I never buy anything on release, so I don't care about this "issue" one way or the other personally, but if you're looking at the non-gamers, surely they'd be less likely to want it to be vertical? After all, if the marketing push there is that it can replace your DVR/DVDplayer/TV box and those all sit horizontally, why wouldn't they assume this to work the same way? After all, the shelves on most media units are built for boxes that sit horizontally.Caiphus said:Anywho, I'd be more concerned about the large portion (I would assume at least 50%) of Xbox users who don't read gaming news. Especially if Microsoft is marketing this stuff to non-gamers. How are they gonna know? And who the hell reads safety manuals for consumer electronics these days anyway?
Then I guess what I perceived as overreaction was just a bunch of people seeing these news as an excuse to fume their general and increasingly ridiculous "Xbone" hatred.chadachada123 said:I just see it as a PSA, a heads-up for previous owners that would have rightfully assumed that it could lay vertical otherwise.TomWiley said:What's the news value here?
Did this become one of the most viewed articles of the on Escapist because people are genuinely upset they won't be able to put their Xbox One on the side?
"Hey, by the way, even though tons of other systems, including our previous one, can be set vertical, don't do it for this one."
Sucks for people that don't have space, but it's absolutely good to let people know ahead of time to help inform them.
Evil Smurf said:Interesting theory but practically consoles are better off horizontal when children around, and frankly that covers a large portion of installs, unless you put lead weights in the base, I'm pretty sure a decent number of support calls come from consoles that have been knocked over. vertical was a style over substance design choice, not comparable to automobiles...Strazdas said:If we only apply the logic you provided - no.
If we apply outside logic, then it should apply to Xbox as well.Let me explain this for you:
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All these are consoles that work upright. Consoles that have been designed to work upright. Historically consoles have worked upright. We pay a lot for them and get a product we can position any way we want.
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These are cars, cars have always been designed for horisontal use. When you buy a car you don't think: "Can this work on it's side?" However expensive they are, a car has never do that.
A car is not a console, you don't buy a console with the same expectations or specs in mind as a car.
In summery: Historically consoles have worked upright and horisontal, we pay for a machine that works both ways. However a $500 console that does not go upright stinks of shoddy parts and anti consumer bullshit. We should expect that a $500 console would be an improvement on the previous generation. The Xbone is not. The 360 is a better console, so is every other console.