Miyamoto Decides When Nintendo Releases Next Console

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Pendragon9 said:
I just hope they'll stop teaching their fanboys to stop hating high definition.
I don't think they ever out and out said "HATE HIGH-DEF", if anything they said it wasn't necessary, and given that the HD market has failed to skyrocket in recent years for a variety of reasons, then it isn't necessary
 

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I always thought that the next one would be kind of like a 3d scanner of the room, that is it scans the entire room you're in and picks up on potential cover as it were and use it, picks up on the tilt of the wii mote and various other components. I thought that would be the next logical step, but you never know.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
According to Fils-Aime: "When Mr. Miyamoto goes to Mr. Iwata and says. 'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,' that's when there will be a next generation console. What that includes we'll see."
I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii:

High Definition.
 

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Has everyone in the world forgotten what the Wii was named?

It's still absurd! They can sit on their high horse with their mountains of cash, but they still made it on a console named after -

[Transmission terminated for preservation of decency.]
 

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SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
Nope, no bias here.
Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.
 

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LeonLethality said:
Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.
As long as they move in the right direction. They need to get more third party developers into wanting to make games for it.

Its a great concept and has some good things going for it. But, it needs more
 

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AceDiamond said:
Pendragon9 said:
I just hope they'll stop teaching their fanboys to stop hating high definition.
I don't think they ever out and out said "HATE HIGH-DEF", if anything they said it wasn't necessary, and given that the HD market has failed to skyrocket in recent years for a variety of reasons, then it isn't necessary
Exactly this.
I don't understand where the "Nintendo Hates HD" came from, to me i just don't think HD is necessary.

OT: I would love to give him a high five, Nintendo does Motion Control and it works pretty well but, everyone says its a Gimmick and its going to fail.
Sony and Microsoft begin with their own Motion control and its the best idea sense Tetris.

And i knew Miyamoto had that much sway, the man has come up with some amazing ideas.
The wii has some great Potential.
Just looking at the DS Download feature on the Nintendo Channel makes me think of tons of ways it could be used.
 

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The way the title was worded made me think of a spoiled child going "I GET TO DECIDE! ONLY I DO!"
 

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As long as the sensor of the motion control system is not on the stupid controller. And fix that stupid accelerometer problem with the motion plus. Most annoying piece of gaming hardware I have ever encountered.

Please make your new console friendlier for third party publishers. I really don't want to buy a Nintendo console just for the dozen or so Nintendo games. This is made worse by the fact that the Wii is essentially a slightly overclocked Gamecube, and because I have a N64 and Gamecube that means that I'm really not missing much given that Nintendo games are more or less the same 4 or 5 things.
 

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Why aren't I looking forward to the Wii 2 and his new idea's? Oh I know why! If your going to innovate again Miyamoto at least execute it well this time, everyone knows the shovelware is what made you all that money and that you lack good 3rd party games. And for the love of God please make a controller that isn't a pain in the ass or at least let us be able to use the Gamecube controller with all the games this time, I don't want to buy a whole new lot of chargers just so I can use the new console.

My Wii has been gathering dust for awhile now and the bloody remotes give me so much trouble sometimes that I couldn't be bothered trying. I have every single console and the Wii has been the only disappointing one, well the DS wasn't great either, he should try to improve the library first before ditching them both otherwise I'll feel it wasn't worth the money.
 

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Sir John The Net Knight said:
AkJay said:
SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
Nope, no bias here.
Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.
And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.

*Illogical Rant Edited out for space reasons*
Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.

And gimmick? I like how the Wii is a gimmick while Natal, SIXAXIS and Move are innovative ideas that certainly were not influenced by anybody's market success at all.
 

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Little Duck said:
I always thought that the next one would be kind of like a 3d scanner of the room, that is it scans the entire room you're in and picks up on potential cover as it were and use it, picks up on the tilt of the wii mote and various other components. I thought that would be the next logical step, but you never know.
That's uh...sort of, well...exactly what project natal is.

I dislike all motion controls though. Just waiting for Other M and possibly the next zelda game to give one last dying breath to my wii, then i'm selling it shortly after.
 

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AceDiamond said:
In Sir John's defense;
In terms of innovation, I thought that Flower, Heavy Rain, and Mirror's Edge were all more innovative than just about anything I've seen on the Wii (except for Cooking Mama, just for the game design concept). Not to mention that the "motion control" from Flower (which wasn't really even motion control) was better done than most games that use a Wiimote.

As for shovelware; shovelware goes to whichever console is selling the best. So any argument there is pointless.

As for gimmicky stuff; Wii waggle and Sixaxis are both gimmicks (generally speaking). Natal and Move aren't out yet, but I've yet to see anything suggesting that it won't be a gimmick.

EDIT: My overall opinion of motion control is that it's crap. It's a fairly painful and lengthy learning experience that will eventually bridge the good times of controllers and full 3D Virtual Reality gaming. Or at least until we get the gaming version of Norman Jayden's ARI. A pair of sensor gloves and slick glasses.
 

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AceDiamond said:
Sir John The Net Knight said:
AkJay said:
SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
Nope, no bias here.
Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.
And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.

*Illogical Rant Edited out for space reasons*
Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.

And gimmick? I like how the Wii is a gimmick while Natal, SIXAXIS and Move are innovative ideas that certainly were not influenced by anybody's market success at all.
To be fair, Sony ripped off Six-Axis only while the wii motion controls were announced and in development. No one expected the wii to be so successful before release, i even had my doubts when i was (formerly) a hard core nintendo-fanboy.
 

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Sir John The Net Knight said:
AceDiamond said:
Sir John The Net Knight said:
And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.

*Illogical Rant Edited out...*
Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.

And gimmick? I like how the Wii is a gimmick while Natal, SIXAXIS and Move are innovative ideas that certainly were not influenced by anybody's market success at all.
I am not a member of the Sony Defense Force, I am not a PS3 fanboy. I'm a Final Fantasy tard, get it right. And I do have plenty of issues with the endless amount of generic first person shooters that get cranked out on consoles, which I made a thread about not long ago that was roundly ignored for having too many words.

Let me straighten a couple of things out here. For one, graphics and gameplay are not mutually exclusive. You can make a game that has both and many people regularly do. Most Wii games have neither, so people like me take joyous pride in making you aware of that fact.

Secondly, the only thing that I'm butthurt about the Wii is that I actually bought one. Which I later sold because it turned out to be more useful as a paperweight than a gaming system. And this is a complaint I hear very often from gamers like myself who bought one and found it to be less than enjoyable.

Third, every system has shovelware. Even golden age systems like the NES, SNES and Gameboy had plenty of shovelware shit-shingles. Why? Because there are gaming companies who would rather make a quick buck by slapping together a shitty game and sticking in a character that appeals to 9-year olds, thus ensuring that mommy will buy the game to shut the kid up. However, the Wii's shovelware library is the most prevalent since the Atari 2600. And this is due to a lack of quality titles to distract your attention from the Hannah Montana games.

And finally, I am not surprised that Sony and MS are making gimmicky tinkertoys for their systems? In fact I predicted they would, as did many other people. The difference is that Sony and MS aren't taking a crap on their core player base to exclusively sell shit like Wii Fit to people who aren't wired in and don't know it's crap.

No one here is stopping you from loving Nintendo. But flip the coin over and no one is stopping me from dissing their questionable business practices and rolling my eyes at their rehashed offerings and gimmicks.
Amen to this.

But i'd still call you a fanboy (sorry =/)
 

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Craftybonds said:
Little Duck said:
I always thought that the next one would be kind of like a 3d scanner of the room, that is it scans the entire room you're in and picks up on potential cover as it were and use it, picks up on the tilt of the wii mote and various other components. I thought that would be the next logical step, but you never know.
That's uh...sort of, well...exactly what project natal is.

I dislike all motion controls though. Just waiting for Other M and possibly the next zelda game to give one last dying breath to my wii, then i'm selling it shortly after.
Sort of but not quite. I also totally thought up the idea before them. I can't really explain it, imagine your living room was analysed as a 3d fish net, the wii mote can be identified at any one grid point in this net. The net can also identify tv size, so it knows where you're pointing and if you're pointing off screen.