Microsoft: Xbox 360 Leader in Online Gaming

[edgeofblade]

I could go get a double cheeseburger for $1 from McDonald's or I could go to one of those local joints with the $5 hamburger with the best beef, cheddar, fresh lettuce, tomato, and a honey wheat bun.

Sure I could full my belly with 5 crappy Mc-ee-Dees cheeseburgers, but I'd rather skip the frozen patty on a dirty grill cooked by the lowest rung of society and get a thick, juicy, cooked to order burger from a pillar of the community.

But in reality, all the advertising is brainwashing you into thinking that the local joints burgers are the best but what you're actually getting is a mcDonald's burger for 5 times the price.

I assume you are talking about games again since I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with that culinary argument... besides your utter disgrace. They cook the burgers in butter. BUTTER!

I see no brainwashing when it comes to Xbox Live. I could simply list all the features, who did them first, and how well they work... but you would simply call that brainwashing. So instead, the problem has to be someone else's brainwashing...

 

[dragonnewby]

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and Sony just steals ideas from other companies, mostly from Nintendo.

Ummm... I hope you realise Sony is more than a gaming company...

But honestly, I don't blame fanboys by now. I blame the companies for fueling this console war.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Yeah, this is just another salvo in the console wars... but to be honest was it really fair of Sony to turn around and say "the majority of our consoles are connected to the internet" without saying "but people don't use that feature much".

That wasn't Sony who said that though. That was a done by a third party.

 

[TPiddy]

Yeah, this is just another salvo in the console wars... but to be honest was it really fair of Sony to turn around and say "the majority of our consoles are connected to the internet" without saying "but people don't use that feature much".

That wasn't Sony who said that though. That was a done by a third party.

That didn't stop Sony from touting it though.

 

[Katana314]

I call foul. There's no possible way XBox Live has more playtime then PC Gamers do. I look at all the MMOs and FPS games, and stuff for PC and I seriously don't believe that statement. XBox Live does have MW2 and a few other titles, but I don't think it compares in terms of how much people play.

True, but it's very difficult to count all the myriad online systems out there. Steam is somewhat popular, but just comparing its current numbers to the number of people currently playing Halo 3 alone is quite a stack-up. Sure, if we could somehow include every WoW, browser game, and Steam player, we'd probably have a more even fight, but there's really no centralization.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Yeah, this is just another salvo in the console wars... but to be honest was it really fair of Sony to turn around and say "the majority of our consoles are connected to the internet" without saying "but people don't use that feature much".

That wasn't Sony who said that though. That was a done by a third party.

That didn't stop Sony from touting it though.

Link where Sony touted it as a result of this study. And even if Sony did tout this fact, which they haven't, it's called business. Was it fair when Microsoft spent millions of dollars to keep games and content exclusive to the 360 for as long as they could? No, but it's still business.

 

[TPiddy]

Link where Sony touted it as a result of this study. And even if Sony did tout this fact, which they haven't, it's called business. Was it fair when Microsoft spent millions of dollars to keep games and content exclusive to the 360 for as long as they could? No, but it's still business.

Of course it's not fair and yeah it is business.... that was my point... Sony's study says more of their consoles are online, Microsoft's say more of theirs are used online... it's just more dick-waving, as another poster put it.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Link where Sony touted it as a result of this study. And even if Sony did tout this fact, which they haven't, it's called business. Was it fair when Microsoft spent millions of dollars to keep games and content exclusive to the 360 for as long as they could? No, but it's still business.

Of course it's not fair and yeah it is business.... that was my point... Sony's study says more of their consoles are online, Microsoft's say more of theirs are used online... it's just more dick-waving, as another poster put it.

Again your missing the fact that "Sony's" study was done by a third party market research company called "The Diffusion Group". They aren't affiliated with Sony, their just stating their findings. Sony hasn't come out and said it themselves. Your putting words in their mouths. It's not really dick-waving if the Sony isn't even saying anything on the matter.

 

[TPiddy]

Again your missing the fact that "Sony's" study was done by a third party market research company called "The Diffusion Group". They aren't affiliated with Sony, their just stating their findings. Sony hasn't come out and said it themselves. Your putting words in their mouths. It's not really dick-waving if the Sony isn't even saying anything on the matter.

Regardless of whether Sony is saying it or not... the point is moot.... it's both easier and free to hook a PS3 up to the internet, thus explaining the survey's findings. However, those findings in no way imply that the PS3 has a larger or better online community than LIVE.

 

[Artemicion]

"We have the most consoles connected to the internet."

"We have the most users who actually use the internet."

Well, you're both winners.

 

[GamingAwesome1]

I can't help but feel this is the computer business equivilant of a baby throwing a tantrum because his nemesis came in with a bigger toy.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Again your missing the fact that "Sony's" study was done by a third party market research company called "The Diffusion Group". They aren't affiliated with Sony, their just stating their findings. Sony hasn't come out and said it themselves. Your putting words in their mouths. It's not really dick-waving if the Sony isn't even saying anything on the matter.

Regardless of whether Sony is saying it or not... the point is moot.... it's both easier and free to hook a PS3 up to the internet, thus explaining the survey's findings. However, those findings in no way imply that the PS3 has a larger or better online community than LIVE.

No one said that the PS3 had better online or a larger community than LIVE. Now your just drifting away the point of the article. First you say that Sony was touting the results when they haven't responded to the findings. Then you accuse them of dick-waving when they haven't said anything. Now your saying that the findings don't show which console has the better online. Stick with the damn argument.

 

[TPiddy]

No one said that the PS3 had better online or a larger community than LIVE. Now your just drifting away the point of the article. First you say that Sony was touting the results when they haven't responded to the findings. Then you accuse them of dick-waving when they haven't said anything. Now your saying that the findings don't show which console has the better online. Stick with the damn argument.

Now who is arguing semantics? The implication of the study is obviously that PS3's online experience is better, which is debatable. If you're not going to read anything into the results of the survey, then why conduct a survey in the first place? What is the point of all this if the people conducting the survey were not trying to get a point across?

There is no argument here. This survey was conducted, these are the results. Microsoft posted the results of their own online usage figures. You can't argue with the results of either survey, the argument here is about what is being implied by each statement. The survey implies that PS3 has more online users, which is false, while Microsoft's statement implies that more people use their online service for actual gaming, which is true. End of argument.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

No one said that the PS3 had better online or a larger community than LIVE. Now your just drifting away the point of the article. First you say that Sony was touting the results when they haven't responded to the findings. Then you accuse them of dick-waving when they haven't said anything. Now your saying that the findings don't show which console has the better online. Stick with the damn argument.

Now who is arguing semantics? The implication of the study is obviously that PS3's online experience is better, which is debatable. If you're not going to read anything into the results of the survey, then why conduct a survey in the first place? What is the point of all this if the people conducting the survey were not trying to get a point across?

There is no argument here. This survey was conducted, these are the results. Microsoft posted the results of their own online usage figures. You can't argue with the results of either survey, the argument here is about what is being implied by each statement. The survey implies that PS3 has more online users, which is false, while Microsoft's statement implies that more people use their online service for actual gaming, which is true. End of argument.

Ok, now you're just bringing new elements into the argument, as well as the study, that weren't there before. But whatever I'll join into this little game of "change the focus". The study wasn't there to state which online service is better. That's what we call a quality survey. This study was there to observe which console had the higher percentage users connected. The researchers didn't ask which service they liked better, they simply researched which console was more likely to have users connected. Another thing that the survey shows us is a percentage. So the survey show the percentage of users, so it's not even a survey into how many more people are online on one console than another. It's just a percentage of people who use the online service out of those who have the console. So your assessment of the survey is incorrect. If you want to go into the implications of each survey then your just looking for a flame war essentially. You started this whole thing first off by saying that Sony were the ones who were touting their horns about the survey. This has never happened. You've changed your stance on the issue so much that it's hard to take what you have to say seriously. And I really enjoy that last line of your most recent post.

"The survey implies that PS3 has more online users, which is false, while Microsoft's statement implies that more people use their online service for actual gaming, which is true. End of argument."

That made me laugh because the "Diffusion Group's" study is shown in a percentage of how many U.S. PS3 are connected Online compared to the percentage of U.S. 360s connected online, and U.S. Wii's connected. There are around 12 million PS3s in the U.S. and around 19 million 360s in the U.S. The researchers obviously weren't trying to say that there are more users online for the PS3 because 78% out of 12 million isn't the higher than 73% of 19 million. So I don't know where you got the though of these researchers (who must have a higher understanding of mathematics than most in order to do their jobs) MUST be trying to make the PS3 look like it has more users online than the 360. That doesn't even make sense. And your "PS3 survey is false/360 survey is right" really shows where you stand on this. Stop trying change the issue man, i'm just finding more holes in your arguments every time you post.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

No one said that the PS3 had better online or a larger community than LIVE. Now your just drifting away the point of the article. First you say that Sony was touting the results when they haven't responded to the findings. Then you accuse them of dick-waving when they haven't said anything. Now your saying that the findings don't show which console has the better online. Stick with the damn argument.

Now who is arguing semantics? The implication of the study is obviously that PS3's online experience is better, which is debatable. If you're not going to read anything into the results of the survey, then why conduct a survey in the first place? What is the point of all this if the people conducting the survey were not trying to get a point across?

There is no argument here. This survey was conducted, these are the results. Microsoft posted the results of their own online usage figures. You can't argue with the results of either survey, the argument here is about what is being implied by each statement. The survey implies that PS3 has more online users, which is false, while Microsoft's statement implies that more people use their online service for actual gaming, which is true. End of argument.

One more thing to prove you wrong, remember when you typed this?

"Now who is arguing semantics? The implication of the study is obviously that PS3's online experience is better, which is debatable."

Yeah, that's completely wrong. I believe the title of the article was "Study Finds PS3 Most Likely to Be Online". Notice how it doesn't say "most likely" not "most users", or "most satisfying"?

 

[Irishhoodlum]

The only way that xbox users have more online time on average than PC gamers is if a majority of the PC gamers surveyed were *shudders* casuals. Go back to farmville.

Anways it seems like Microsoft (and its fanyboys) are pretty quick to defend themsleves against a survey that wasn't even started by Sony.

 

[Mister Anderson]

Though Xbox is the best compared to playstation. they lose ALOT of people to the playstation because of the cost of xbox live. even though its cheap as chips.