Minecraft Adding Places to Hit the Hay

[Veylon]

BedBlock::OnInteract()
{
SpawnPoint.Location = this.Location;
Global.Time += Global.GetNighttimeRemaining();
Health = 10;
}

Glad to see an actual coder - been years since I've done any proper hacking! So, the code for how world objects behave is also used for how players behave? Very interesting!

As a word of caution here, this isn't the actual code itself. It's something similar to what would be needed, just as an example to show what it would look like.

There might be more to it. Notch might want to add a "lie down" animation, or have the screen fade to black or have the night pass on fast forward. What I'm showing is the bare bones minimum.

 

[ProGrasTiNation]

Notch/Mojang thank you for this game

 

[Lord Kloo]

Finally I can branch out rather than having to create complex portal networks...

 

[Evilbunny]

Question, if you sleep in a bed will the compass then point there or will it still point to your original spawn point? I'm making a series of houses that I can sleep in duing my trip around the world, and I would like the compass to point me back home in case I get lost.

 

[Danpascooch]

I don't like it. Bed's to restore your health are a good idea, but what's to stop players from sleeping every single night, thus rendering the entire inclusion of night meaningless?

What's wrong with sleeping through every night if you want to? It's a sandbox game, meaning you can play it how you want. If someone doesn't want to interact with night time, why should they be forced to?
Minecraft's not a competitive thing like an online shooter or something. People can already avoid night by waiting it out inside if they want, why begrudge them the ability to do so in more comfort?

Would you be ok if you could make an iron picaxe that makes you invincible and allows you to mine anything instantly?

There needs to be some balance, part of feeling accomplished at having made that olympic sized swimming pool is knowing how hard it was to do, which includes having to endure nights.

 

[1337mokro]

Kinda disappointed cause now my massive spawn highway is obsolete. I built a huge stretch of road with 2 way booster carts to get around quick after I die.

Now I just respawn in bed. Lazy, but in a good way.

Just a bed is also kind of little, I mean what about cupboards, chairs, tables, so on. We can continue making tables and furniture block by block but actually crafting them would be a nice change.

 

[infohippie]

Would you be ok if you could make an iron picaxe that makes you invincible and allows you to mine anything instantly?

There needs to be some balance, part of feeling accomplished at having made that olympic sized swimming pool is knowing how hard it was to do, which includes having to endure nights.

I wouldn't care. In a game like this, it's not like you have to use it. I get the impression you're thinking of your accomplishments in Minecraft as similar to Xbox achievements where it's all about letting other people know how much work you did, but that feeling of accomplishment comes from you knowing how much effort you put in. Just because someone else chooses not to suffer nights doesn't invalidate all your effort.

 

[Danpascooch]

Would you be ok if you could make an iron picaxe that makes you invincible and allows you to mine anything instantly?

There needs to be some balance, part of feeling accomplished at having made that olympic sized swimming pool is knowing how hard it was to do, which includes having to endure nights.

I wouldn't care. In a game like this, it's not like you have to use it. I get the impression you're thinking of your accomplishments in Minecraft as similar to Xbox achievements where it's all about letting other people know how much work you did, but that feeling of accomplishment comes from you knowing how much effort you put in. Just because someone else chooses not to suffer nights doesn't invalidate all your effort.

It's not about others knowing, it's about you knowing that the thing you built meant something because it took work. An inclusion like this is like playing Gameboy games with a gameshark.

No you don't HAVE to use it, but it shouldn't be there, it takes away the meaning of the accomplishment because it takes away the work required to get it.

 

[infohippie]

Would you be ok if you could make an iron picaxe that makes you invincible and allows you to mine anything instantly?

There needs to be some balance, part of feeling accomplished at having made that olympic sized swimming pool is knowing how hard it was to do, which includes having to endure nights.

I wouldn't care. In a game like this, it's not like you have to use it. I get the impression you're thinking of your accomplishments in Minecraft as similar to Xbox achievements where it's all about letting other people know how much work you did, but that feeling of accomplishment comes from you knowing how much effort you put in. Just because someone else chooses not to suffer nights doesn't invalidate all your effort.

It's not about others knowing, it's about you knowing that the thing you built meant something because it took work. An inclusion like this is like playing Gameboy games with a gameshark.

No you don't HAVE to use it, but it shouldn't be there, it takes away the meaning of the accomplishment because it takes away the work required to get it.

But that's exactly my point. It doesn't matter that it's there, because you didn't use it, and you know that. So it has taken you exactly the same amount of effort, and it reflects exactly the same amount of skill/determination/whatever. So there is still no reason to take the option away from other people if they want to use it.
To use your simile of playing Gameboy games with a Gameshark - Including this is like the mere existence of Gamesharks. YOU didn't use a Gameshark, so you can feel good about yourself for that. Someone else might choose to use one, and there's no reason to take that away from them just because you don't use them.
It's like forcing people to play the game your way just because you play it that way. Or like trying to ban all map editors and inventory editors because you don't use them so nobody else should either.

 

[Danpascooch]

Would you be ok if you could make an iron picaxe that makes you invincible and allows you to mine anything instantly?

There needs to be some balance, part of feeling accomplished at having made that olympic sized swimming pool is knowing how hard it was to do, which includes having to endure nights.

I wouldn't care. In a game like this, it's not like you have to use it. I get the impression you're thinking of your accomplishments in Minecraft as similar to Xbox achievements where it's all about letting other people know how much work you did, but that feeling of accomplishment comes from you knowing how much effort you put in. Just because someone else chooses not to suffer nights doesn't invalidate all your effort.

It's not about others knowing, it's about you knowing that the thing you built meant something because it took work. An inclusion like this is like playing Gameboy games with a gameshark.

No you don't HAVE to use it, but it shouldn't be there, it takes away the meaning of the accomplishment because it takes away the work required to get it.

But that's exactly my point. It doesn't matter that it's there, because you didn't use it, and you know that. So it has taken you exactly the same amount of effort, and it reflects exactly the same amount of skill/determination/whatever. So there is still no reason to take the option away from other people if they want to use it.
To use your simile of playing Gameboy games with a Gameshark - Including this is like the mere existence of Gamesharks. YOU didn't use a Gameshark, so you can feel good about yourself for that. Someone else might choose to use one, and there's no reason to take that away from them just because you don't use them.
It's like forcing people to play the game your way just because you play it that way. Or like trying to ban all map editors and inventory editors because you don't use them so nobody else should either.

You might have the self control to not use a gamebreakingly easy ability/item and still be able to appreciate the work you put into your accomplishments, I don't have that sort of self discipline, and I doubt most gamers do.

 

[C.S.Strowbridge]

A lovely, comfortable cobblestone bed.

Bigger improvements would be nice: some in-game help, for example. So you would never have to read the wiki to know how to craft stuff.

It's still Beta. I would assume when the game gets its full release, there will be a tutorial. As it is, it's probably better to not have one, because it helps the developers know what the most important thing to explain.

 

[C.S.Strowbridge]

I don't like it. Bed's to restore your health are a good idea, but what's to stop players from sleeping every single night, thus rendering the entire inclusion of night meaningless?

Does night pass instantly? Or does it speed up time, so you might still be attacked?

Then there's the problem of getting to the bed, or carrying one around with you.

 

[BENZOOKA]

A lovely, comfortable cobblestone bed.

Bigger improvements would be nice: some in-game help, for example. So you would never have to read the wiki to know how to craft stuff.

It's still Beta. I would assume when the game gets its full release, there will be a tutorial. As it is, it's probably better to not have one, because it helps the developers know what the most important thing to explain.

The lovely beta shield.

97% less criticizing gets through while you're behind that thing. 8/10 housewives noticed the difference after two weeks.

Well, as they've already got millions out of a game that's still in beta, they might as well leave it at there.

 

[lacktheknack]

I don't like it. Bed's to restore your health are a good idea, but what's to stop players from sleeping every single night, thus rendering the entire inclusion of night meaningless?

Does night pass instantly? Or does it speed up time, so you might still be attacked?

Then there's the problem of getting to the bed, or carrying one around with you.

Night passes instantly, mobs don't move, smelting doesn't speed up, etc etc.

Unfortunately, though, if a hostile mob has easy access to your bed, then THIS can happen with no time passing:

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/thumb/8/83/Mob_wakeup.png/800px-Mob_wakeup.png

FML.

 

[lacktheknack]

obvious troll is obvious. i gave clear and logical (from a developer's point of view) arguments as to why.

When your argument fails to hold up, resort to accusing the other person of being a troll. Is that what you always do? Because it's rather insulting. Just because my viewpoint differs from yours doesn't mean I'm going to accuse you of being a troll.

i removed the previous posts because it would have been too long otherwise. i made reasonable arguments as to why it would take a long time to implement something like respawn points. and you just went "derp, minecraft fanboys sticking up for mojang".

then i'm allowed to call you a troll, and i suppose i shouldn't be feeding you like i'm doing right now.

Your argument was not reasonable, as you overlooked the fact that it's just a few lines of code you shove onto an object. Thing is, I haven't seen a legitimate argument defending this incompetence yet. If you think your argument was any good, then you better restate because the first time I read it it sure didn't have any influence over me.

But that still doesn't justify calling me a troll just because you're frustrated.

please read my original post again. why would he add a few lines of code into his game when modders have already done this? that's not laziness, that's efficiency. don't fix something someone else already fixed.

and i can call you a troll when i suspect you're trolling me.

That's not efficiency, that's simply annoying me because I don't want to download spawn-fix mods. Following your argument, why is he putting it in later all, as he said he would?

 

[C.S.Strowbridge]

A lovely, comfortable cobblestone bed.

Bigger improvements would be nice: some in-game help, for example. So you would never have to read the wiki to know how to craft stuff.

It's still Beta. I would assume when the game gets its full release, there will be a tutorial. As it is, it's probably better to not have one, because it helps the developers know what the most important thing to explain.

The lovely beta shield.

It's true though. The last thing you would do is add a tutorial, because you only want to do that once everything else has been set. Nothing would suck more for a player than to go through a tutorial only to discover that the tips you were given no longer apply to the game. Yes, the developers would change the tutorial every time they changed the game, but that's a lot of extra work and there's a significant chance they would miss something along the way.