Nintendo take it too. It is kinda bogus that some games get special content and features on some consoles and other don't and that practice has to stop. No matter what your console, you should have have the same sort of content for a third party game.
 

Treblaine

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Wow, the "PS3 has no Gaems" meme is becoming more and more ironically inappropriate every year.

Now Microsoft have made it official: PS3 exclusives will ALWAYS be PS3 exclusives!
 

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GonzoGamer said:
You're right and that makes them even bigger morons.
The ps3 is actually a really well made piece of hardware and it's unfortunate that it's been sandbagged so badly that they may as well have made it cheaper. It would be a great console if they would just give it half decent support. As it stands, I feel like I have a really nice sports car that wont pop out of first. I tried to be optimistic about it, I really did, but now the only good thing I can think about it is "hey, at least it didn't burst into flames."
Of course the alternative was the 360 which is of course crappy hardware (so bad that for a long while, half of them were spontaneously combusting) that actually gets good support.

This is why I'm not even going to bother getting a console when the next gen rolls around, I'll sink that money into my desktop and at this point probably get more bang for my buck... and the PC really does do everything.
You seem to have a pretty outdated view of the PS3. I don't know how you could say it's not getting any support, when Sony's studios are putting out a lot of great games and have been for at least two years now. PSN may not be as good as Live but overall the PS3 is a pretty solid console to have now, and it's just dropped its price even further. In what way would you like more support than it's getting?
 

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Right, because Microsoft has so many exclusives for me to choose from, oh wait.

How childish of you MS, see, this is the kind of shit that just irritates me about them.
 

Studs MacKenzie

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For a console maker that relies /heavily/ on third-party support, this is a poor policy.

I really think Microsoft needs to rethink it's stand as a game publisher/developer if they're going to continue this into the next console generation cycle.
 

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I know everyone says this is poor and childish but really I can agree to them doing this. More or less they are pressuring developers to not make cheap knock-offs and sloppy copies to earn extra money. Its unlike Sony where games such as, for instance oblivion, have crappy updates and bad controls simply because it was releaseed on said console for cheap profit.
 

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GonzoGamer said:
You're right and that makes them even bigger morons.
The ps3 is actually a really well made piece of hardware and it's unfortunate that it's been sandbagged so badly that they may as well have made it cheaper. It would be a great console if they would just give it half decent support. As it stands, I feel like I have a really nice sports car that wont pop out of first. I tried to be optimistic about it, I really did, but now the only good thing I can think about it is "hey, at least it didn't burst into flames."
Of course the alternative was the 360 which is of course crappy hardware (so bad that for a long while, half of them were spontaneously combusting) that actually gets good support.

This is why I'm not even going to bother getting a console when the next gen rolls around, I'll sink that money into my desktop and at this point probably get more bang for my buck... and the PC really does do everything.
You seem to have a pretty outdated view of the PS3. I don't know how you could say it's not getting any support, when Sony's studios are putting out a lot of great games and have been for at least two years now. PSN may not be as good as Live but overall the PS3 is a pretty solid console to have now, and it's just dropped its price even further. In what way would you like more support than it's getting?
 

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That is a little childish of them, just because a game come on another platform first doesn't mean it's any worse than any other. And this was people who only have XBoxes lose out on a lot of great games. I think Microsoft should really rethink this policy.
 

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i actually agree with this is an odd way, kinda makes sense. "Equal treatment or have your potential profit reduced significantly."

really it sounds like microsoft is just saying they dont want to be shat on in the game market.
 

Ren3004

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Yes, next time there's a PS3 exclusive I want to play, I'm sure thinking about your policy will make me feel loads better. By the way, as a consumer what I want is to play good games. I don't care if they came out on other consoles first, or if they had one more little thing. And in case Microsoft hasn't noticed, this means that the PS3 and Wii will get the upper hand when it comes to exclusives.
 

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Grey Carter said:
Microsoft's Content Submission and Release Policy states:

"Titles for Xbox 360 must ship at least simultaneously with other video game platform, and must have at least feature and content parity on-disc with the other video game platform versions in all regions where the title is available. If these conditions are not met, Microsoft reserves the right to not allow the content to be released on Xbox 360."
I know in spirit this is probably meant to make sure that Xbox owners don't get the quality shaft compared to the other consoles, but it comes off as really petty and a childish "Me first!" mentality.

As he said at the end of the article:
Grey Carter said:
They may think this is competitive, but it's not. They are killing any creative exposure of titles to make up for their own platform's shortcomings."
I can think of a number of titles that started out, or still remain, as Xbox exclusives and prompted a strong "WTF?" from me. Most of these being JRPGs, for a console who's general player base thinks anything Japanese getting near their Halo will give it the gay. Worst part? Some of those games never got ported to the PS3, likely because the 360 sales were far below expectations and didn't justify the expense of porting them, or, judging by the tone of Microsoft, they were probably bullied into exclusivity agreements.

Oh well, there's only a small handful of 360 exclusive games I've ever had interest in, never enough to prompt me to buy the machine. My launch PS3 never died on me, I can play 3 generations of games on it with almost no problems, and the number of PS2/3 exclusives that I've wanted is a much higher number. Maybe now that the price has dropped, and the odds of it suddenly bursting into flame are a little less than 100%, I'll pick one up on the cheap and try to find some of the games I've had to miss.

If only Sony didn't have network security the equivalent of a wet paper back *sigh* Well, can't have everything I guess.