Microsoft Patents In-Home Consumer Monitoring System

chozo_hybrid

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Could get awkward when porn gets involved somehow XD

Well, it's a service I won't be part of, I'm going to go back to the less insane part of the net now.
 

vasiD

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Whelp, the next windows can officially suck my dick as I'm sure it will have this shit imbedded in it.

I really do hope Microsoft keeps this absurd shit up for two reasons:

1) I want them to fail. Hard. And HOPEFULLY their fans will eventually wake up to how thoroughly disgusting their business practices are. Then I can watch them burn. ^_^

2) I want to see how long the fans will take it. I just keep seeing them do more and more evil shit, but their fans still love them.. and I'm like "O_O.... Really? You like that?"... It's entertaining, at least so long as I'm not on the receiving end.
 

madster11

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Hold on, companies want me to STOP pirating and yet they talk about shit like this?
Excellent idea. I'm sure that now i'll totally stop downloading those massively convenient 700mb, full 720p movies with no DRM for free.

I'm going to buy myself a fucking VPN service.

Hopefully MS start quickly patenting a bunch of other stupid invasive shit and put out a statement where any other company can use their technology - for $100bil/yr.
That's the only way MS doing this can make sense, otherwise the word will get out and Ubuntu will be like 'sup?' to everyone.
 

Arakasi

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Because this won't drive piracy to an all-time-high if implemented.
Smart move there.
 

FalloutJack

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Five hours after this announcement, the codes were already cracked. Betcha'.
 

RicoADF

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doggie015 said:
RicoADF said:
doggie015 said:
RicoADF said:
meh, if they ever impliment it I'd just sit back with popcorn and watch them be smashed by the law. Heck in Australia they'd be charged with filming minors without permission, numerous privacy laws etc etc, it'd never be allowed.
Yeah... unless the put provisions in the EULA which invalidates these laws for the purposes of "Copyright enforcement"
Actually I've already looked into it, EULAs must abide by our laws, not the other way around. When I got bf3 it had a sticker with the federal emblem and a msg saying that our local consumer etc laws override the EULA.
I didn't know that... Brilliant! I can block microsoft from using that service in my house!
Europe would also tell them to get lost, as origin has shown. I'd say their just grabbing the patent so if laws do change then their idea is covered. Lots of dumb ideas are patiented everyday and never get used.
 

Keoul

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Well then...
When win 7 finally goes obsolete I'll probably migrate to linux forever...
Bye bye Microsoft, you use to be a pretty cool guy.
 

RhombusHatesYou

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doggie015 said:
RicoADF said:
Actually I've already looked into it, EULAs must abide by our laws, not the other way around. When I got bf3 it had a sticker with the federal emblem and a msg saying that our local consumer etc laws override the EULA.
I didn't know that... Brilliant! I can block microsoft from using that service in my house!
Yes... and in return Microsoft can stop you accessing any of it's services.

That's why they have a EULA for things like handware and software and ToS for services.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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This is also a great way to stop piracy. Oh wait...

I'll just stop buying products that try to do something like this. Not a problem. I'm not a sheep.
 

Nihlus2

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"This is in no way doing anything to halter the people already pirating, let's fuck around with the honest and loyal consumers we have!"

It is a sentence of less than 25 words. Comprehend. Right. Now. Industry.
 

Matthi205

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Evil Smurf said:
simple, Just don't buy that product Microsoft are making.
Thing is, it'll probably come bundled with every single Windows system and games wil be requiring you to use it.

Seriously though, this is not just running against a single privacy law, it's running head first into all of them. Let's hope the head cracks open before law does.
Knowing how politics in the U.S. are oriented, I'm happy I don't live there.
Quaxar said:
The power to file for a patent? Yeah, it's ridiculous I say!
No, the power to file SUCH patents. Try that in any more or less sane country and you'll either get laughed at or shot.
Apple filed a patent for "a box-shaped object with a screen and a button".
MS filed a patent for using beamers along with TV sets.
Biggest problem is: most of these patents are valid internationally. Which makes companies able to fight patent lawsuits in Germany, where the rules for defending a patent are much more evolved (as are the patent filing procedures, that's why they file them in the U.S.)
See what I mean?

This system is also HUGELY effective when it comes to piracy. It encourages people to download a clean version from sites like The Pirate Bay and watch it with friends instead of paying, only being able to watch it alone and being filmed.
 

Saregon

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RicoADF said:
meh, if they ever impliment it I'd just sit back with popcorn and watch them be smashed by the law. Heck in Australia they'd be charged with filming minors without permission, numerous privacy laws etc etc, it'd never be allowed.
This is what would happen in Norway too, we have a bunch of laws making this all kinds of illegal (until our government decides to be assholes like with the Data Retention Directive). So yeah, they wouldn't be allowed to implement this here at present at least. And thank you Microsoft, I wasn't ever planning to get any product like the Kinect, good to know you keep giving me more reasons not to.

Also, to whoever at Microsoft came up with this and thought it was a good idea:

 

CrazyJew

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ITT: The forum rule prohibiting approval of piracy gets revoked. Escapist community not surprised.

More at 18:00
 

Quaxar

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Matthi205 said:
Quaxar said:
The power to file for a patent? Yeah, it's ridiculous I say!
No, the power to file SUCH patents. Try that in any more or less sane country and you'll either get laughed at or shot.
Apple filed a patent for "a box-shaped object with a screen and a button".
MS filed a patent for using beamers along with TV sets.
Biggest problem is: most of these patents are valid internationally. Which makes companies able to fight patent lawsuits in Germany, where the rules for defending a patent are much more evolved (as are the patent filing procedures, that's why they file them in the U.S.)
See what I mean?

This system is also HUGELY effective when it comes to piracy. It encourages people to download a clean version from sites like The Pirate Bay and watch it with friends instead of paying, only being able to watch it alone and being filmed.
I don't see a problem with the patent, it's a valid concept. As is the "iconic" iphone design, of course you'd want to protect your designs and logos.

What is ridiculous is the patenting of abstract concepts, as in "sending of news via email", that are then used for patent trolling. But German patent filing is just as flawed, at the start of the year a Bavarian company held a patent for an Austrian common-use phrase and started admonishing various Austrian printers for selling clothing with the words printed on.
 

Slash2x

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And now I am going to be getting one of these http://tinyurl.com/kinectsafe
Your move Micro$oft.
 

Akytalusia

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..... what the flying fuck is this bullshit. o.o;; they're talking about actual cameras? in the home? to monitor how many people are viewing their media? have they lost their damn minds?