I fully agree on all your points! It's time to start fresh and let the indies take over. At least they actually love video games.Azaraxzealot said:
Microsoft Hints at Pre-Owned Fee For Xbox One Games
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But the sad fact is, while they would, and it would be awesome for a while, eventually they would turn into the EAs and Activisions.Nowhere Man said:
And we'll have to do this all over again.
So, the editor of Official Xbox Magazine says this
[Tweet t=https://twitter.com/MrJonty/statuses/336924553848684544]
How does it know that you've actually sold the disk and didn't just give the disk to a friend to pay for another (hopefully cheaper) copy? Does this mean that every time you install it to another account and pay for it, the previous copy is gone?
And now, there will be no fee to install the game? Huh?
[Tweet t=https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/statuses/336952046345400320]
What the heck is Microsoft doing? Can anyone decipher what they are trying to tell us?
edit: so there won't be a fee? You just have to install it to your hard drive every time you switch accounts? It's not as bad but it's still going to be really really annoying and time consuming.
[Tweet t=https://twitter.com/MrJonty/statuses/336924553848684544]
How does it know that you've actually sold the disk and didn't just give the disk to a friend to pay for another (hopefully cheaper) copy? Does this mean that every time you install it to another account and pay for it, the previous copy is gone?
And now, there will be no fee to install the game? Huh?
[Tweet t=https://twitter.com/XboxSupport/statuses/336952046345400320]
What the heck is Microsoft doing? Can anyone decipher what they are trying to tell us?
edit: so there won't be a fee? You just have to install it to your hard drive every time you switch accounts? It's not as bad but it's still going to be really really annoying and time consuming.
You're assuming that a crash is automatically going to fix everything. While it is true that Nintendo rose from the ashes of the last crash, it's kinda unlikely that the same kind of thunder is going to strike twice.Azaraxzealot said:
Who knows though? Maybe that kind of thing will happen. Although at this point in time, it's all just speculation. And I'm rather hesitant to place my bets on something that's only speculated about.
Verrrrry good question. I don't keep all that many games (I like the trade in deal at Gamestop too much) but the ones I do keep I like playing over and over again with a significant time lapse in between playthroughs.Zombie_Moogle said:
I've reinstalled KOTOR on at least three crappy laptops over the years. I replayed Oblivion about three months ago. If I had to pay for those 'privilages' I don't think I'd be gaming any more.
Are they really that blind?
I did not assume a crash could fix everything. It would be a slow process, but things would get better than they are. And with so much time between crashes and so much happening, I believe that it's highly likely another Nintendo could grow from the ashes.scorptatious said:
Ever heard of a company called Valve? Nintendo started as something other than a console manufacturer, developer, and publisher, Valve has hardware in the works and they're already 2/3 of the way there.
Because FUCK YOUCJ1145 said:
Also, because money
Seriously, this is so painfully anti-consumer that I still have to wait until it's completely confirmed because it's just mind-boggling evil. News are still flying around high and low so I'm waiting until the dust settles to see what is actually true but if this is true there's no way in hell I'll get an anti-consumer multimedia... THING that doesn't let me play shit until I recite the Microsoft pledge and do the corresponding MS dance in front of the Always-On-Kinect (also pay extra money)
And it's a better name than its actual nameGrey Carter said:
This basically means that it's physical downloads? Or something? I'm not gonna fly off the handle like most people here; but this is indeed confusing more than anything else.
*Looks at game pile*
20 disks; thirteen loaners from mates, seven purchased from what tiny tiny cash flow I possess.
Bollocks, well there goes that method.
Honestly though, I can't see this being a big problem. I just need to stop this annoying habit of buying games while out with a mate and then popping it in his console to have a look because I left mine at home. If it happens to be an anticipated game that we both really want to see... STIFF... It'll have to wait until I've returned home to installed the game first.
Also a little sketchy on the whole 'game must be repurchased and re-downloaded for each individual account on the machine'.
Other than that, seems like a fair system. Not that it really matters, my wallet is destined for the PS4 anyway, but nice to finally hear some of the Xbox rumors put to bed.
20 disks; thirteen loaners from mates, seven purchased from what tiny tiny cash flow I possess.
Bollocks, well there goes that method.
Honestly though, I can't see this being a big problem. I just need to stop this annoying habit of buying games while out with a mate and then popping it in his console to have a look because I left mine at home. If it happens to be an anticipated game that we both really want to see... STIFF... It'll have to wait until I've returned home to installed the game first.
Also a little sketchy on the whole 'game must be repurchased and re-downloaded for each individual account on the machine'.
Other than that, seems like a fair system. Not that it really matters, my wallet is destined for the PS4 anyway, but nice to finally hear some of the Xbox rumors put to bed.
Each new console generation since I stopped using them does a very poor job at trying to lure me back.
Don't quote me on this, but it's looking like that the 'fee' will be equivalent to the price of the actual game. In essence they will have to buy the game for download, not just have a friend borrow it.SonOfVoorhees said:
doesn't really affect me one way or another, I buy new games anyway rarely buy used ones.
and still getting both either way anyway.
and still getting both either way anyway.
Full price from all accounts. That's right, full price for a pre-owned game. Wait and see if you like, I've decided unless they retract some of these "features" and put in ones we would like to see (backwards compatibility, no pre-owned pay wall, no required online, no mandatory online gaming pass to play over the internet) then I'm sure as hell not getting one. Looks like it's PS4 or PC for me, good thing I got a friend who can build me a decent PC for $1000 or so.SonOfVoorhees said:
lol. You are joking right?Proverbial Jon said:
MS might split some of the money with the publishers (especially in the case of EA, who just happened to drop their online pass plan) but none of that is really going to trickle down to the devs.
If their whole fee system follows any sort of logic (And this is Microsoft, so there's no certainty that it will, although it isn't exactly unlikely), then I think this is how it will work:
The game itself will require data to be installed onto the HDD. after this mandatory install, the game can optionally be played on the account without the disc for a small fee (I'm talking £5 here, maybe less). For the sake of simplicity, we'll call this account a "disc-less account".
Each disc comes with one free "No-disc install" for the original owner. Should the disc be inserted into the console, it can be played without a "disc-less account," so my brother can still play on his account without the fee, via playing straight from the disc as I still own it.
If, for example, I bought the New CoD, I would install it on my XBOne and my account could play it without the disc at no charge. I could then purchase the ability to play without a disc on my brother's account, and take the game with me to a friend's house. He would then be able to play on the game via the disc without paying, and my brother can then play with us by launching the game without the disc from out XBOne back home. When I take the game back home, my friend can no longer play unless he chooses to also purchased the ability to play without a disc. So in reality, it just means that I'd be able to give the game to my friend at a decreased price, without having to lose the game myself.
Of course, knowing Microsoft, they'll probably charge as much as the game itself to stop people doing this, making the whole system moot as far as I'm concerned. Or possibly, the prices will be set by the devs of the game themselves.
The game itself will require data to be installed onto the HDD. after this mandatory install, the game can optionally be played on the account without the disc for a small fee (I'm talking £5 here, maybe less). For the sake of simplicity, we'll call this account a "disc-less account".
Each disc comes with one free "No-disc install" for the original owner. Should the disc be inserted into the console, it can be played without a "disc-less account," so my brother can still play on his account without the fee, via playing straight from the disc as I still own it.
If, for example, I bought the New CoD, I would install it on my XBOne and my account could play it without the disc at no charge. I could then purchase the ability to play without a disc on my brother's account, and take the game with me to a friend's house. He would then be able to play on the game via the disc without paying, and my brother can then play with us by launching the game without the disc from out XBOne back home. When I take the game back home, my friend can no longer play unless he chooses to also purchased the ability to play without a disc. So in reality, it just means that I'd be able to give the game to my friend at a decreased price, without having to lose the game myself.
Of course, knowing Microsoft, they'll probably charge as much as the game itself to stop people doing this, making the whole system moot as far as I'm concerned. Or possibly, the prices will be set by the devs of the game themselves.
the difference is if i wanted a PC id buy a PC for 2 grand and never look back however for people who buy consoles it for the convience of not having to bother with the installs, the one time use games, and all the other rigmaroll that comes along with the PC.Clovus said:
what Xbone has done here is essentially made a PC and are now calling it a console, yet i cant swap graphics cards, ram, or anything else to improve its proformance and unlike PCs its not BC to older PC games which is bizarre cosidering i can play xp games on 8 and some 95 games