I would say the damage has already been done. They may have changed things, but first impressions have already been given so it will take a lot to buy an xbone now.
Microsoft Drops Xbox One DRM Restrictions - UPDATED
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This has now been confirmed apparently on Xbox Wire (their official Xbox news thing) but it's kinda dead at the moment. XD
Quite the turnaround though, and I'm happy that it is happening.
Quite the turnaround though, and I'm happy that it is happening.
But they were praising their DRM as something good for the consumers.
That tells us 2 things:
1. It was never supposed to be good for the consumers
2. Cloud processing was always a lie if all the games can work offline
And the fact still remains that they were praising those features as something that's going to be beneficial to us. And now they're removing the things that they advertized as attractive features that were supposed to give it the edge over the PS4. Which means that now we have two pretty similar consoles. Except that one is 50% more powerful and $100 cheaper. If they get rid of the mandatory Kinect and lower the price, then we can talk about competition. Because right now Sony is still in the lead. And most people have pretty much renounced Microsoft as the devil himself.
That tells us 2 things:
1. It was never supposed to be good for the consumers
2. Cloud processing was always a lie if all the games can work offline
And the fact still remains that they were praising those features as something that's going to be beneficial to us. And now they're removing the things that they advertized as attractive features that were supposed to give it the edge over the PS4. Which means that now we have two pretty similar consoles. Except that one is 50% more powerful and $100 cheaper. If they get rid of the mandatory Kinect and lower the price, then we can talk about competition. Because right now Sony is still in the lead. And most people have pretty much renounced Microsoft as the devil himself.
this is a longshot but i pray to Gabe Newell that this is true. Hearing that Dead Rising 3 would be on Xbox One pissed me the hell off and this being true might convince me enough to get it. I'm not exactly holding my breath but i'm gonna hope they do.
If this turns out to be true then this shows that a lot of whining and shouting gets stuff done, like Jim Sterling said.
If this turns out to be true then this shows that a lot of whining and shouting gets stuff done, like Jim Sterling said.
Wow that was quick. I thought it would take them at least a couple of months to pull their heads out of their asses not a couple of days.
Even though this is only a rumor it's a pleasant rumor. Microsoft, make it so.
Even though this is only a rumor it's a pleasant rumor. Microsoft, make it so.
Thank you for at least getting the concept of what a 180 vs a 360 actually is. I remember towards the beginning of this generation, I kept seeing Sony fans saying things like "you know why its called a 360? Cause you see one and do a 360 and walk away." it made me wish I had a Facepunch key on my computer.
This is a great PR stunt because now they can claim they don't have the DRM restrictions but they can still blame the DRM use on the game needing it.
I'll leave it to the early adopters to be the test dummies to see how the DRM situation turns out.
However, I am sad to say the consumer is quick to forgive companies that abuse them frequently.
I'll leave it to the early adopters to be the test dummies to see how the DRM situation turns out.
However, I am sad to say the consumer is quick to forgive companies that abuse them frequently.
Even if this is all true I'm a bit confused. The #1 purpose behind always-on is to allow for used-license trade ins to retailers.
If the cloud no longer knows my library is current a retailer can't trust selling the game, as either I could still have the license (effectly pirating the game) or the new buyer wouldn't be able to play (license already consumed).
To avoid that they'd have to remove game licenses, which would destroy the ability to have the Xbone Steam-Like Library, their primary reason for doing all this crap in the first place.
If the cloud no longer knows my library is current a retailer can't trust selling the game, as either I could still have the license (effectly pirating the game) or the new buyer wouldn't be able to play (license already consumed).
To avoid that they'd have to remove game licenses, which would destroy the ability to have the Xbone Steam-Like Library, their primary reason for doing all this crap in the first place.
A highly doubt this is true. Not because this isn't the right move, because god knows it is, but because I don't see MS being that reasonable about it. Still, I'd like to be wrong on this.
EDIT:
Wow, I wasn't expecting that. Still, he's right we should still be cautious at this point.
EDIT:
Wow, I wasn't expecting that. Still, he's right we should still be cautious at this point.
Thank you for at least getting the concept of what a 180 vs a 360 actually is. I remember towards the beginning of this generation, I kept seeing Sony fans saying things like "you know why its called a 360? Cause you see one and do a 360 and walk away." it made me wish I had a Facepunch key on my computer.Mumorpuger said:
I still don't want to pay $100 more for a less powerful console with a worse track record for exclusives (in my opinion), but this would be nice if it were true.
My reaction if it turns out to be true:
But I'll still be angry at Microsoft for considering those options in the first place. And I will THEN consider buying one. So long as Game Ownership is still allowed.
But I'll still be angry at Microsoft for considering those options in the first place. And I will THEN consider buying one. So long as Game Ownership is still allowed.
Interesting what happens when people begin voting with money. We'll see if this turns out to be true but they've dug themselves an awfully deep hole so far. I don't know how much this will abate the crap-storm they've summoned over their heads. I mean, honestly, they've made my mind up for me against them already. They've lost this round.
Not only that, but in making the Xbone weaker than they had to, games will rely on cloud processing and that's ALWAYS ONLINE DRM. In which case what would they care about the 24-hour login if that's the future of their game?
Not only that, but in making the Xbone weaker than they had to, games will rely on cloud processing and that's ALWAYS ONLINE DRM. In which case what would they care about the 24-hour login if that's the future of their game?
Well, this would be welcome news, were it to be confirmed, and if I trusted Microsoft at all to keep its word, which I don't. In all likelihood (I don't know much about these things), the Xbox One's hardware is finalized, and this will just be a shift in the firmware. If Microsoft can pull this requirement, there's no reason that they can't add it again via firmware update once they've got a solid user base - they've already demonstrated enough sheer stupidity and disregard for their consumers that I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a move like that.
Still, if it happens, it will be a good move - but it shouldn't buy back all their lost goodwill.
Still, if it happens, it will be a good move - but it shouldn't buy back all their lost goodwill.
