Minecraft For Consoles Outsells Minecraft For PC

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PCs and Macs are different platforms. So it's two vs two.
This post needs more lovin! I love how no one has even bothered to reply to this xD

Now to sit back, relax, munch chocy's and watch this thread erupt into the war it is already becoming :D
Move over North Korea, The PC/Console war is a lot more interesting xD
 

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Its not really a surprise that it has sold well. I don't know any children who have a console who do not own the game. All my little cousins, my Niece and Nephew all have it. Of course I got it for a few of them. I also own it on Xbox and on my pc. I mostly play it on PC when I am playing alone because of all the mods and stuff. But, if I have kids over with relatives then I play it on split screen with them on my Xbox and they all love it.

I think you will find a large group of players on consoles are kids and a lot of the more serious gamers are on PC in any case though I am happy for the people who made the game because it is probably one of the best games of all time. It really attracts an audience and gets people involved in it. When I first heard of Minecraft I thought it was stupid as could be. Then I tried it out and got hooked.
 

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Combined sales mean nothing. It happens all the time. When Minecraft sells more copies on an individual console than it sold on the PC, that will be newsworthy.
It's special because Minecraft feels like such a PC focused game. I mean individual console sales normally outstrip PC sales for most multiplatform games (Skyrim for example was 60% 360, 35% PS3 and 15% PC which surprised me) but Minecraft seems like it should be so clunky on consoles and always had such a big home on the PC version. The fact that since it's release the PC version has outstripped combined console sales until this date is newsworthy by itself, as is the fact that that is no longer true.
Why would anyone buy Minecraft or Skyrim on a console? Mods???
Interesting actually. I thought mods play such a prominent role in both of these games, but I suppose it's actually only a sizable vocal minority of "hardcore" players that really bother with mods.

So, does this mean that Minecraft 2 will be a dumbed down console port? ;)
 

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For me, I still think the mod community on PCs is more appealing (the variety and quality of Minecraft mods is staggering). But I understand why I'm in the minority there.
I cannot fathom anyone buying a game like this for console and screwing themselves out of access to the mod community.

You might as well buy only half of a game.
A game needs to be able to stand on its own without mods. If you have to have mods to make a game worth a damn then there's more problems with it than simply getting "half of a game".

Because god forbid people enjoy the base game, right?
In my mind, it's not that they shouldn't enjoy the base game; it's got plenty of enjoyment potential all by itself. But it's that they're giving up loads of interesting mods and modpacks, skins, and so on that can really extend the game's potential once the base experience starts to get dull.

Though I'll certainly admit that some of these modpacks are too large or graphically-intensive for computers with less horsepower; I have a friend who can't play a few of the modpacks I enjoy because her system just can't handle them. (And it doesn't help things that the game runs on Java, which isn't exactly an efficient, highly-tuned gaming engine.)
 

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Initial sales are one thing, longevity is another. I had fun with vanilla Minecraft for a bit, but the only reason I'm still playing it is the mods. I don't think Mojang makes any sort of ongoing money from Minecraft, do they? Or do they charge for Realms?

Edit: Come to think of it, mods are the only reason my boys (9 and 12) are still playing it too.
 

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Tiamat666 said:
Why would anyone buy Minecraft or Skyrim on a console? Mods???
Interesting actually. I thought mods play such a prominent role in both of these games, but I suppose it's actually only a sizable vocal minority of "hardcore" players that really bother with mods.

So, does this mean that Minecraft 2 will be a dumbed down console port? ;)
As an example, let's take me.

I bought Skyrim on 360 because my 5 year-old laptop wasn't going to run it. Played it for around 200+ hours exploring everything the base game had to offer.

I got Minecraft on the laptop (it would run) - but almost didn't. You need to call your credit card company to buy it on PC because it's an out-of-country purchase. That very nearly stopped me from buying it, and I could see others just using their xbox points (or whatever they're called) to pick it up. I have yet to install a mod for Minecraft, though I have gotten a different texture pack, so it's not an essential part of the experience.
 

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I'm just trying to explain why the console versions are popular given how otherwise superior the PC version is. I've no actual idea if those parents exist or not. Most of the parents I know IRL don't have Xbox Live screamers for children so I would hope it's not too much of a stretch.
It's because, as noted above, Minecraft has next to no competition in it's age group. No, it's even more than that. You could buy Minecraft and the entirety of it's competition for little more than a few AAA FPS's. If you have a kid, a non-Nintendo console, and are in the market for an age-appropriate game, Minecraft is virtually unavoidable. It probably helps, too, that adults like it as well.
 

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I'm not surprised; every new console release means a new burst of publicity and chatter, whereas the PC version continues on the same word-of-mouth that's carried it along since the beginning (admittedly rather well.)

All very good for Mojang, though I wonder if they ever have the slightest hope of a follow-up that performs even half as well.
 

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PC elitists are obviously going to be butthurt for no reason. It's no longer about, oh the games gotten more sales, that's nice it's all about "Lul, my box sold more dan ur box, hurr" >_>
I started out as a console gamer and have moved a bit back and forth; lately just PC. Throughout my life nearly 100% of the focus on sales numbers has originated from or involved arguments with console gamers.

It's actually a lot quieter in the PC camp. It's almost like we spend our time playing awesome games on generally more awesome hardware and don't need to worry about this petty crap because the PC will continue being its awesome self year after year. It's like a PS2 that you just keep upgrading and they never stop making new games for it.
 

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CharrHearted said:
PC elitists are obviously going to be butthurt for no reason. It's no longer about, oh the games gotten more sales, that's nice it's all about "Lul, my box sold more dan ur box, hurr" >_>
I started out as a console gamer and have moved a bit back and forth; lately just PC. Throughout my life nearly 100% of the focus on sales numbers has originated from or involved arguments with console gamers.

It's actually a lot quieter in the PC camp. It's almost like we spend our time playing awesome games on generally more awesome hardware and don't need to worry about this petty crap because the PC will continue being its awesome self year after year. It's like a PS2 that you just keep upgrading and they never stop making new games for it.
I'm going to have to ask you to read through the shit people have been saying in this topic before you try to post again, while I understand the PC fans in this thread are not an accurate representation of the PC fanbase as a whole, you're taking the piss right now.
 

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Grouchy Imp said:
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For me, I still think the mod community on PCs is more appealing (the variety and quality of Minecraft mods is staggering). But I understand why I'm in the minority there.
I cannot fathom anyone buying a game like this for console and screwing themselves out of access to the mod community.

You might as well buy only half of a game.
A game that relies on mods to be successful has not been designed well. PC gamers kid themselves that mods make a game, but the bottom line is a good game requires no mods.

Just to clarify, I make this comment as an ex-PC gamer.
It doesn't rely on mods, but mods makes it even better. And it gives you more to play around with, allowing you to squeeze out more enjoyment out of it, effectively increasing the value of your investment.

Some games simply have such great mod support that it becomes unplayable without mods. That doesn't mean the game relies on them, it just means mods are fucking awesome.
 

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I'm not sure it's a particular victory that the game has sold 3 million more copies on one platform after being out for three years longer. This is a particularly odd "fight" going on, and in the end, I sort of wonder why anyone's that invested.
 

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Sensitivity. Its crude as you seem to know considering you don't like the term yourself yet you're still not retracting it. There is no shame or badness in admitting you didn't use the best language available, yet you persist...why?
Oh noes! The tone! You do realise that the word retard has more meanings than just slang for intellectual disability disorder and the the console versions of Minecraft are literally retarded.

I googled "define retard" and got:
re·tard

verb: retard; 3rd person present: retards; past tense: retarded; past participle: retarded; gerund or present participle: retarding

1.
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
"his progress was retarded by his limp"
And if Minecraft for Xbox 360 (the console version I have played) isn't "held back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment" by lack of mods, the consoles specs and the controller I don't know what is.

So even if it was used to mean that consoles are mentally retarded it's still technically correct by accident.
 

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Can't imagine why, it's simple enough to run on most computers people would have, mods are half the fun and price is hardly a barrier. I have no explanation.
 

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Oh noes! The tone! You do realise that the word retard has more meanings than just slang for intellectual disability disorder and the the console versions of Minecraft are literally retarded.

I googled "define retard" and got:
re·tard

verb: retard; 3rd person present: retards; past tense: retarded; past participle: retarded; gerund or present participle: retarding

1.
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
"his progress was retarded by his limp"
A word with a different verb tense used in a different context than he used it means something else? How enlightening.
It has other meanings so totally cool to callously throw around? I suppose it'd be alright for you to start referring to things such as say your car as being painted the colour N-guesswhat (interestingly more than one word can go here accurately, at least three off the top of my head) too right? After all its a word/s that originally just referred to the colour black, though something tells me you wouldn't due to being a bit more sensitive than you let on, even if it is brought about by fear.

He used it in a offensive manner simple as, no dancing around by you, or little notes about using it "non-seriously" by him change that.
Also no you cannot use the word retarded in the context of the console-PC situation...well I suppose there is a manner of doing so in regards to gaming if you subscribe to certain bunk, but its not what you gave so irrelevant.
And before you continue all this as I've seen those lines of yours before, I'm not going to be debating peoples rights to safely call others retards. Its offensive, end of story.
 
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Denamic said:
Grouchy Imp said:
beastro said:
Avaholic03 said:
For me, I still think the mod community on PCs is more appealing (the variety and quality of Minecraft mods is staggering). But I understand why I'm in the minority there.
I cannot fathom anyone buying a game like this for console and screwing themselves out of access to the mod community.

You might as well buy only half of a game.
A game that relies on mods to be successful has not been designed well. PC gamers kid themselves that mods make a game, but the bottom line is a good game requires no mods.

Just to clarify, I make this comment as an ex-PC gamer.
It doesn't rely on mods, but mods makes it even better. And it gives you more to play around with, allowing you to squeeze out more enjoyment out of it, effectively increasing the value of your investment.

Some games simply have such great mod support that it becomes unplayable without mods. That doesn't mean the game relies on them, it just means mods are fucking awesome.
Wading through the vast sea of mods to find the few exceptional ones was, if I remember correctly, a colossal pain in the arse. And the thing is that games don't need mods. Their availability may add some extra enjoyment to a title, but if a title is enjoyable on it's own then that doesn't really matter.

Another thing to bear in mind is that console games are not the sterile, one-off titles that many people seem to think they are. Minecraft on the 360, for example, has none of the mod support that PC gamers enjoy, but the game still receives regular patch updates from Mojang and additional 'features' such as skin and texture packs are added to the Minecraft <a href=http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Minecraft/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584111f7?nosplash=1#LiveZone>downloads section on a fairly regular basis as and when various packs are approved by the devs (although why someone would want to alter the look of Minecraft, given that the original art style is part of the charm of the game, is beyond me).
 

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Rozalia1 said:
I suppose it'd be alright for you to start referring to things such as say your car as being painted the colour N-guesswhat too right?
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

The poster in question countered a commonly-used insult (elitist) with another commonly-used insult (tard, short for retard). Both are known to be insulting words. Neither are as bad as ******, but where your logic train derails is in attributing too much meaning to the words used (only looking at them on the surface, a very shallow view given the depth and history behind each word) and not to the intent behind them.

The first poster meant it as an insult - the full quote there is
PC elitists are obviously going to be butthurt for no reason. It's no longer about, oh the games gotten more sales, that's nice it's all about "Lul, my box sold more dan ur box, hurr" >_>
Not only does this quote attempt to paint PC gamers as elitists, it also attempts to paint them as less intelligent (note the language used toward the end, in quotes). The intent behind this post is, quite obviously, to simply insult PC gamers - an attack on an "opposing" group of gamers whose attitude and character he intended to disparage. Noting this blatant and overt insult, another poster responded with an obviously satirical "reaction,"
As opposed to console tards jumping at the opportunity to use an asinine, pointless, and ultimately meaningless sales statistic to attempt to both mock PC gamers and justify their purchase of their console of choice?
Complete with a footnote indicating his satire, and that it was a comically overblown reaction, just in case someone was thick enough to not see it the first time. The user himself has admitted he doesn't like the term, but it's common parlance on this and many other internet forums, so it fit the theme of his post. He also follows up with "See? I can make dismissive generalizations too. That doesn't make them true or any less insulting," showing his disdain for the ad hominem fallacious arguments presented by the first poster.

The intention behind what is posted matters far more than specific words or language used. A person intending to be hurtful can use no swear words or racial slurs and still get his point across - can still offend, can still degrade. Similarly, a person can use language full of swears and slurs and not offend anyone at all. It happens daily, everywhere around the world. Focusing on the surface level - only on word choice - shows a shocking lack of understanding of the power of language and an ignorance of its intricacies. Don't be afraid to dig a little deeper - it's what makes us human. If you can only ever see what's on the surface, you will miss the majority of meaning in everything you do.

What irks me most about your posts is your obvious intention to be offensive yourself, with a self-styled insult you bandy about at will. You attack other users' characters and personality, with logical fallacies like "I'd hope you would have been "big" enough to say that it was wrong to make such a remark" (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem) while attempting to claim that "such a crude insult" should be avoided at all costs, ignoring language's power to be hurtful and disparaging without using any "crude" language whatsoever. Hypocrisy is quite common on the internet, I'm afraid, so I can't really grill you too hard on your blatant double standards.

In the end, you basically miss "the whole point" of language - its depth and complexity. While Vigormortis used the word "retard" in his post, he was not calling anyone a retard, not even the person he was responding to. He was not disparaging console players, PC players, or even people who suffer from mental illness - he was using it as an example to show how silly the "argument" of the previous poster was. And considering how bunched up your panties got over this, I'd say he succeeded.
 

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Had a longish post, but as the issue has been addressed I've deleted it as dragging this on for pages and pages is ultimately pointless.

I'll just say no-one should even jokingly callously call others a retard (or the rest). Its devaluing the offensive aspect, treating it like it ain't no problem.
It also doesn't matter if it is a common term on other forums.

Nice talking to you...oh and I haven't invented any term, nor is it in any way offensive.
 

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NiPah said:
I'm going to have to ask you to read through the shit people have been saying in this topic before you try to post again, while I understand the PC fans in this thread are not an accurate representation of the PC fanbase as a whole, you're taking the piss right now.
The Escapist is not an accurate representation of anything or anyone. The only people that should read through all the shit-talking waste of white space on here are mods that have an obligation. I don't need to confer with whatever thread I'm in or take it as some sort of barometric reading to correct my life experience and empirical evidence; they supersede the inanity of a few keyboard warriors.