Mists of Pandaria Opening Sales Stumble
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Maybe WoW isn't getting worse? Maybe people are realising (slowly) that MMO's are shit in general.
It's obviously declining, what do you expect?
It's obviously declining, what do you expect?
Nothing lasts forever, especially in this fast moving industry. While it was amazing that the amount of revenue that this game raked in per month grew as long as it did, it was going to peak sooner or latter. Fans shouldn't really worry though, remeber how long Ultima Online has lasted (15 years to WOW's 8) on far less money? It will still take a considerably long time for this game's servers to be deactivated, considering the large amount of money it'll still make, and even then the private servers will likely be up for longer than the official servers.
This isn't even considering the possibility that Blizzard has more tricks up its sleeve to further postpone the enevitable shutdown if not raise back up the growth rate of their revenue.
This isn't even considering the possibility that Blizzard has more tricks up its sleeve to further postpone the enevitable shutdown if not raise back up the growth rate of their revenue.
Honestly great expansion I whole heartly tell anyone whose played wow and enjoyed it DON'T GO BACK! You'll loose your life all over again!
Its... dare i say it close to the best its been since maybe even TBC. If it keeps the quality level its at then this could be a big recovery from Cata but that'll have to be seen in the coming months and updates.
Thats my opinion and hate me for loving it but pandas ain't that far from big cow men lets not double standard damnit
Its... dare i say it close to the best its been since maybe even TBC. If it keeps the quality level its at then this could be a big recovery from Cata but that'll have to be seen in the coming months and updates.
Thats my opinion and hate me for loving it but pandas ain't that far from big cow men lets not double standard damnit
WoW is not dying. Are you people drunk? Even if it lost half its subs overnight, it'd still be pulling in more money and have more people playing than any other MMO. Everquest, despite being worse than WoW in pretty much every way, managed to put out like 20+ expansions.
And you think WoW won't even last that long? Yeah keep thinking that.
And you think WoW won't even last that long? Yeah keep thinking that.
Having bought the digital edition, like all my wow-playing friends I have to say this seems rather early to say much about pandaria being the end of wow. Having played it for a few days, I'm more than happy with it, the opposite of how I felt at the start of Cataclysm.
Time will tell, as always, and releasing within a month of the most anticipated MMO ever (that actually somewhat lives up to the hype) was obviously going to hurt initial sales. Lots of people will be waiting for the price to drop anyway, £30 is a LOT for an expac with monthly fees.
Time will tell, as always, and releasing within a month of the most anticipated MMO ever (that actually somewhat lives up to the hype) was obviously going to hurt initial sales. Lots of people will be waiting for the price to drop anyway, £30 is a LOT for an expac with monthly fees.
To be entirely fair, we're talking about an expansion pack to an eight year old game selling over half a million copies. That might be "disappointing," but I'd say WoW's had a pretty good run, even if it is "dying."
PS: Non-MMO player here. I fear and loathe my fellow man, but I am impressed with the staying power of this game. Hence the comment. I shall shut up now.
PS: Non-MMO player here. I fear and loathe my fellow man, but I am impressed with the staying power of this game. Hence the comment. I shall shut up now.
I only put about 10 levels in a trial version before realizing it wasn't my thing...
From an outsider who loves other Blizzard games, I'd say it's simply the content of this expansion that is the major problem. Cataclysm was an interesting idea.
It had marketing value which gave me interest to go back and try a game I didn't care for.
Mists of Pandaria just misses the mark. It's such a niche part of the warcraft world and does nothing to make you want to visit it. They just missed the mark on this expansion idea IMO.
From an outsider who loves other Blizzard games, I'd say it's simply the content of this expansion that is the major problem. Cataclysm was an interesting idea.
It had marketing value which gave me interest to go back and try a game I didn't care for.
Mists of Pandaria just misses the mark. It's such a niche part of the warcraft world and does nothing to make you want to visit it. They just missed the mark on this expansion idea IMO.
Also, all the QQ about 'Wow sucks now', ugh, so ridiculous. WoW is as good as it has ever been, we've just been playing the same game for 8 years. People, you're going to get sick and tired of it eventually! It's not a reflection of a decrease in quality, if anything the fact that a lot of people managed to play for 8 years without getting terribly bored speaks volumes about just how high quality a product it is. Doing largely the same task over and over for 8 years will eventually wear thing, no matter how much fun it was.
Ex WoW player.
Just popping in to say that whilst ignoring digital sales is a massive failure I still hope that this is the beginning of the end. I aint one of the alarmists (Been playing since release up until I hit 85 and bought my motorbike) who has been saying "THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END" since the days Blackrock opened.
But I do think that for many people Pandaria has no appeal. None of my old WoW buddies are booting it up, most of them are either playing Guild Wars or Torchlight. None of us have touched D3 since a month after release and none of us can be bothered with Starcraft any more.
I guess what I am saying is I think it is time Blizzard died. Or at least, most of Blizzards IP died. WoW lore is convuluted and fucking retarded (Giant zeppelins, planes, paratroopers, tanks, guided rockets... And swords. Its basically the cold fucking war. With swords. I just cannot get into it any more). Diablo 3 was a kick in the teeth, not because of the Always Online bullcrap (I have no issue with that) but because it was boring and samey and every fucking character of the same class was identical to you in every respect but gear.
So.
I hope this is the end of Blizzard. Or at least the end of WoW. Maybe they can produce a new game that I might be interested in. But I will not be suckered into WoW ever again, I will never buy a product associated with the world of Sanctuary, unless they intend to retcon most of the new Warcraft lore (Or set a sequel hundreds/thousands of years into the future/past) I will never touch a Warcraft title again.
If anything because I know if I get on WoW again it will only be a matter of time before I come across Worgen/Panda sex. And that would scar me.
Just popping in to say that whilst ignoring digital sales is a massive failure I still hope that this is the beginning of the end. I aint one of the alarmists (Been playing since release up until I hit 85 and bought my motorbike) who has been saying "THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END" since the days Blackrock opened.
But I do think that for many people Pandaria has no appeal. None of my old WoW buddies are booting it up, most of them are either playing Guild Wars or Torchlight. None of us have touched D3 since a month after release and none of us can be bothered with Starcraft any more.
I guess what I am saying is I think it is time Blizzard died. Or at least, most of Blizzards IP died. WoW lore is convuluted and fucking retarded (Giant zeppelins, planes, paratroopers, tanks, guided rockets... And swords. Its basically the cold fucking war. With swords. I just cannot get into it any more). Diablo 3 was a kick in the teeth, not because of the Always Online bullcrap (I have no issue with that) but because it was boring and samey and every fucking character of the same class was identical to you in every respect but gear.
So.
I hope this is the end of Blizzard. Or at least the end of WoW. Maybe they can produce a new game that I might be interested in. But I will not be suckered into WoW ever again, I will never buy a product associated with the world of Sanctuary, unless they intend to retcon most of the new Warcraft lore (Or set a sequel hundreds/thousands of years into the future/past) I will never touch a Warcraft title again.
If anything because I know if I get on WoW again it will only be a matter of time before I come across Worgen/Panda sex. And that would scar me.
If Blizzard doesn't release those numbers, no amount of effort will make them appear.kortin said:
And usually if you have good news, you release it.
Well, seeing as I know off 1 person amongst a few hundred in my guild that didn't buy it digitally, I'll wait for them to count those sales too.
Not that I'm worried, it's still an epic game and Pandaria just made it more fun.
Not that I'm worried, it's still an epic game and Pandaria just made it more fun.
<-- Pandaria certainly tempted THIS missing subscriber back. That's the whole reason I returned to WoW - because they were finally making a story about my favorite joke Asian race of bear people. The Pandaren Brewmaster was my favorte Warcraft 3 hero, so imagine how ecstatic I was when I heard you could play a Pandaren in WoW.
After getting back into the game via Scroll of Resurrection, I gotta say, WoW is frickin' awesome. I love it.
After getting back into the game via Scroll of Resurrection, I gotta say, WoW is frickin' awesome. I love it.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Even if a vast majority of sales for MoP have been digital, the fact that the numbers changed so much in a relatively short period of time is very significant. Plus, the fact that Blizzard hasn't released any numbers is really telling to how well this expansion sold.Frostbite3789 said:
Personally, I hope we can reach an era where there isn't one dominant MMO that everybody's trying to emulate. I don't think WoW should die, I just think that other MMOs should be at a similar popularity to it. However, based on the recent trends in WoW, I wouldn't be surprised if this day is closer than we think.
I think someone is vastly underestimating the power of digital sales.
If that is really the only number of people that have bought MoP, then we should quickly see a huge loss of subscribers. And I don't mean a million. I mean several million, potentially half their base.
If that is really the only number of people that have bought MoP, then we should quickly see a huge loss of subscribers. And I don't mean a million. I mean several million, potentially half their base.
I guess I'm not surprised. WoW is the most expencive MMO, what with charging $20-$40 per expansion & then charging a subscription on top of that when almost all MMOs these days seem to be FTP with cash shops, then one or 2 new MMOs dethroned WoW this year on having the most subscribers, & you can't get Pandaria to work unless you have ALL of the expansions, or so I here.
But yeah, probably greatly underestimating direct download sales. In a day & age when everyone demands instant gratification, why go to a store & pay for a mark-up retail version when you can get it cheaper & quicker online? & if the retail & online prices are the same....that's just wrong.
But yeah, probably greatly underestimating direct download sales. In a day & age when everyone demands instant gratification, why go to a store & pay for a mark-up retail version when you can get it cheaper & quicker online? & if the retail & online prices are the same....that's just wrong.
I disagree. It is showing that the brick and mortar market is turning into a bit of a dinosaur. I think we will see gamestop and similar retailers completely out of the loop for PC within the next 20 years. Consoles within the next 40.kortin said:
Yo, just posting here to note that I accidentally reported someone's post on this page while madly clicking around as though my hand were seizing, so ignore that one, mods.