I don't think they ever out and out said "HATE HIGH-DEF", if anything they said it wasn't necessary, and given that the HD market has failed to skyrocket in recent years for a variety of reasons, then it isn't necessaryPendragon9 said:I just hope they'll stop teaching their fanboys to stop hating high definition.
I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii:Tom Goldman said:According to Fils-Aime: "When Mr. Miyamoto goes to Mr. Iwata and says. 'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,' that's when there will be a next generation console. What that includes we'll see."
Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.SaintWaldo said:Nope, no bias here.Tom Goldman said:I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
As long as they move in the right direction. They need to get more third party developers into wanting to make games for it.LeonLethality said:Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.
Exactly this.AceDiamond said:I don't think they ever out and out said "HATE HIGH-DEF", if anything they said it wasn't necessary, and given that the HD market has failed to skyrocket in recent years for a variety of reasons, then it isn't necessaryPendragon9 said:I just hope they'll stop teaching their fanboys to stop hating high definition.
Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.Sir John The Net Knight said:And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.AkJay said:Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.SaintWaldo said:Nope, no bias here.Tom Goldman said:I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
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That's uh...sort of, well...exactly what project natal is.Little Duck said:I always thought that the next one would be kind of like a 3d scanner of the room, that is it scans the entire room you're in and picks up on potential cover as it were and use it, picks up on the tilt of the wii mote and various other components. I thought that would be the next logical step, but you never know.
In Sir John's defense;AceDiamond said:*Snip*
To be fair, Sony ripped off Six-Axis only while the wii motion controls were announced and in development. No one expected the wii to be so successful before release, i even had my doubts when i was (formerly) a hard core nintendo-fanboy.AceDiamond said:Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.Sir John The Net Knight said:And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.AkJay said:Well, you have to admit, Sony and Microsoft thought motion-control was a stupid idea. Then, after a few million dollars worth of Wii's were bought, they suddenly start doing Motion-Control. It's so blatently obvious that they got their shit thrown back at their faces. I own both Wii and PS3, and I admittedly play my PS3 more, but I love what the Wii brings to the table. It does not care what Xbox or PS3 are doing, whereas Microsoft and Sony are in an ever-constant battle to out-due each other.SaintWaldo said:Nope, no bias here.Tom Goldman said:I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.
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And gimmick? I like how the Wii is a gimmick while Natal, SIXAXIS and Move are innovative ideas that certainly were not influenced by anybody's market success at all.
Amen to this.Sir John The Net Knight said:I am not a member of the Sony Defense Force, I am not a PS3 fanboy. I'm a Final Fantasy tard, get it right. And I do have plenty of issues with the endless amount of generic first person shooters that get cranked out on consoles, which I made a thread about not long ago that was roundly ignored for having too many words.AceDiamond said:Yeah like Generic Action Game that just happens to have the gimmick of 256 players, right? Look, I think we're all well aware that Nintendo spent a decade not being the top dog while Sony did, so it's equally as "genuine" for me to say that Sony fans are butthurt about their decade-long reign coming to an expensive and gimmicky end at the hands of a system that didn't need to be the most cutting-edge in graphics technology to beat it. And really, you're going to bring Shovelware into an argument involving Sony's decade-long reign when the PS1 and PS2 were positively laden-down with shovelware.Sir John The Net Knight said:And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.
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And gimmick? I like how the Wii is a gimmick while Natal, SIXAXIS and Move are innovative ideas that certainly were not influenced by anybody's market success at all.
Let me straighten a couple of things out here. For one, graphics and gameplay are not mutually exclusive. You can make a game that has both and many people regularly do. Most Wii games have neither, so people like me take joyous pride in making you aware of that fact.
Secondly, the only thing that I'm butthurt about the Wii is that I actually bought one. Which I later sold because it turned out to be more useful as a paperweight than a gaming system. And this is a complaint I hear very often from gamers like myself who bought one and found it to be less than enjoyable.
Third, every system has shovelware. Even golden age systems like the NES, SNES and Gameboy had plenty of shovelware shit-shingles. Why? Because there are gaming companies who would rather make a quick buck by slapping together a shitty game and sticking in a character that appeals to 9-year olds, thus ensuring that mommy will buy the game to shut the kid up. However, the Wii's shovelware library is the most prevalent since the Atari 2600. And this is due to a lack of quality titles to distract your attention from the Hannah Montana games.
And finally, I am not surprised that Sony and MS are making gimmicky tinkertoys for their systems? In fact I predicted they would, as did many other people. The difference is that Sony and MS aren't taking a crap on their core player base to exclusively sell shit like Wii Fit to people who aren't wired in and don't know it's crap.
No one here is stopping you from loving Nintendo. But flip the coin over and no one is stopping me from dissing their questionable business practices and rolling my eyes at their rehashed offerings and gimmicks.
Sort of but not quite. I also totally thought up the idea before them. I can't really explain it, imagine your living room was analysed as a 3d fish net, the wii mote can be identified at any one grid point in this net. The net can also identify tv size, so it knows where you're pointing and if you're pointing off screen.Craftybonds said:That's uh...sort of, well...exactly what project natal is.Little Duck said:I always thought that the next one would be kind of like a 3d scanner of the room, that is it scans the entire room you're in and picks up on potential cover as it were and use it, picks up on the tilt of the wii mote and various other components. I thought that would be the next logical step, but you never know.
I dislike all motion controls though. Just waiting for Other M and possibly the next zelda game to give one last dying breath to my wii, then i'm selling it shortly after.