Microsoft Exec on Always Online Consoles: "Deal With it"

[airrazor7]

-snippers-

You're joking right? It's as if you're complaining about the people concerned about this without actually understanding their concerns.

Yes, people living in metropolitan, suburban and downtown areas have easy and constant access to varying data speeds at any and all times. However, those three types of areas are not the entirety of the USA's (maybe even a few other countries) real estate. A large portion of the US is small town and rural country. It's only been within recent years that some small towns are getting the option to purchase constant internet connections. The connections themselves are not the best. I know an area in North Augusta in which all cable and internet access is provided by Comcast. If there is so much as a strong breeze, all connections go out for a while. If a storm comes through, you're talking a 24+ hour downtime.

There are still some rural areas that ISPs refuse to do any installations in. It was just two years ago that some of my family members actually gained the option of purchasing internet connection. Heck, a few of them have satellite because cable companies had no connections there. The internet connections they have now are crappy. I can't even consider streaming visual content when I visit them. Playing a game that needed a constant connection is impossible because the bandwidth just isn't there.

Be fortunate that where ever you live can be technologically progressive but remember that your circumstances isn't the same as everyone else's. Consider this: there are people who still use wood burning stoves to heat their homes. The entirety of this country isn't as technologically progressive as you think.

 

[Lunar Templar]

lol

i love how every thing relating to the 720 is making me less and less inclined to get it. and i wasn't going to buy it to begin with XD

 

[ThunderCavalier]

Your server service is really spotty. I guess I won't be buying any of your games anymore.

 

[Ghonzor]

To not completely ream this guy, as everyone else has, this is also a perfect example of why industry people need to watch what they say in social media.

 

[Nocturnus]

... and with this tweet, Sony is doing a bit of quiet celebrating.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Ok....I'll deal with it. I've decided not to buy the next version of the Xbox.

Dealt with.

Couldn't have said it better myself. On the upside of this, they've made it very easy for me to decide which next-gen console I will be buying.

I don't understand how they could possibly thought that this was a good idea.

Captcha: poetic justice
I think captcha is looking into the future and seeing the nextbox absolutely flop due this always online bull shit.

 

[Lightknight]

To not completely ream this guy, as everyone else has, this is also a perfect example of why industry people need to watch what they say in social media.

Yep, totally pulled an EA here.

... and with this tweet, Sony is doing a bit of quiet celebrating.

I think you mean Sony is doing a bit of anonymous emailing of the tweet to make sure game journalists see it...

 

[vxicepickxv]

The best part about the NextBox is that it's going to be the console that sits on the shelves at military bases, because they can't always get online.

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

I'm pretty sure he's being an asshole. Like he visualized how to be an asshole in his head and then he sped off to make it a reality. Not a bad job really.

If he thought he was being clever, well I guess there is something to be said about those who hired him.

I really hope there isn't always-online stuff, that would really screw the pouch. Internet doesn't work all the time and one of the things I do when the internet doesn't work is play video games.

 

[RedDeadFred]

There is absolutely no question, this man is about too be thrown under the bus by Microsoft.
He'll be fired, his family will be fired, everyone he ever knew will be fired.
Microsoft will violently and with finality purge every mention of him from the reality in which we inhabit.

This made me laugh but it's scary since I'm sure if they really wanted to, they could do it.

I won't be surprised if they fire him but I wonder if they'll actually take the public's advice and make their console offline capable after this.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Not that I think he'd ever read this... but here's my response to Mr. Adam Orth and people like him who don't see why always online is a problem...

Mr. Orth,

I have an Xbox 360 and I have it hooked up to the internet, I also have a relatively stable internet connection and though I don't play games online it's generally not a problem having my system always online. Except for one little thing...

There is a significant glitch surrounding Xbox 360 Copies of Mass Effect 3 that only occasionally shows up that no official fix has ever been released for. That being that the game will freeze while connecting to the "Alliance News Network" or something, it'll just keep trying to load it even though it will never load. The only solution I've found is to... GASP... DISCONNECT MY 360 FROM THE INTERNET!

Considering no official fix has been released Mr. Orth how am I supposed to play my game if the system is required to always be online? Your customer service people certainly haven't been any help since it's a problem with a 3rd Party product but hey, I found a first party solution that you apparently don't think I should be able to find.

Thanks for your time,

Pedro "I don't give a shit about multiplayer" Steckecilo

 

[RedDeadFred]

Wow this got out of hand, He was joking around with one of his friends on twitter. Yeah it sounds horrible out of context, but he was honestly just making stupid statements and messing with his friend.

Okay, he was jokingly insulting potential customers on the internet... I don't see why this shouldn't blow up in his face. He obviously knows that he has plenty of followers, he'd have to be a massive idiot to not think that this would lead to a shit storm. I don't care if you're joking, you don't insult your customers over the internet for everyone to see.

Besides, he has essentially confirmed what many were fearing about the nextbox. I suppose I should thank him for making my choice of next-gen console very easy.

 

[cjspyres]

That guide that I posted explains it better than I did in my post. The point I was trying to make is that people naturally assume that building a gaming PC costs a fortune, when really they are only hearing about the most expensive rigs.

It's an extremely valid point you made. The difference in cost means the difference between a machine that lasts 5+ years and a machine that just lasts a couple.

This is pretty much what I meant, I just guess its meaning got lost. I've always seen it as more practical to build the expensive tower as it last the longest. You have the ultra graphics for a pretty good time, and then you just ride it out through the next gen on the medium to high. Throw in a couple of updates if you might need, and it just seems cheaper. Like I said, it's just that initial upstart that's hard.

 

[otakon17]

Hey Adam Orth, guess what? If I can't play games I paid for without an internet connection for even SINGLE player games, then I guess you lost a long time customer. Way to go there, #dealwithit.

 

[WanderingFool]

Ok....I'll deal with it. I've decided not to buy the next version of the Xbox.

Dealt with.

(I hope this isn't too low content, I'm awfully new at this)

Im already dead set on the PS4 to begin with.

Now, just to be sure, when we talk about Always on, does this mean that if the internet doesnt work, the XBox wont either? Cuz thats just plain Pants-on-head retarded...

 

[Nowhere Man]

There's another thread floating around about this where I posted my opinion so as to not spam I'll enclose it in the following

Spoiler

I'm so sick and tired of these tech hipsters evangelizing always online like it's the greatest thing since running water. Their putrid arrogance in thinking everyone has a fast reliable inexpensive internet connection and that they'd always WANT to be main lined into some social DRM driven experience like a heroin addict takes to jamming dirty needles in his extended arm is just ridiculously short sighted and reeks of corporate technological indoctrination from higher management.

Electricity and internet is handled by providers in vastly different ways, I don't think I have to explain to you guys in what ways as you know what I'm talking about. Also this mandatory kinect eye bullshit, the possibility of not being able to play used games, a console whose focus is moving more and more away from gaming to become some watered down entertainment hub? Microsoft can take their Nextbox and the airheads making these decisions, including this Bozo, and ship themselves on a one way rocket to a distant Saturn moon for all I care. This is why I'm sitting the next console generation out.

I'm so glad I'm getting into PC gaming.

 

[TecnoMonkey]

Ok....I'll deal with it. I've decided not to buy the next version of the Xbox.

Dealt with.

(I hope this isn't too low content, I'm awfully new at this)

Im already dead set on the PS4 to begin with.

Now, just to be sure, when we talk about Always on, does this mean that if the internet doesnt work, the XBox wont either? Cuz thats just plain Pants-on-head retarded...

There was an article on Kotaku where a source said that if there is no Internet connection no games or apps can be started, if the internet connection is interrupted while a game or app is running then after 3 minutes they are suspended and a network troubleshooter appears.

Microsoft seems to be making all the wrong choices for next gen.

 

[Neeckin]

Sure am glad he's not the voice of Microsoft.

 

[karamazovnew]

Smart, very smart. Because, you know... always online DRM (which this is...) has been proven to work flawlessly until now. Geesh... can you imagine 30+ million users trying to play at the same time? Can you imagine a bust like Sim City affecting your entire console? I feel pity for the poor souls who are going to buy this crap in the first few months. That is reason alone to stay away from this.

Staying online and benefiting from it is one thing. Servers down? No problemo... single player it is. Being forced to stay online is something else. Anybody here remember the PSN fiasco a few years back? Microsoft, I hope you're ready for this. I'll have no joy in seeing you crash. But you will. And that's the only thing I'll have to deal with

 

[Kenneth Jackson]

That settles it I guess, looks like I'm jumping ship.

Here's a question, Mr PR guy;
I work for 4 months a year on a Military base; a location where I am not legally allowed to have internet connections. And you're telling me that this 300-500 dollar piece of entertainment equipment is no better than a paperweight at that point?

What colour is the sky in your world, little man? Are there elves? I feel there should be elves. You've just lost me, and probably hundreds of other sales - remember how big a deal was made when troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were shipped some 360's, and Halo?