Microsoft Making Waves With Tile-Based Interface in Windows 8
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As am I....ZeroMachine said:
I mean how would you even install games and such on that mess? As others have said it looks more like a 'smart phone' interface thain a computer interface.
No thanks.
The tiles didn't bother me terribly much, even if I didn't particularly like them. However I hate gesture based controls, and the fact that they did this with a touch screen instead of a keyboard and mouse gives it a terrible first impression.
Windows 8: Apps for Idiots.
Holy crap! They've taken their Window Phone 7, copied it and pasted it into a box with a few extras and called it "Windows 8". Complete garbage to true-blue PC users.
The reason people selected Windows over Apple computers (OS X) was that the complexity of it allowed for users to do much more with their systems and had open freedom on interface.
Oh, and FYI: I LOVE MY DESKTOP! It's engineered just to my liking and use. Perfect personalized wallpaper (which I saw nothing but blank color pallets in their video...YUK!); specific setting of each and every application that I see fit to be on the front; and I take great use of the Window's Gadgets that work just fine for me (these gadgets have more fluid feel for them, such as the weather one, than those in the video which looked like small sheets of paper on screen).
Overall, Windows is making a HUGE step backwards in this change. Yet, the public in our "Facebook Society" will just eat it up. Hooray for social decay!
Holy crap! They've taken their Window Phone 7, copied it and pasted it into a box with a few extras and called it "Windows 8". Complete garbage to true-blue PC users.
The reason people selected Windows over Apple computers (OS X) was that the complexity of it allowed for users to do much more with their systems and had open freedom on interface.
Oh, and FYI: I LOVE MY DESKTOP! It's engineered just to my liking and use. Perfect personalized wallpaper (which I saw nothing but blank color pallets in their video...YUK!); specific setting of each and every application that I see fit to be on the front; and I take great use of the Window's Gadgets that work just fine for me (these gadgets have more fluid feel for them, such as the weather one, than those in the video which looked like small sheets of paper on screen).
Overall, Windows is making a HUGE step backwards in this change. Yet, the public in our "Facebook Society" will just eat it up. Hooray for social decay!
It seems to be pretty much the Windows Phone interface, which is (at least in terms of useability and intuitiveness) far superior to the more widespread iOs-like grid style interface.
Could be awesome for touchscreen devices, but they should really include a fallback option for the then-classic Aero interface.
I hope they don't shut their system off like Apple does.
Could be awesome for touchscreen devices, but they should really include a fallback option for the then-classic Aero interface.
I hope they don't shut their system off like Apple does.
They did that, it's called Windows 7...Aeshi said:
Anyway, I think that it's a cool idea and I for one support it. You are all ignorant if you think that they are going to alienate the power users from being able to get to the start menu or running regular applications but I think this is a step into the future. Change is progress, progress is change. If you keep everything the same how will we get better?
I bet half the people who are dissing this system are the same people who saw Iron Man and Starks computer system as was all like, "Awesome! I wish my computer was like that!" These are the intermediary steps.
I will welcome Windows 8 with open arms!
The problem isn't power users not being able to get traditional start menus and whatnot. We will get it, but the problem is the trouble they put on the power users to get the features they want.auronvi said:
Hell, I use windows 7 and just getting a quicklaunch bar at the bottom of the screen was more trouble than it should have been, and if I want the old start menu, I have to download a third party mod to get it. Small things, but still prime examples of the heart of the issue.
They essentially made the first non-portable tablet! Every singe new feature he mentioned doesn't seem appealing at all. However, some of the features windows 7 had were appealing. You didn't have to install netbios to join a network, the snap feature is nice, and I love the search feature since I have 100+ icons on my desktop. Homegroup, the new network set up, the new control panel, the new "security" features(I can't run drivers that aren't digitally signed without going into bios), the icons, etc. are hated by me.
I am going to pick out a few choice vocabulary words that you used to try and make a point. Don't take this personal.PxDn Ninja said:
traditional, should, old.
All of this language is referring to the past. Go talk to some senior citizens and they will tell you all about tradition, what should have been and the old days. I would venture instead of fighting a losing battle and trying to get Microsoft to make what you, the minority, want and embrace the changes and learn the new systems.
These are all the new features that will make PCs better than they currently are.
Icons, get rid of them. I never use them. I right click my desktop and uncheck view > Show desktop icons. When I do IT work at peoples houses, the desktop is always a mess with icons everywhere and this is because organizing them takes unnecessary work and they are so small that trying to find something in even 20 different icons can be a chore.
Make touch standard. The mouse is quickly becoming obsolete as a pointing device. So much now that I spend time on my Droid phone, I want to be able to use my finger on the screen instead of reaching for the mouse. Keyboard is still the most efficient form of input based solely on the fact that it gives feedback letting you know you pressed a button.
Customization. Since they haven't shown everything and this is one of the real first looks at Windows 8, I can venture a guess and say that those square tiles won't all be the same size and will be completely customizable as oppose to say, everything being stuck either in the start menu or a task bar.
I am just asking people instead of "reacting" to just sit and think about what IS possible for change and not just stick with what you are familiar with. How can computing and UI get better if we just make everything the same year after year.
I want a Stark computer and I want one yesterday!
This looks horrible, slow to navigate, and near impossible to use if you have more than 20 programs.
Why the fuck are they naming them apps now?
Why the fuck are they naming them apps now?
Judging from the interface, I had better get a free touch screen desktop/laptop with any purchase of Windows 8. I'm perfectly content with 7 as it is. This tile layout looks too damn cluttered. I like my simple list of icons and the ability to dig through my laptop to keep everything organized.
Like some before me have said on this thread. I hope that there is the ability to disable the tile interface.
Even then...why bother upgrading? What could really be that pressing to make drool over the new OS. I already use 0 of the "astounding" features of 7. It's just a faster, less buggy, sleeker, Vista to me.
This whole touchscreen thing the world is obsessed over grinds my gears. I'm all for customization, and moving in a new direction, but I don't like the idea of following a strictly gimmick based OS. Not appealing.
Like some before me have said on this thread. I hope that there is the ability to disable the tile interface.
Even then...why bother upgrading? What could really be that pressing to make drool over the new OS. I already use 0 of the "astounding" features of 7. It's just a faster, less buggy, sleeker, Vista to me.
This whole touchscreen thing the world is obsessed over grinds my gears. I'm all for customization, and moving in a new direction, but I don't like the idea of following a strictly gimmick based OS. Not appealing.
So someone bought himself an ipad and then then next day went: "Guys I had this amazing design idea! And it did not at all come from anyone else, and me using the word app all of a sudden is also pure coincidence!"
And if you are copying someone else atleast see why they do it as they do, tiles filled with text is a horrible messy idea, pictures are distinguishable at first glance text is not, it's 2000 and bloody 11 get your design cues sorted out.
And if you are copying someone else atleast see why they do it as they do, tiles filled with text is a horrible messy idea, pictures are distinguishable at first glance text is not, it's 2000 and bloody 11 get your design cues sorted out.
"For those still using a mouse and a keyboard" Seriously Microsoft? There's only maybe a whole 5 percent or less of Desktop users who don't use a mouse or keyboard. Touchscreen PC's aren't that popular, and those who have them prefer using a mouse and keyboard anyway.
Love the ergonomic keyboard too. Looks like they expect us to pick up a 30 inch monitor and type with our thumbs on the side -_-. I like the tile interface, really I do. But it shouldn't be the entire operating system. It should be more of a Windows 7 Utility you can charge for or a different Windows 7 Version. I have enough problems with Windows Media Center, so how do you expect me to fit my whole computer into it.
Love the ergonomic keyboard too. Looks like they expect us to pick up a 30 inch monitor and type with our thumbs on the side -_-. I like the tile interface, really I do. But it shouldn't be the entire operating system. It should be more of a Windows 7 Utility you can charge for or a different Windows 7 Version. I have enough problems with Windows Media Center, so how do you expect me to fit my whole computer into it.
I really appreciate your knowledge of the subject and you can take it for granted that you have a level of technical competence far greater than my own.RAKtheUndead said:
I can attest(not personally) that well over 2000 years ago, they didn't have calculators or precise measurement tools of any sort to check on their work, but people calculated Pi to umpteen decimal places and used it to prove some lovely theorems. And they did some fantastic things with geometry
It doesn't mean that people who don't understand trigonometric functions are lazy, or intimidated beyond the operating interface. It just means that people clever at maths were doing it then and people who are slightly less clever at maths use them now.
Basicallly, my Mum wasn't using those computers you so helpfully pointed out, people clever at computers were because computers weren't very mainstream. They have become better, more mainstream and more people use them. Yet ordinary people who I know and interact with on a daily basis still find it difficult or confusing. I don't appreciate you (accidentally) calling them lazy or irrationally intimidated by some deep freudian revolution.
I do appreciate you embracing technology that reaches those people