Miyamoto Decides When Nintendo Releases Next Console

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Anyone who says motion control doesn't work needs to play metroid prime 3. Then go back to "generic space marine and/or military shooter 7" and see how much gamepad fps controls suck compared to wiimote aiming.

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that mario galaxy does.

That said the ps3 slim is very tight and it is on my list to buy sometime now that I have an HD tv.

Nintendo just had the most brilliant marketing and release strategy this gen. And the fanbois collectively have that vein throbbing on their forehead when they think about it.

I think you're confusing brilliance with astronomical luck and Metroid Prime 3 with Metroid Prime 1 which was an infinitely better because it had no wii-mote and no emotions being spoonfed to a mute protagonist.

Every single aspect of the Wii launch was planned out beforehand. Exactly what do you attribute to luck?

1. no hi def to lower the console price
2. proven manufacturing process so they could scale up easily with demand - ps3 failed on that point (not that there was any demand until the price dropped)
4. proven technology so the customers weren't beta testers (xbox 50% fail rate)
5. Wii Sports was not only a great tech demo but actually FUN. It showed off the capabilities and the potential. And it was a great sales tool. Nintendo knew they had the fanbois and the people who will buy just about anything. But the early adopters friends and family played a game of bowling or two and even if they never owned a console in their lives they went out and bought one.
6. sold at a profit from day 1

I'll just have to disagree with you on MP3 vs 1 because I played both and think the motion controls only added to the experience. Particularly if you never used lockon fire and had to aim 100% of the time.

And I can name hundreds of games that are better and invoke far more joy than SMG, though it was a good game. But I'm not gonna do it, because I'm tired and I don't feel the need to try and impress people.

Hundreds is a colossal exaggeration. There are hundreds of games, yet you don't even list one. How about 5 system exclusives on either hd system? The only one I saw for PS3 that had potential was Ratchet and Clank. The funny thing is for the 360 has several XBLA games that could do it. But I don't know of any disk games that aren't also cross platform and ported to the PC.

 

[almostgold]

New ideas...? NINTENDO?

Did you really just say Nintendo doesn't have many new ideas? What about the entire concept of the Wii? Or the DS? Whether or not you like those ideas is different entirely, but to claim they're not bringing new ideas out there?

 

[Delusibeta]

Anyone who says motion control doesn't work needs to play on a PC. Then go back to "generic space marine and/or military shooter 7 360" and see how much gamepad fps controls suck compared to mouse and WASD.

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that *insert any good PC indie game here, (for example: World Of Goo, Audiosurf) or Team Fortress 2* does.

That said the ps3 slim is very tight and it is on my list to buy sometime now that I have an HD monitor.

Valve just had the most brilliant distribution and release strategy ever. And the fanbois collectively have that vein throbbing on their forehead when they think about it.

And now it's a PC fanboy post.

Although, you have to admit the mouse is superior to the right thumb stick.

 

[Mr.PlanetEater]

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that mario galaxy does.

Braid
Castle Crashers
Half-Life 2 episode 2
Fallout 3
Alien Hominid HD
Portal
Is that enough or do I need to go on until you snap out of your Nintendo in the 90's dream. :/
I love Nintendo and all but it annoys the heck out of me when people ***** about one console or another.

 

[Stabby Joe]

The way the title was worded made me think of a spoiled child going "I GET TO DECIDE! ONLY I DO!"

Well, Miyamoto did save the company and make it one of the top 3 of our time near single-handedly with his ideas. So no wonder Nintendo worship- sorry, allow Miyamoto to pull much of the strings.

I'm not questioning his worth, it's what the title made me think at first.

 

[RJ Dalton]

Must be nice to wield that level of power in a company.

 

[Reolus]

Apples and oranges.

I have a Wii, but I barely ever play it and I'll never sell it. It's like it knows something I don't - that it's the catalyst for something really interesting. Oh and the weather game, is really really cool [http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061220.jpg]

I don't have a playstation 3, I'm not pretentious nor rich enough to afford one . My playstation 2 is the life of the party though, with its ridiculous wrestling games and four controllers.

My xbox is just my other gaming PC, for games that (in my opinion) work better on 'console'

 

[Autofaux]

I love how Nintendo reps piss on about innovation till the hookers come home, when the Wii was sporting six year old IR recognition tech when it came out. It's all "First!" nonsense. The 360 was also "First!" but then threw up all over itself and crept into the fetal position. The tech is never innovative, it's old and when it's implemented into consoles, it's like the second coming or something. EyeToy wasn't innovative, Natal *definitely* isn't innovative and Wii is mainstream nonsense in a box.

 

[Zer_]

Braid - XBLA / PSN
Castle Crashers - XBLA / PSN
Half-Life 2 episode 2 - PC Game
Fallout 3 - ...
Alien Hominid HD - Gamecube Game...
Portal - PC Game

Neither of these games are exclusives to their respective consoles...

 

[Gindil]

Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.

While there's a lot of potential, what concerns me is when there's a lot more shovelware on Nintendo's Wii than there are innovative games. The main one that really utilizes the Wii in a unique way are Super Mario Galaxy and No More Heroes. Almost everything outside of the Wii Sports games are really just a unique iteration of the control pad.

 

[LeonLethality]

Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.

While there's a lot of potential, what concerns me is when there's a lot more shovelware on Nintendo's Wii than there are innovative games. The main one that really utilizes the Wii in a unique way are Super Mario Galaxy and No More Heroes. Almost everything outside of the Wii Sports games are really just a unique iteration of the control pad.

Well Developers are getting creative with it (No more heroes) and I hope the success of those creative games will inspire others to do the same.

 

[heavencaller]

I am not a member of the Sony Defense Force, I am not a PS3 fanboy. I'm a Final Fantasy tard, get it right. And I do have plenty of issues with the endless amount of generic first person shooters that get cranked out on consoles, which I made a thread about not long ago that was roundly ignored for having too many words.

Wait a minute... didn't you JUST say that the PS3 and 360 are bringing all the good games to the market? In fact, yes, you did. Here's the quote right now:

And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.

Then you say that you're sick of all the generic shooters that are being turned out? News Flash: The large majority of popular games on the 360/PS3 are shooters. Gears of War? Borderlands? Modern Warfare? Halo? Mass Effect? Yeah sure they slip-in the occasional God of War for some variety, but then we have a whole other legion of clones for THAT style of gameplay. Not to mention that many of those are also available on the PC where they can be played with better controls, but let's not open-up THAT debate... the point is, they're available on yet another platform, leaving only a scant few titles that can actually be attributed to any given system.

The Wii might have a smaller library of (worthwhile) games, but at the same time it has a larger variety of types of games because it isn't just a bunch of FPS's and God of War clones. Your Marios play nothing like your Zeldas, then the occasional gem like No More Heroes comes along that can only be described by saying "Play it to find out" without going into a lengthy description of the game.

So does the Wii have fewer games? Perhaps. But where else are you going to GET the Wii's good games?*

*Edit: Okay okay, so they're working on bringing No More Heroes to the 360 (and I think PS3), but it's only been what? 2 years? Mind you that the Wii has the sequel now. Not to mention that to make it work with a regular controller, it'll probably lose a lot of what made it stand-out since the game makes heavy use of the motion control. It'll be a diluted experience, at best.

Sorry but mass effect is hardly a "generic shooter"

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

*snip*

Sorry but mass effect is hardly a "generic shooter"

And yet my point still stands. Bioware's games might stand out from the crowd as unique, but then you take a step back and realize that the biggest difference from one Bioware game to the next is setting. Which is nothing against them, I love Bioware's games, but my point is that all the good games that the 360/PS3 bring to the table are all the same, where good games on the Wii really stand out as being beyond description.

I mean hell, even Zelda, one of the oldest games out there and everyone knows how it plays, but at the same time you'd have a hard time giving a quick-and-easy description of how it plays to a new gamer without having to dramatically water it down. Meanwhile a good 360 game can be described as "It's kinda like Dragon Age, except the gameplay is closer to Gears of War".

 

[Zedzero]

Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.

Really after this many years? After all those failed attempt at games? With most critics complaining developers can't really get the right balance between wii remote "get up and move" attitude with a relaxed, calming sense of gaming? Seriously the wii WAS a good idea but a horrible exicution? I don't have a single friend you bought a Wii that still has it or that still plays it on occasion example once a month.

 

[LeonLethality]

Well we all knew Miyamoto really did pull all the strings, but I really hope the wii stays for at least three or four more years, I see a lot of potential in it.

Really after this many years? After all those failed attempt at games? With most critics complaining developers can't really get the right balance between wii remote "get up and move" attitude with a relaxed, calming sense of gaming? Seriously the wii WAS a good idea but a horrible exicution? I don't have a single friend you bought a Wii that still has it or that still plays it on occasion example once a month.

You and your friend's obviously haven't played No More Heroes and No More Heroes 2.

If developers decided to get creative with their games on the wii there is quite a lot it can do.

 

[Bilbo536]

Eh, we'll see. I've purchased every nintendo console (both home and hand held) on release day since the N64, but i think my wii has been gaining a little bit too much dust over the last couple of years. Nintendo will truly have to spark my interest for me to continue the tradition with their next console, unless they release a new handheld (not another DS) inbetween now and then; they always seem to preform well in my book.

Possibly a 3rd pikmin could do the job. but only if nintendo gets out of this realm of motion control. When people told me that i was dumb for buying a wii on release day, and that motion controls were going to be a short lived gimmick, i tried not to listen to them, but now i can't do anything but agree with those nay-sayers.

Actually, it's hardly a 'short lived gimick', seeing as how Microsoft and Sony are now scrambling to create their own versions of motion control.

 

[Craftybonds]

Eh, we'll see. I've purchased every nintendo console (both home and hand held) on release day since the N64, but i think my wii has been gaining a little bit too much dust over the last couple of years. Nintendo will truly have to spark my interest for me to continue the tradition with their next console, unless they release a new handheld (not another DS) inbetween now and then; they always seem to preform well in my book.

Possibly a 3rd pikmin could do the job. but only if nintendo gets out of this realm of motion control. When people told me that i was dumb for buying a wii on release day, and that motion controls were going to be a short lived gimmick, i tried not to listen to them, but now i can't do anything but agree with those nay-sayers.

Actually, it's hardly a 'short lived gimick', seeing as how Microsoft and Sony are now scrambling to create their own versions of motion control.

Fair enough, but that just makes it a "fad" instead of a "gimmick"

Give it time.

 

[Zer_]

I just hope they'll stop teaching their fanboys to stop hating high definition.

I swear I hear Nintendo fans every day saying how high definition is killing gaming is games with good graphics are instantly terrible.

:/

Uh what? Someone's a bit off-base here. Sure, a game doesn't have to be HD to be good, but HD often works for the games in enhancing the experience. The Wii's lack of HD does indeed hurt it to a point, but it does have some great titles regardless.

 

[William Dickbringer]

I just had this video going threough my head while reading this

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Just replace the angry yelling guy with Miyamoto and i find it funny.

Yeah, i dont see the point in getting a wii 2 if there is going to be one... since i cant really see how they could improve it much other than graphics, but i dont care about that.

hahaha I can see miyamoto in this and then there's regie and nintendo staff
but so far the only reason for me to get wii 2 is for no more heroes 3 but then again if I wait a few years it's bound to turn up on 360 (it'll depend on if heroes paradise gets released to america)