Microsoft Pledges to Save PC Gaming, Again
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Get rid of GfWL and just start packaging Steam with Windows 7 and release all your games through Steam. It's the better product so just accept it and embrace it.
But as stupid as Microsoft are (and they have been REALLY dumb since Balmer has been running things) they aren't going to do the EXACT same thing again, no they will probably make an attempt at superficially copying someone more successful.buy teh haloz said:
Yes, the ideal solution is they just release their games as plain old PC titles, install-wizard, no DRM, no integration, no proprietary peripherals. But how do they CAPITALISE on doing that?
Charging for online with Windows Live was an utterly hamfisted attempt, as they didn't realise that EVERY SINGLE PC USER was just a few mouse clicks away from another service that did not charge? They couldn't do they same as they did for Xbox, but it took them so long to realise and never acknowledged their flaws (openly at least).
I think they will try to copy Steam, keep using Games for Window, but now with a client that does it's best to copy and directly compete with Valve's Steam. And copying success and competition is good in my books, win-wn for the consumer [WISHFUL THINKING ALERT!]
or they could just release their games on Steam. But a "big shot" like Microsoft going to a "small fry" like Valve to distribute their games... even if it is the smart thing to do and it would not harm them in business, I know the hierarchy, ideology and egos within a company... they just won't do it or resist and limit it as much as possible. But then again, Gabe Newell just appeared at Sony's E3 presentation to big up the PS3... so anything is possible.
PS: Halo 3, Crackdown and Gears Trilogy on PC - with mouse aim - *SPLOOGE*
Following Microsoft's buisness plan, GFWL will be scrapped and all the games issued under it's banner will be remade with this new system. "But what about my GFWL games I have?" I hear you cry, you will have to re-purchase them obviously.
Err, Windows (like Mac OS) is a computer operating system, it would be breach of contract for Microsoft to start arbitrarily removing programs from their operating systems without any concern over security or stability.Silver Patriot said:
Valve wouldn't be the only one to sue, EVERY SINGLE WINDOWS USER could sue in a gargantuan class action lawsuit. Heck, the US federal government could step in and charge Microsoft with anti-competitive practices, which faces fines in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
That is why PC's rule, Microsoft only provides ONE program, to do the simple task of managing my hardware (the definition of an operating system). It is not a walled garden, or a service, or "their environment", it's just an interface they provide and what you do on it is YOUR responsibility. Microsoft have NO RIGHT to remove any program from your system, technically they can't stop you installing any programs either.
Your computer is YOUR SYSTEM, that is how they are different from Consoles and iPhones... you are in their system, effectively you are just renting the hardware, forced to drink their kool aid.
See, even on THEIR OWN OPERATING SYSTEM, Microsoft has little advantage or leverage over Valve and Steam. Even less now Steam is getting settled on Mac, they have spread their investments.
You know, Halo 1 or 2 needed vista to be played. And that was an old, ported game.ZippyDSMlee said:
Well, if your not the only one who's playing the game (on your computer), then you have to change user every time. I don't remember much about it (GfWL), but the account transfer was also bad.banksy122 said:
Why is it that every time I see the acronym GWFL, my mind fills in the letters : God aWFuL? I've never even used the platform.
DRM and greedy publishers will doom PC gaming no matter what Microsoft does.
Steam is just about the only bone we get now anyway.
No, the real boost in PC gaming comes next month...I should not need to say what.
Those that do not know, may remain intrigued/indifferent.
Steam is just about the only bone we get now anyway.
No, the real boost in PC gaming comes next month...I should not need to say what.
Those that do not know, may remain intrigued/indifferent.
It was Halo 2 and they were trying to hard to get people to support vista and DX10.SlyderEST said:
Games are probably too pricey, given how much a** is being served in them now. Ever since I fell for MW2 and BC2, I... well, hadn't felt ever so f*cked around with.
If I had waited for a crack, I'd know for how much I sold my leg. Lesson learned. Wait for the pirates. Too much of a risk, otherwise.
If I had waited for a crack, I'd know for how much I sold my leg. Lesson learned. Wait for the pirates. Too much of a risk, otherwise.
Well, the implementation of GFWL has varied but with games like Street Fighter IV, there has been nothing broken in it. It's just that it's basically inferior in every way to its competition on the PC.Fanboy said:
Dawn of War 2 and Bioshock on the other hand have had asinine implementations of it. No saving without logging in? What?
Essentially the biggest mistake it does is that it converts a system that works fine on a completely different interface without consideration on how it might work on another interface. Oh, and then of course comes the fact that devs are obviously neglecting the thing and would rather either build their own systems, use something like Steam or just not sell their stuff on the GFWL marketplace altogether.
It's because you're getting the acronym wrong. It's GFWL.DeadlyYellow said:
The problem MS is having... is that making the 360 compelling for gaming and making the PC compelling is a zero-sum game for their part. On one hand you have the fact that console games are just that much bigger for the moment so they're trying to chase that market. On the other is the realization that now that they've basically made a machine that practically plays everything people used to run Windows for, the need for Windows is dropping.