Microsoft Pledges to Save PC Gaming, Again

crobulator

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"yay" i guess hopefully we will get alan wake now come on everyone knows that game would have sold better on pc
 

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Furburt said:
The massive trainwreck that was GFWL has convinced me to take this with an entire ocean of salt, but you never know, there's hope.

Although I'm betting that this "Save PC Gaming" really means "Put all games on Windows 7 and add DRM"
I wouldn't blame GFWL on Microsoft, some responsibility lies on the Devs and publishers to implement it properly, and have it work. GFWL worked great with Fallout 3, Dawn of War and Company of heroes. (i think it was COH, i dont remember) I think it's a great idea to be able to have your XBL friends list on PC, and earn achievements towards it.
 

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jamesworkshop said:
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I don't exactly see the problem with GfWL. Is it that you have to wait 5 seconds for it to connect? Is it that...idk any thing else that is bad about.
I would like it if somebody enlightened me on the problem with GfWL.
Major problems

The software isn't particularly stable even by microsofts standards

The game line up doesn't have even a month worth of content available even after 3 years it has like 6 games

At inception required a full price Xbox Live Gold membership to play Halo 2 and shadowrun online
this.

It's ugly, wobbly, slow, barely useful and limiting. Far from the vista features we were promised Microsoft rolled out a nasty version of it's console marketplace http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/781/781719p1.html
 

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buy teh haloz said:
As if Epic, let alone Bungie would care enough to port their games to the PC unless they had some real incentive to. And even then, they'd probably be all half-assed ports with Games for Shitty Windows Live Support.
Bungie never ported the original Halo to PC and it wound up looking better, playing better, and having better multi-player than the Xbox version. Hell, the Halo PC multi-player was better than Halo 2 or 3 multi ever were on the Xbox. No aim assist, only half your health regened and you got race mode, rocket hogs, Death Island(Silent Cartographer) and a whole bunch of other cool crap as a bonus. Gearbox did that port, and I would welcome another GB Halo port if they made one(Reach anyone).
 

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I would rather they just stay out of it. It is going perfectly fine for my tastes on it's own thank you very much.
 

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Color me unimpressed. I am still annoyed by 'Alan Wake' and other actions I consider lame by Microsoft.
 

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GFW was quite good, and forced the game devs to sort out 64-bit versions of the games. The transition was very smooth, compared to how badly it could have gone. Gamepad controller drivers got the same treatment, too.

But GFWL...No.
 

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Pc gaming was dying? When was this?
Though we really do need to stop acting like entitled twats and pirating everything.
 

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Furburt said:
The massive trainwreck that was GFWL has convinced me to take this with an entire ocean of salt, but you never know, there's hope.

Although I'm betting that this "Save PC Gaming" really means "Put all games on Windows 7 and add DRM"
My greatest fear D:!

I have been refusing to be any games that use GFWL since Red Faction Guerrilla failed so hard I felt it through the floor, I would have been able to play the game if windows live didnt take so much damn processing power.
 

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GFWL should drop the game DRM and do DRM thats DLC/microtransactin specific use more stable disc based DRM and of course not allow the game to play without a good key if its log into GFWL.
 

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johnman said:
Pc gaming was dying? When was this?
Though we really do need to stop acting like entitled twats and pirating everything.
1996 was the first time I remember hearing this.

The press thought web browsers would replace operating systems (chrome might actually have a go at that soon) and home Pc's were a declining market.

And the gaming press worried about the trend of large deveopers being eaten by large publishers and there was a feeling that 2D dependant genres would get phased out. Sadly this actually happened :(
 

Antari

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Microsoft is going to save PC gaming? ... Its about time you put some money back into the community that has been feeding you for so long.
 

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ucciolord1 said:
Abedeus said:
ucciolord1 said:
If GFWL and Fable III are in the same boat, then I don't want either one of them.
"If"? Microsoft + games = Games for Windows Shit.. I mean, Live.

The only game with GFWL I bought was Batman last summer. Didn't like it. The DRM, not the game. Game was awesome.
I had to dump months worth of save files 'cause of GFWL on that game, and now it doesn't run properly.
They had to ruin one of the best games of last year, didn't they?
GFWL almost makes EA's DRM look good.
Yeah, but it still beats the EPH! out of Ubisoft's DRM.
 

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Furburt said:
banksy122 said:
I don't exactly see the problem with GfWL. Is it that you have to wait 5 seconds for it to connect? Is it that...idk any thing else that is bad about.
I would like it if somebody enlightened me on the problem with GfWL.
The fact it requires you to log in to save, the unavailability of it in several countries, the notoriously unstable servers, the lack of any benefits to the DRM (a la Steam), and the instability it causes on several videogames that have it.
QFT

I have two RTS games; one uses Steamworks (is that what it is?) and the other uses GFWL. The one on Steamworks connects within seconds and it makes for a lot faster journeys back into the games I want to play. The game that uses GFWL often disconnects me (usually every first game I play I get disconnected from) it takes 30 seconds to log me in and, yes, I can't save if I'm not logged in.

That's pretty much it for me.
 

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Microsoft pledges to save PC gaming

Microsoft shuts down GfWL.
Everyone asks Microsoft to please stop "saving" PC gaming.

Perhaps they could have started with E3? Even Sony had a better showing of PC games than Microsoft!
 

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Awwww, how nice of them. They've abandoned PC gaming for the last decade or so in favor for Xbox, and NOW they are the knight in shining armor? Fuck them.

They shove GWFL where the sun don't shine, along with all their Fable III bullshit. Yeah, maybe PC gaming needs saving, but if anything, it needs saving from the likes of Microsoft in the first place.

C'mon, Valve, say something!
 

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PC gaming was never in trouble. I play all my games on PC and love it. I don't need a 360 or PS3. Sure I miss out on some games, or I have to wait a little bit, but they are usually cheaper for PC and can be modded. Besides, if I were to buy one of those consoles I would only buy one, and would still be missing out on some games. Love live PC gaming!