Microsoft Hints at Pre-Owned Fee For Xbox One Games

[Phrozenflame500]

Xbone

Congrats on coming up with the first (as far as I know) penis gag related to the new console name! I supposed Microsoft is boneing us x-tremely hard with this used game thing, hopefully it bombs and they have to cut it out to remain competitive with Sony. I'm a PC gamer though, so I doubt it will affect me that much.

 

[cricket chirps]

"The Microsoft rep did say that if the disc was used with a second account, on the same console" then they pay a fee. So if I buy a game and ANYONE else in my house wants to play they have to use my account or buy the game for themselves for their account.

Microsoft is apperantly run by f@#^*!% idiots.
I will be skiping this entire console generation apperantly. Wow who would have thought the the people to convince me to become a computer gamer would be the people selling the consoles.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

Well that's actually legitimately stupid. One of the reasons I console game is because I like using games on disk so I don't have to worry about loading up hard drive (I've already used most of my 500 gigs on my laptop from steam games). Now you're saying the games have to be completely installed? No. If I was an xbox user (and thank god I'm not) that would be my turn off from the new xbox

 

[Legion]

So this explains why EA are so happy to drop online passes!

Lets be honest, we all knew it wasn't going to be out of the kindness of their hearts. I think a lot of people were expecting something like this to be the reason.

 

[Ishigami]

Hhmm... tbh I can't imagine how this will work out.
After all just imagine your XBox One is always offline. How can a offline system verify that the disc inside the tray is a pre-owned copy?
I could imagine such a system with a online DRM scheme e.g. you don't have to be online during play but during installation to verify the copy and bind it to an account (steam basically).
But not with a system that may be offline during its entire life...

And to all the people immigrating to the PC because of this: Welcome to Steam-Land! Where every fucking game is tied to your Steam account anyway! (or Origin or U-play...) ENJOY!

 

[aba1]

So this explains why EA are so happy to drop online passes!

Lets be honest, we all knew it wasn't going to be out of the kindness of their hearts. I think a lot of people were expecting something like this to be the reason.

I thought they were trying to win over some people with some extremely desperately needed PR but apparently I was wrong.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Hopefully sony is making the right choice by watching this unfold and thinking they want no part in that.

 

[Legion]

So this explains why EA are so happy to drop online passes!

Lets be honest, we all knew it wasn't going to be out of the kindness of their hearts. I think a lot of people were expecting something like this to be the reason.

I thought they were trying to win over some people with some extremely desperately needed PR but apparently I was wrong.

It is entirely possible, but it is a standard PR move to try and use an already existing thing to piggyback credibility.

Just like how the current British Chancellor of the Exchequer is trying to claim partial responsibility for the next Star Wars films being filmed over here. He isn't particularly popular so is trying to boost his own rating (as it will provide jobs, unemployment being an issue), while jumping on something that was probably going to happen anyway.

I suspect EA are doing something similar.

 

[Clovus]

Well that's actually legitimately stupid. One of the reasons I console game is because I like using games on disk so I don't have to worry about loading up hard drive (I've already used most of my 500 gigs on my laptop from steam games). Now you're saying the games have to be completely installed? No. If I was an xbox user (and thank god I'm not) that would be my turn off from the new xbox

I've never heard this before as a reason to use consoles over PCs. That's probably because hard drives are extremely cheap and there's no reason to have 500GB of games installed at once anyway since you can download them again if you need to. I'm having no trouble with all my games installed onto a 250GB SSD.

But the XBone might not have the cheap expansion ability. I would hope that MS goes Sony's route of allowing the user to install their own hard drive, but that's not how it worked on the 360. Having to pay a bunch to upgrade that wimpy 500GB would really suck.

 

[Mr. Q]

Between this, the reports of Xbone not being backwards compatible, and now this nugget popping up ( http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124217-Microsoft-Officially-Denies-Always-On-For-Xbox-One ), I think this video from the Nostalgia Critic sums up the feelings of the people (at 0:21)

Just replace the movie Milk Money with Xbone.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Turns out that pre-owned fee thing is false, at least if Xbox's official support Twitter is anything to go by.

[Tweet t=https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/status/336933801517260800]

 

[Lunar Templar]

The bullet's in the chamber. Will they shoot themselves in the foot?

I thought the barrel was aimed at their head, what with the 'not always online, but can be very easily' 'feature' and now this.

and 500 gigs isn't gonna last long against when the thing gets a good size catalog of games going

good job MS -.-

 

[bak00777]

I'm confused, will I be able to take a game over to my friend's house and play it on his console? Or will we have to pay in order to play. This whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

So does MS get all of the money from this supposed extra fee?

 

[Th37thTrump3t]

I think people are jumping the gun with this one, and understandably so. But lets just look at what they are saying here.

With the ability to download a game to your HD and play without a disk, you open a whole can of worms here. What would stop you from going to your local redbox and renting a game, installing it on your hard drive, and then effectively now owning a game you only paid a buck for or buying a game and then giving it to a bunch of your friends so that they can then download it to their hard drives and have a free game? What Microsoft is proposing is that you can still buy used games if you want, but you then are barred from using the no-disk feature of the new xbox. It's a convenience feature. I don't know about you guys but I'm perfectly okay with that. I don't mind having to use a disk to play a game. Hell, I've been doing it for years now. Not only that but the PC has been doing the very same thing for years now.

People are so quick to jump on the hate bandwagon that it worries me.

 

[Frostbite3789]

I often take multiplayer games to my friends' houses so we can play them there. Since lugging my Xbox around is dumb as shit, I just carry the disk.

Someone care to tell me why this new system is screwing me and my friends over when we're using the product as (presumably) intended?

Just sign into your account on your friend's console. This seems like a pretty simple solution that's being overlooked. And it's coming from someone who has had a PS, PS2, PS3 and is a PC gamer. I have no love for the Xbox.

 

[Slash2x]

Let me make sure I've got this

A disc is good for 1 install on 1 500GB HDD. How many AAA games could 500GB hold? Eventually you'd need to delete older ones to install newer games; does this mean they're gonna try to charge customers to play the game that they themselves already bought brand-new at full price?

Forget resale. Can I even play the same game twice?

It also says that this is account-based. So odds are, it will work like Steam, keeping track of all of the games you purchased, whether they are installed right now or not.

My question is more to "What about multi-user homes?" We've got a generation right now where every member of a household has their own account, with their own achievements, friends, and history. I don't think you'll entice too many people to buy the activation for each family member who wants to play the game you've already paid $60 for.

Like me. My son (4) plays Toy Story etc on HIS account... So you know he can not purchase new things on Live. If my other son wants to play on the same system I would have to buy the game again...... Yeah that is not gonna happen.....

 

[JackandTom]

With the current Xbox I may buy a game and play it and then my 2 brothers will play it. Does this mean that they have to pay when they want to play it? And what about borrowing and renting games? Will I have to pay when I borrow a game from a friend or rent a game from Blockbuster? Your losing me Microsoft, hopefully once a game is installed on the hard drive any account on that console can play it. That's not what it sounds like but I can hope.

 

[Vigormortis]

It's not a typo. That's what I'm calling it.

And I love it. I sincerely hope it catches on.

Certainly more so than what I've already been hearing in regards to the upcoming 'console war'. Namely: "Ha! See? The Xbox One(won)! Get it?!"


*shudder* *cringe* *vomit*

 

[Nurb]

Of course no backwards compatability and fees for pre-owned, It's easier to sell you the same game again as a download from their network.

This new console generation is the best advertizing for PC in years because the motto from both MS and Sony is "Less customer-friendly, more fees for you, and more money from us. Deal with it."