Microsoft's Lost $5.5 Billion On Bing (So Far)

Aprilgold

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Denamic said:
Aprilgold said:
Its not that I can't DO the key word system, its just I'd rather type a sentence, blame my father, got me into that habit.
I asked how its bad, you didn't tell me.
Because it caters to incompetence.
That always works out well, right?
Difference between being incompetent and illiterate, you said I was both, so your now just being a google fan, and I like bing because of its interface, mostly. Now then, how is it bad? Keep dodging my question and you will look quite as stupid as I do, sir, with no disrespect intended.

If I was illiterate with computers, I wouldn't have made my rig from scratch.
And if I was incompetent for using a different search... Thingy. [sub]Couldn't remember the proper term.[/sub] Then it would be quite silly. You don't seem to understand these words you sling around, or how to utilize them correctly.

Again, I like Bing because I had enough of google for giving me shit, and its quite useful and doesn't take quite as long as google does to find what I'm looking for.
Since I have a different personal preference, then I'm illiterate, and apparently incompetent, according to you, now, how is it bad?
 

phantasmalWordsmith

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Poor Microsoft. You tried to make your own search engine...Against freaking Google of all things. Bing or, Because Its Not in Google as I call it, was doomed from the start.
 

Robert Ewing

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Good. Bing is a lulzy attempt at taking first place in the search engine business. Tbh, it's not even in the top 20. Bing is shocking.
 

Denamic

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Aprilgold said:
Denamic said:
Aprilgold said:
Its not that I can't DO the key word system, its just I'd rather type a sentence, blame my father, got me into that habit.
I asked how its bad, you didn't tell me.
Because it caters to incompetence.
That always works out well, right?
Difference between being incompetent and illiterate, you said I was both
I did not.
I said you come across as such.
Seeming to be and actually being are two entirely different things.
 

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Bing has a pretty good image search actually. A lot of stuff not related to the term I'm looking for seems to get into googles image search. But ya pretty much other than that bing isn't so great. The style and feel of it isn't bad but the search results kinda suck.
 

Strixvaliano

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First time I saw something Bing on my computer I thought it was malware and wiped it completely off.

Congrats Microsoft, I guess. I'll just stick with google.
 

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questionnairebot said:
Icehearted said:
questionnairebot said:
"Quickly...Something isn't working...DO SOMETHING!"

"THROW MONEY AT IT! That should do the trick."

It's good to see the economy is failing horribly so many are left screwed...But bing is...something I guess.
A drop in the bucket for those that can afford to spend that kind of money on Bing. Job creators at work.... I guess.
I don't think there is a single thing on this planet I would throw 5 billion dollars at...Maybe strippers lol.
I could think of a few things, like oh, say AIDS research, cancer treatment, assisting the poor, but then I guess that would be money wasted when compared to funding an unpopular search engine. God knows we need Bing more than homeless people need shelter.
 

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zehydra said:
somonels said:
C++ - C#
Java - J#
iPod - Zune
iPad - Nokia phone
Mac - Windows
I thought C# was supposed to be an alternative to Java? (They are very similar, in terms of coding)
I'd say you're more correct; it's not only similar in terms of syntax, but it also modifies the idea of the JVM by making it closer to C-language efficiency, and (if I remember the details correctly) by modifying the VM to the point where code written in two different # languages will compile the same way (useful if most people are only familiar with Java or, God forbid, Fortran, but you want the compiled code to remain functionally consistent). It may even allow for literal code translation between # languages (for example, turning C# code into its J# equivalent, without the programmer manually rewriting the codebase from scratch); I haven't looked into that in awhile, though.

It does borrow many concepts from C++, but it's significantly more analogous to Java (whereas I think J# is straight-up Java syntax that can be compiled in relatively the same manner).

/geek rant



OT:I actually use Bing rather than Google (lolwut?). I have to look for images a lot, and Bing does a better job of bringing up relevant images that Google, in my experience.

And even though I'm under 30, I still appreciate the push towards natural language search over pure keyword search. And no, it's not because I'm computer illiterate; it's because I happen to think in languages rather than in keywords, and I find it faster to type out those thoughts than to think of something to search, and then try and figure out what keywords are going to bring up relevant information. Being able to type out a question rather than typing the subject of the question and scanning the results for answers, for example, has proved very helpful. Google will take the words out of the sentence and look results up, yes, but there isn't always (if ever) as much of a contextual examination as would be the case with a NLP search.

That and I'm not as worried about privacy issues with M$. It's clearly not getting the bulk of its revenue from ads, with all that money it's losing on Bing, so I doubt it has a real need to hoard information the way Google does. And Balmer has never claimed that anonymity on the web should end, mentioned off-handedly that the information scanned from Hotmail emails (if they even get scanned) could be used to track people in the event that a government is interested in a particular person. And M$ has never collected hundreds of gigabytes of people's personal data while driving around in vans for Bing Maps.
 

Paragon Fury

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Ever since Bing came out, I've liked it more than Google. I get more relevant results, I don't have to condense my search down to a few nonsensical keywords and it finds and brings up a lot more relevant pictures than Google does.

Oh, and you get a hell of a lot less porn spam when using Bing too. Hell, when it does find porn its usually better quality porn than Google.
 

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Custard_Angel said:
I never saw a reason for Bing, and still don't see one now.

As far as I can tell it offers no benefits.

Besides... Google is a verb in itself these days.

If you say "Google it" people understand what action they should take. If you say "Bing it", they'll reply with "what?" and "that's stupid".
People probably think its a quote from Friends.

OT: Nothing Microsoft does these days is a game changer.
 

Vzzdak

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Here's an article from a couple years ago that put Bing into perspective with Microsoft's typical modus operandi. It also explains the events that led up to Bing being started.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/08/31/how-microsoft-got-bing-and-why-it-is-failing-to-matter/
 

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It appears no one likes bing.... It's not great for everything, but it's a damn good search engine. If I'm looking up a recipe, or my local UPS store (screw you guys, delivering while I'm not home) then I use bing. If I'm trying to find a quote of text in a book then I use google.

Google indexes the internet, so it's useful for looking up specific things when you know exactly what you want. Bing takes what you put in when you're not sure - a close Chinese restaurant? - and helps you on the path to get that information.

My favorite part about bing is when you do your search, and the results pop up, you can mouse over the right side of the results and see a small preview of the page. I hate clicking a link and then immediately having to hit back when I realize the crap under the description was inaccurate as hell.

Think of google like newegg. You know what you want, you go and get it.
Bing is more like amazon. You're looking for something, but not sure exactly what or where it is.

Also: voice search through bing on windows phone 7 is totally awesome.
 

Alar

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Well, this isn't exactly a polite thing to do, but all I can say is, "Lol."
 

Xman490

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I feel bad for Microsoft. They gave me 200 MSP for trying Bing out (and 400 or so for buying a game on Windows Live).
 

notimeforlulz

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The money went somewhere. At least they're not downsizing... 5.5 billion sunk into the depths of international trade is pretty substantial.
 

Elyxard

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Yikes, does it cost that much to run a search engine? Constructing the site itself I'm sure was expensive, but nowhere near billions just for coding. All in advertising/servers I suppose?
 

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first time i saw bing i was like "omg i got a virus"
thwn i found out its microsoft fault and i was "omg its legal virus"
And after reading this thread im like "yeah, i told you so"

My favorite part about bing is when you do your search, and the results pop up, you can mouse over the right side of the results and see a small preview of the page.
google does that too.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
For a second there, I thought that it said that Microsoft have lost $5.5 billion on bingo and was wondering if an ageing higher-up exec had an online bingo habit.
You just made my day :D