Minecraft Adding Places to Hit the Hay

[ProfessorLayton]

Very very good news. This is just more proof that even though they're a small company, they're better than the big guys because they actually listen to what their fans want.

Only problem is I'll be too busy playing Bulletstorm for the rest of my life so I won't be able to use these features. Oh well.

 

[Ca3zar416]

I'd be too afraid of waking up to a creeper being in the bed next to me.

 

[Internet Kraken]

The second phase might clue us in on the sorts of single-player changes Mojang Specifications has in mind for the future of Minecraft. RPS says that an update will hit sometime in March which will turn beds into a respawn point. When players die, they'll appear in the last bed they slept in.

Why isn't this being added in right when beds are released? This is not hard to do. Modders have already created blocks that reset your spawn location, and the amount of code needed to make such a block is incredibly short and easy to implement. I can't figure out why beds need two updates to work properly other than the developers being incredibly lazy.

maybe he didn't feel like it? maybe he thought bugs had a higher priority then new stuff?
it might be short, but if you have a bazillion short stuff to add, then stuff that's ALREADY BEEN MADE BY MODDERS might not be very high on your priority list.

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The second phase might clue us in on the sorts of single-player changes Mojang Specifications has in mind for the future of Minecraft. RPS says that an update will hit sometime in March which will turn beds into a respawn point. When players die, they'll appear in the last bed they slept in.

Why isn't this being added in right when beds are released? This is not hard to do. Modders have already created blocks that reset your spawn location, and the amount of code needed to make such a block is incredibly short and easy to implement. I can't figure out why beds need two updates to work properly other than the developers being incredibly lazy.

At least fifty people per day on the Minecraft forums accuse Notch of being lazy or incompetent because of the 'if modders can do it, why can't he?' argument. Those same people complain bitterly however when an update is released with any kind of bugs, lag or simply for the fact that their precious mods are no longer compatible. So instead of introducing two new variables in one large update that could be rife with bugs, Mojang decides to spread it out so they can have an easier time isolating the bugs. But of course, that'll never be enough to please the spoiled children of Minecraft, who'll just find something else to complain about.

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Why isn't this being added in right when beds are released? This is not hard to do. Modders have already created blocks that reset your spawn location, and the amount of code needed to make such a block is incredibly short and easy to implement. I can't figure out why beds need two updates to work properly other than the developers being incredibly lazy.

Bad Kraken, having a go at Mojang.

As someone who is on a server that has used ServerPort (the mod whose code I assume you mean b) That code is buggy as Hell, give them a break if they are wanting to iron out bugs. granted, it's a beta, but people will complain of more buggy features > less new stuff per update.

Ah right, I forgot that most of the people on the Escapist blindly defend Minecraft for no logical reason even when there's something that clearly indicates a problem. Seriously, it's only a few fucking lines of code and Notch is to lazy to put it in. There's no excuse for that. I have a lot of other problems I let slide with this game, especially since it's only in beta. But this is the first thing that has really struck me as horribly incompetent and indicative of the lack of effort being put into Minecraft.

 

[the muffin man]

I'd be too afraid of waking up to a creeper being in the bed next to me.

haha, you wake up and one is there all like: "nice bed you got there, seems to be missing something though..."

 

[Varya]

Ah right, I forgot that most of the people on the Escapist blindly defend Minecraft for no logical reason even when there's something that clearly indicates a problem. Seriously, it's only a few fucking lines of code and Notch is to lazy to put it in. There's no excuse for that. I have a lot of other problems I let slide with this game, especially since it's only in beta. But this is the first thing that has really struck me as horribly incompetent and indicative of the lack of effort being put into Minecraft.

Dude... it's kind of a leap actually calling a guy who largely by himself created a game enjoyed, or at least bought, by more than a million people, lazy because two related updates are a few weeks apart. The truth is, you don't know why, and even if it really is "only a few lines of code" there could be a million reasons the update is delayed. Now, I don't mind people who dislikes things I like, but people stating facts about people they know nothing about, I have trouble keeping calm around.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Ah right, I forgot that most of the people on the Escapist blindly defend Minecraft for no logical reason even when there's something that clearly indicates a problem. Seriously, it's only a few fucking lines of code and Notch is to lazy to put it in. There's no excuse for that. I have a lot of other problems I let slide with this game, especially since it's only in beta. But this is the first thing that has really struck me as horribly incompetent and indicative of the lack of effort being put into Minecraft.

Dude... it's kind of a leap actually calling a guy who largely by himself created a game enjoyed, or at least bought, by more than a million people, lazy because two related updates are a few weeks apart. The truth is, you don't know why, and even if it really is "only a few lines of code" there could be a million reasons the update is delayed. Now, I don't mind people who dislikes things I like, but people stating facts about people they know nothing about, I have trouble keeping calm around.

Except there are a hundred other problems with this game that are indicative of his laziness. I wouldn't care if this was just one thing, but it's not. I honestly can't stand how much praise this game gets when the people making it can't even fully implement a feature that's already been made by the modding community properly.

It feels like Notch and his team are focusing more on his other game than Minecraft now.

 

[silver wolf009]

This is both a positive and a negative. On the one hand, passing time and a new spawn point are great, but on the other this means that my nightly escepades into the observation tower to observe the world being ravaged by the undead will become null and void.

 

[Formica Archonis]

Ah right, I forgot that most of the people on the Escapist blindly defend Minecraft for no logical reason even when there's something that clearly indicates a problem. Seriously, it's only a few fucking lines of code and Notch is to lazy to put it in.

Simple way for you to win this argument: Give the few lines of code. Explain to the philistines of the Escapist and the slacking programmers at Mojang what needs to be done and show that it doesn't break single player, multiplayer, or anything else. For bonus points, plan for the future and make sure that the code you add doesn't conflict with long-term goals like a modding API, splitting the codebase into client and server, and building in further extensibility.

There's no excuse for that. I have a lot of other problems I let slide with this game, especially since it's only in beta. But this is the first thing that has really struck me as horribly incompetent and indicative of the lack of effort being put into Minecraft.

So because they're doing more work explaining that they're not doing it than you think it would take to do it, they're lazy.

 

[Devil's Due]

People need to understand that the addition of beds will not ruin the game, as creatures still spawn in darkly lit areas (sometimes even in your home if you do not light it properly) and down in caves, regardless of the time of day.

Also, there's already a Peaceful mode that removes mobs, so how's this any more game-breaking than switching from Easy to Peaceful or whatever people play? I personally enjoy the idea of beds, as I'm tired of trying to fix something outside at night during Normal or Hard sessions only to find a creeper hiding behind my door and blowing up my diamond gear. It won't remove the mobs, only reduce the nights you don't want to fight them.

Besides, you still need to kill mobs for their rewards, such as the creepers for their supplies in TNT, Skeletons for their Bone Marrow to instantly grow trees and food sources, zombies for their feathers, etc. It just depends if you want tonight to go out and harvest supplies from mobs or simply sleep the night away and built once you get back up.

As for the bed design, I'm sure that picture in the article is just another user-created bed, as it's just wool, half-stones, and signs positioned that away. Notch prefers to design the items uniquely, so it'll possibly actually look like a bed, not a fashioned one that people make just for the sake of decoration.

In the end: It's all cool, brosssssSSSSSSSS *explode*.

 

[Formica Archonis]

People need to understand that the addition of beds will not ruin the game

TRUKK NOT MUNKY!

Wait, sorry, wrong fandom.
*Leaves.*

 

[Internet Kraken]

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I don't have the code myself because I don't mod Minecraft. However, modders on Something Awful do, and their the ones who pointed out how easy it is to make a spawn block. Which is why I'm so baffled by why Mojang doesn't make beds work properly in this update. Modders have done it, it can be done easily. Normally I don't complain about how Notch manages Minecraft, but this is just horribly lazy and I really have to wonder how much effort they actually put into Minecraft if they can't get this right.

 

[Twad]

Nice, that way my barrack will look better, i hope. I wonder if 2-3 beds place next to the other merge to form a bigger one the chest blocks do.

 

[William Dickbringer]

can sleep heal you as well? that's what I kinda hope for

 

[octafish]

Now I can do even more exploring, there is nothing worse than starting to build something an hours walk away and then falling off your ramparts to your death. I have at least three half built projects that I just can't be bothered returning to. I doubt I'd use it to sleep in other than to establish it as a spawn point. Mine all night, build all day.

 

[Formica Archonis]

I don't have the code myself because I don't mod Minecraft. However, modders on Something Awful do, and their the ones who pointed out how easy it is to make a spawn block.

Fairly easy, since I've seen mods like Spawn Totem, Spawn Locus, Telecompass, etc. And I've seen them spawn a player to the wrong spawnspot, encase the player in stone or toss him up into the sky.... For something so easy to do, it's weird that everyone keeps trying to do it and it's so hard to get right the first time around. Bugs that a hundred mod-users find become nightmares when a hundred THOUSAND gamers start using them, so they have to try do it right the first time.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I don't have the code myself because I don't mod Minecraft. However, modders on Something Awful do, and their the ones who pointed out how easy it is to make a spawn block.

Fairly easy, since I've seen mods like Spawn Totem, Spawn Locus, Telecompass, etc. And I've seen them spawn a player to the wrong spawnspot, encase the player in stone or toss him up into the sky.... For something so easy to do, it's weird that everyone keeps trying to do it and it's so hard to get right the first time around. Bugs that a hundred mod-users find become nightmares when a hundred THOUSAND gamers start using them, so they have to try do it right the first time.

And what's your point? You act like Mojan bothers to even iron out bugs with each feature they implement when they put it in. When they add bed spawn changing, you can guarantee it's going to be riddled with bugs just like every other feature they implement. Again, this isn't a problem since this is a beta and we're technically testing the game. The only thing that bugs me is that they're not even implementing it from the start for no apparent reason other than sheer laziness.

If the spawn changer works without any bugs because Mojang got rid of them all prior to release, I'll take back everything I said. But I really don't see that happening.

 

[Formica Archonis]

And what's your point?

That coding can be hard. I'm sorry that wasn't obvious.

You act like Mojan bothers to even iron out bugs with each feature they implement when they put it in.

So you believe that every feature you see is version 1.0?

 

[DaHero]

Respawning in the last bed you slept in could create some awkward situations if it wasn't yours.

You sir, just won this argument.

 

[infohippie]

I don't like it. Bed's to restore your health are a good idea, but what's to stop players from sleeping every single night, thus rendering the entire inclusion of night meaningless?

What's wrong with sleeping through every night if you want to? It's a sandbox game, meaning you can play it how you want. If someone doesn't want to interact with night time, why should they be forced to?
Minecraft's not a competitive thing like an online shooter or something. People can already avoid night by waiting it out inside if they want, why begrudge them the ability to do so in more comfort?