Minecraft beats just about everything with a current 97 metascore.

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Cat of Doom

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http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/halo-combat-evolved

Yeah, the king of FPS conquers even the king of sandbox.
 

Michael Hirst

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Phlakes said:
Michael Hirst said:
At best Metacritic can just tell you how WIDE the appeal for a game is (X amount of users rated it as excellent)
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ash-brewster said:
I wouldn't get worked up over it, metacritic scores are a pile of crap.
While I would normally agree with this, I think that since it is an average score of many different critics it should be fairly accurate. Agree to disagree I guess.
Metacritic is fairly useless as a means of judging what is the perfect game as all it's date is quantative at the cost of removing all qualitative information. As we all should know a review is much more than the numerical value given at the end of it and metacritic thrwos all this informaiton out the window fixating only upon a number which has absolutely no bearing on art.

Imagine a computer trying to interpret art and having a extremely sophisticated mathematical calculation for determining artistic value, regardless of how far advanced it was (exempting possible AI that isn't aware of it's own existence as an artificial being ala Blade Runner) would still be inaccurate because it was trying to apply what is a method for QUANTIFYING which is best suited for solid facts, ie "How much money can I make if I sell X amount of burgers at Y price minus Z costs" This is what Metacritic does and because of it fails to be significant at all.

Metacritic at best can tell us how WIDELY liked a game is through quantifiable means but it can never be used as a source for defining the perfect game, something which can never be done becuase like all artforms, the medium and the experience it gives are subjective and effect different people in different ways.

tl:dr I'm not too bothered by it getting a high score because it doesn't mean jack.
...I thought that was the point. No, that's definitely the entire point. You don't criticize a can opener for not clipping your toe nails.

EDIT: Unless you use a can opener to clip your toe nails, but that's an entirely different situation that involves lots of goat cheese and anesthetic.
Ah but you see my dear Watson, "Does it truly deserve to beat 99.9% of all games?" people often misuse Metacritics scoring system as a means of defining what are it's unquantifiable aspects thereby using it as a means of discovering the best or perfect game. Its purpose is, as we can both agree, to find how WIDE the appeal is but that never determines overall quality, much like how box office ratings don't determine what the best film ever is yet they're often used as justification for exactly that, for example a lot of people said Avatar should get Oscars because it was the highest Box Office hit of all time and were disappointed when it lost to the relatively unknown (Relative to the galactic empire of hype that is Avatar) Hurt locker.
 

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Oh my god, it beat half-life 2!

Wait, hl2 has 81 reviews all positive...
Minecraft has 10 all positive reviews.
and half-life 2 has almost all positive 1.3k + user reviews.


Yea, that's gunna change in a month or 2.
 

octafish

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The game won two GOTY awards before it was even released. It really is that good.
 

AngelicSven

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Oh man, Metacrtic said it, it must be true. I'm a massive fan of the game but it's not the 'End all, Be all' of videogames.

It's all hype like how 'Avatar' was and how 'Skyrim' is.
 

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I think that's about right. Minecraft is a genuine phenomenon and will go down in history as one of the most important games of this decade. To some extent it's a game that you either 'get' or don't, and I'm sure a lot of the early adopters who bought it when it was in Alpha are jaded or burned out on it, but it's far more deserving of such a high score than any of the sequels that make up 95% of the other high profile releases this year.
 

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martintox said:
I do believe the Minecraft fandom is about the only fandom where the fans are actually more annoying than the haters (And that's coming from the guy that hates Halo with the burning hate of a million suns.).
Any game platform fan (PS3, 360, PC, etc)
My Little Pony fans
Skyrim fans
My Little Pony fans
Piracy/Illegal File Sharing of game fans
Mother fucking My Little Pony fans

I could keep going, but really: fans are more annoying than the haters all the time.
 

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mjc0961 said:
martintox said:
I do believe the Minecraft fandom is about the only fandom where the fans are actually more annoying than the haters (And that's coming from the guy that hates Halo with the burning hate of a million suns.).
Any game platform fan (PS3, 360, PC, etc)
My Little Pony fans
Skyrim fans
My Little Pony fans
Piracy/Illegal File Sharing of game fans
Mother fucking My Little Pony fans

I could keep going, but really: fans are more annoying than the haters all the time.
You forgot Portal fans who retell all the jokes and think THEY'RE funny.
 

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AngelicSven said:
It's all hype like how 'Avatar' was and how 'Skyrim' is.
Skyrim, surprisingly actually lived up to the hype.

OT: Man, I love minecraft.
But, the graphics aren't really retro, it's just notch being lazy, and the plot (yes, there's a plot, in the end credits) is more crap than cods will ever be. Seriously. The latest updates drags it down to a 4~5 from a previous 10
 

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mjc0961 said:
martintox said:
I do believe the Minecraft fandom is about the only fandom where the fans are actually more annoying than the haters (And that's coming from the guy that hates Halo with the burning hate of a million suns.).
Any game platform fan (PS3, 360, PC, etc)
My Little Pony fans
Skyrim fans
My Little Pony fans
Piracy/Illegal File Sharing of game fans
Mother fucking My Little Pony fans

I could keep going, but really: fans are more annoying than the haters all the time.
Very true. Fans generally do not know what they want and come off as looking stupid in most cases like this. Though I frown a little at the excessive use of "My Little Pony fans", even if it is true.
 

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Coldster said:
(snip) I do not believe it deserves to be above a 90% let alone the 97 it has. To me, that is a joke.(snip) Does it truly deserve to beat 99.9% of all games? (snip)
If you ask me that 97% doesn't say that Minecraft is hands down one of the best games ever played, just that there is very little that can be improved in Minecraft.

The more complicated a game gets the more differences in personal taste will affect how much you like it. For example the Modern Warfare games are pretty complicated in premise and mechanics, and if I were in charge I would make a lot of changes to the games to make them fit in better with my personal tastes.


But Minecraft is simple, build stuff and don't get killed; and you can make it even simpler by playing on creative or peaceful mode. And as far as the building stuff goes Minecraft is damn near perfect. There really isn't anything I would add or change about the building stuff aspect of Minecraft, especially if you use creative mode. That is why Minecraft deserves a 97. Not because it is THE BESTEST GAME EVAR!!!! but because it has almost no room to improve as a creativity toy, and that is a very good thing.
 

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Trull said:
AngelicSven said:
It's all hype like how 'Avatar' was and how 'Skyrim' is.
Skyrim, surprisingly actually lived up to the hype.

OT: Man, I love minecraft.
But, the graphics aren't really retro, it's just notch being lazy, and the plot (yes, there's a plot, in the end credits) is more crap than cods will ever be. Seriously. The latest updates drags it down to a 4~5 from a previous 10
I'd disagree that Skyrim even comes close to how awesome everyone thought it was going to be, for me atleast. That's just my opinion though, if you're digging it, good for you.
 

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Thing about Minecraft is, it's the first really popular entry into a new genre.

It's the same idea as angry birds, really - it may not be the best, most original, best-looking game out there when compared objectively, but with nothing really to compare it to, it truly represents the pinnacle of its genre to date. Minecraft is the sandbox exploration crafting game to which all future endeavors will inevitably be compared, and while it may not objectively deserve a perfect score, in a way it deserves the scores it's getting (including the perfect ones) simply for its monumental impact on gaming itself.
 

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The metascore will drop in time.

What's important is that Minecraft stripped back all the guff that comes with modern games. Here is a 'game' that uses bricks to generate a huge planet, gives the player stuff to do to survive, and lets them create. On a good multiplayer server it's a total hoot. And giving users simple tools (redstone+switches=circuits!) allows them to do amazing things. And the community scene is great too. The planes mod blew me away.

It's a milestone in gaming. It's a wonderful game to play and enjoy, and I hope my kid (who's a week old) gets to experience games like Minecraft when he's old enough.

I've lost countless hours to this game. I don't expect everyone to get it, but it is absolutely brilliant at what it does.

In fact, I've just fired it back up after a bit of a break, and I'll probably see the sun rise now because of that! My only complaint is that my laptop is burning the shit out of my leg.
 

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Kyrinn said:
SirBryghtside said:
I'd be willing to give it an 8/10 - but that's for 1.7.3. Nowadays it's about a 5.

So glad I got the old .jar off someone, I can finally go back to the glory days :D

Edit: if anyone wants a safe 1.7.3, just PM me. I guess to keep from getting in trouble with the mods, show a proof of purchase or something.
Not trying to nitpick but I'd hardly call 1.7.3 "The glory days"
But I kind of get it. When I bought minecraft back in alpha I spent countless hours on it. Somepoint later I just stopped, I think it was a month after beta, can't remember. I kept telling myself I'd play more again when it released but I just can't get into it.
Same here. I even joined a couple of multiplayer servers to play with friends. I payed 15 dollars for it back in alpha or somewhere around there and I had a lot of fun with it but then just got tired of it and have said I will go back to it but I just don't think a game should need mods like a lot of my friends do to actually get it to be fun to play.
 

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Yeah, Minecraft clearly deserves a 97. It's not like Notch didn't forget mod support. Or optimizing the code. And changed a game about being the video game version of Lego into Terraria 3D.

This is why I don't give a shit what reviewers give games, because they practice pure lunacy.
 

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Yeah, you're right, it probably won't stay that way for long. Skyward Sword had a 98 there for a while, remember?

OT: Good for Notch. I'm glad to see some independents getting some love.
 

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I've been playing since Alpha 1.2_02 or something like that (I forget the exact version number).

Since then I have seen Minecraft evolve tremendously into what we currently have. I would certainly say it is one of the best games out but I honestly can not say whether or not 97 is justified.

BUT:
It does offer infinite re-playability

Minecraft is constantly generating a randomised completely open world. The player is free to do whatever they want and the game shows very few restrictions.

It caters to players that want to simply go and build whatever their imagination can dream up, and it caters to players that want a more survival type experience. It also caters for everything in between.

Then comes the community and what it offers. There are a forever growing amount of mods. Some alter the world generator, some add new blocks. For people that want to up the gameplay there are mods like Millenaire that add random NPC villages with much more extended AI. There are mods like Mo's Creatures that add a lot more wildlife to the game.

For players that need more direction there are mods like Tales of Kingdoms that give the player a goal and reason to do things (Tales allows the player to kill mobs for honor and eventually build a kingdom where s/he can buy and sell items, upgrade the keep, etc).

So all in all, the reason Minecraft is such a huge success comes down to the never ending gameplay.

Decide for yourself whether 97 is appropriate.